Chapter Discussion Why isn't Luffy using adCoC? Post your headcanon

#46
Oda is intentional dragging out the Chapters so he can land at Elbaf at Ch.1100
Luffy without Acoc is Admiral Tier
Luffy With Acoc is Yonko Tier
Kizaru taking 0 damage thus far is intentional
Luffy using all his stamina by using his more taxing forms will result in him reverting back to base form.
Fatigued* Luffy In Base using Acoc Reduces Kizaru HP from 100% to 0% in a single strike Emphasis there's the Massive Gap Between Yonko and Admiral Status Similar to Whitebeard vs Akainu

Imo* The second Luffy Uses Acoc Kizaru will be defeated similar to Luffy vs Bellamy
Kizaru Dashing around at Lightspeed reflecting off Surfaces going in for a finishing Blow only to be knocked unconscious by a King Pistol*
 
#50
If Oda actually reveals that Luffy and Zoro have been using CoC in all their fights in Egghead

I will laugh my ass off at him pretty much retconning AdCoC once he realised how overpowered it is

Just like how he retconned CoO, Enel's Priests are better CoO users than the majority of New World Vets, Boa's sisters too
 
#52
You said nothing , he used it there in his first attack towards Kizaru and got blocked and you are just ignoring it.
Luffy has yet to shown a definitive use of AdCoC outside of Wano. This is weird considering Luffy usually has no qualms about using his newly gained abilites the following arcs. Why has Luffy suddenly forgotten about the ability "Only a handful of the strongest" can use?
Nope, I clearly said it.

There's a reason why nobody looks at these panels and ask "is Luffy using AdCoC?"




Yet have spent weeks arguing the haki use for this one.




So yeah, definitive.
 
#53
I’ve decided to not care about haki anymore
I’m just goin to assume that veteran characters or above are always using some form of haki

if odas never gonna
be coherent about it
Than I’m not going to treat it like it’s a coherent power system
 
#55
Still coping eh ?
:myman:

Base, Gear 4 Snakeman, Gear 5 + Giant mode
Seems like Luffy is using everything in his arsenal

I actually hope he isn't using aCoC because the strongest Yonkou should be capable to push the weakest C3 Admiral out of non troll mode.
Luffy isn't the strongest Yonko, at this point the strongest Yonko is Shanks.
Kizaru isn't the weakest C3 Admiral (I assume you mean the original three)? He is probably the strongest, unless you assume he doesn't know haki.
 
#56
Nope, I clearly said it.

There's a reason why nobody looks at these panels and ask "is Luffy using AdCoC?"

...
Obviously there is a reason: is the same reason that brought tens of users to say that Kizaru would have been beaten in a single chapter, a thing that they would have never, ever said if there were an Emperor on PH.
 
#58
Because Loda isn't creative or smart enough to make the tension in his story believable, so alternatively he goes with the most laziest solution and make characters hold back regardless of whether or not the situation calls for it, even if it's out of character to do so. If an individual character starts doing it too consistently, consequently such actions become a character trait, even if unintentional by the author. This is why I prescribe Zoro as a guy that fights at the level of his opponents even if it dangers those he loves, making him a bonafide hypocrite.
 
#59
Luffy isn't the strongest Yonko, at this point the strongest Yonko is Shanks.
Kizaru isn't the weakest C3 Admiral (I assume you mean the original three)? He is probably the strongest, unless you assume he doesn't know haki.
Luffy is the man that defeated Kaido, the previous strongest Yonkou. Really have no evidence to say he's weaker than Shanks.

We know Kizaru is definitely below Akainu and between him and Kuzan it's a toss-up. Still think Kuzan was more impressive against Garp than Kizaru has been against Luffy rn.
 
#60
Luffy is the man that defeated Kaido, the previous strongest Yonkou. Really have no evidence to say he's weaker than Shanks.
Luffy and half an army. And I am not convinced Kaido was stronger than Shanks. Kaido himself said that "Haki rules all", and guess who is the only Yonko who uses Haki and nothing else?

We know Kizaru is definitely below Akainu and between him and Kuzan it's a toss-up. Still think Kuzan was more impressive against Garp than Kizaru has been against Luffy rn.
Based on what? As I said, the only way Kizaru will be weaker than the other two is if his Haki is crap. Which may well be the case, but I'd rather not assume that to be the case just yet.

And Kuzan is not significantly weaker than Akainu either.
 
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