General & Others Why isn't there as much a outrage from fans when nika power up appeared but with Enma and scienctifict power ups happened ppl lost it.

[mly90]

Also you'll have a tough time convincing anyone in the one piece community that Enma was nerfing Zoro even though it was instrumental in hurting Kaido.

Maybe insecure Luffytards who can't stand the fact Zoro has more impressive AP than Luffy despite possessing a mthical zoan god df. Normal readers i don't think are that blind to reality

Zoro Purgatory onigiri was 3 swordstyle move he was even holding back on using any haki to avoid the sword draining him

Hiryu Kaen was the only move Zoro used just Enma to perform even then that was his own haki nobody else

Sliced Kaido up with Tatsumaki using all 3 of his swords saving your mc from getting swallowed by Kaido lol

scarred Kaido again with all 3 swords using Ashura after he had already suffered enormous injuries from hakai

Why does Zoro keep relying on all 3 swords every time he damaged Kaido and not just use Enma if it was the only sword dealing actual damage. You guys suffer from extreme insecurities that's all, when Zoro outperforms your favs the mc included all you can do is cling to Enma for excuses really

 

[faker]

Because since Zoro got Enma, Zoro has become a hype tool for Enma and Oden. Kaido and BM have mentioned them many times on the roof. Even Zoro's COC is guided by Enma
As for Sanji, many people think the power of science is not worth mentioning

 

[draganax]

well at least it has nothing to do with the quality of the writing, because the current writing of one piece is mediocre at best.

luffy is expected to get a lot of special treatment, especially in the new world.
"plot armor, asspuls, deus ex machina, plot convenience" these are essential parts of luffy's character.
luffy is a character who: gets a lot of help, unlimited chances and power ups, and suffer no consequences. he is above the rules.

here's some scenarios that would be out of character for luffy:
-luffy wins without help
-luffy gets only one power up in a fight
-luffy suffer long term plot altering consequences

no one can complain about how luffy gets to fight multiple rounds against kaido, or how he got the power of telepathy, or how caribou was conveniently hanging out at tokage port carrying large amounts of food, or how shinobu can make people older instead of rotting them, or how momonosuke flew luffy to onigashima before he learned how eastern dragon fly, or how luffy's devil fruit got retconned from paramecia to mythical zoan...
when it comes to luffy people suspend their disbelieve for the sake of hype, but they never keep the same energy with the other characters.

non-MC characters:
they are not allowed to receive any kind of assistance
they are only granted a single power up
they don't get second chances.

that is why people react negatively when a non-MC character receives MC treatment:
-nami got zeus permanently fused with her climate tact despite big mom taking away his soul
-zoro gets temporarily healed with an asspull mink medicine
-law and kid asspulled awakening
-zoro tames enma and gets AdvCoC at the same time
-sanji conveniently awakens his genes at the right moment and gets increases strength, durability, regenerations at the same time

also i don't remember people raging over chopper getting monster point duration boost, but that's mainly because no one give a shit about chopper.

 

[Albino 👑]

Also personally hiyori giving enma away personally feels just like a huged missed opportunity imo
If hiyori was allowed to be just a really cool and strong swordsman able to master enma that would have been so cool. Instead she gave it to simeone who barely acknowledges her existence. Enma still seems to still have some weird connections to her like when it went crazy after she played odens favorite song and weirdly enough with denjiro kinda. With his transformation maybe having some sort of connection to the sword with enmas shrine being the place his face transformed. Possibly where the sword was forged idk

 

[Adamxero]

Zorocucks really out here saying Enma was a nerf when it was actually a tool for him to unlock CoC and AdvCoC.

I don't really remember people hating on Sanji power ups other than Zoro fans back in the day.

Enma allowed Zoro to going from being YC2 Level to slightly above YC 1 level.

 

[Albino 👑]

Zorocucks really out here saying Enma was a nerf when it was actually a tool for him to unlock CoC and AdvCoC.

I don't really remember people hating on Sanji power ups other than Zoro fans back in the day.

Enma allowed Zoro to going from being YC2 Level to slightly above YC 1 level.

The raid suit definitely and rightfully so had lots of criticism against it

 

[Adamxero]

The raid suit definitely and rightfully so had lots of criticism against it

As a Luffy fan it was alright to me.

Sanji needed his enhancement I'd have preferred haki improvements but at the time it seemed to do the job.

 

[Steven]

Enma carrys Zorro.

In fact,he got always carryd by his sword.Take them away and hes useless fodder

 

[Jailer]

Enma being a scientific power up with all the death king of hell hocus pocus uga bunga how do you call that scientific

 

[Franosuke]

Enma carrys Zorro.

In fact,he got always carryd by his sword.Take them away and hes useless fodder

Zoro gets carried by his swords the way that an artist gets carried by his paintbrush

Think on that

 

[Steven]

Zoro gets carried by his swords the way that an artist gets carried by his paintbrush

Think on that

An artist dont need a paintbrush.They can use other tools

 

[Albino 👑]

The raid suit, enma, and Zeus all ass power ups tbh
If we see nami doing anything outside of just do lighting attacks all the time i might slightly forgive zues. He needs to turn into different types of clouds

As a Luffy fan it was alright to me.

Sanji needed his enhancement I'd have preferred haki improvements but at the time it seemed to do the job.

Getting stronger doesn't matter if it at the cost of it shitting all over a characters core and what makes them them

Which is what the raid suit was doing to sanji and is why he refused to wear it against queen and why he destroyed it

 

[Franosuke]

An artist dont need a paintbrush.They can use other tools

An artist who specializes in painting will be better with a paintbrush even if they can use other tools

The same way Zoro is better with swords than with other tools

If you are trained in a certain area of expertise you will obviously be better in that field than in others

u can't say Zoro gets carried by his swords when his fighting style is swordsmanship, it's how he chooses to fight

If Luffy randomly switched to using swords instead of his DF then he would become weaker than Zoro because he has no clue how to use swords

 

[hayze moya]

enma isn't a powerup.

 

[IsaziSempi]

i dont think most people are thrilled with the nika powerup. but its pointless to fight against that. Thoughbatkeast Luffys transformation feels earned. Luffy has beaten 3 shichibukai, je's subordinated 2 shichibukai and fought more the ten shichibukai. he's interacted with all Yonkou past and present. fought cp9 and cp0 fought 2 yonkou commanders beaten 2 logias with no haki and smiked at death. Before this arc the most famous people Sanji and Zoro have beaten are Das bones and Bon clay.

at one point Zoro actually loss to buggy the clown. by this point Sanji and Zoro should have beaten a shichibukai each and beaten atleast like a famous impel down prisoner.

O dont care what anybody says Sanji and Zoro were easily weaker than doflamingo on dressrosa and some how jumped seversl levels to where Luffy was st the begining of WCI without the same struggle.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Because it's the least impressive power up of the 3.

 

[Finalbeta]

Enma carrys Zorro.

In fact,he got always carryd by his sword.Take them away and hes useless fodder

Why are you guys not accepting that Zoro's haki doesn't come from Enma?

What's taking you away from the truth?

 

[mly90]

Zorocucks really out here saying Enma was a nerf when it was actually a tool for him to unlock CoC and AdvCoC.

I don't really remember people hating on Sanji power ups other than Zoro fans back in the day.

Enma allowed Zoro to going from being YC2 Level to slightly above YC 1 level.

Zoro own coc awakening was his power up which he would have gotten regardless. In Alabasta he faced a wall that required him to learn how to cut steel to defeat mr 1 it’s like saying wado gave zoro the ability to cut steel if we go by the same retarded logic being spouted here. A sword is just a tool they don’t work like devil fruits lmao if you are insecure about Luffy sun god Nika fruit take it up with Oda lol. Zoro can deal more damage in 1 or 2 hits than thousand coc infused g5 mode attacks that must be what’s really hurting you guys .
Enma isn’t a supreme grade yet how will you guys cope when Zoro forges 3 black blades

 

[Malio]

Because the nonce brigade and their allies the condomtards get insecure about Zoro and his potential.
Putting everything as "enma gave him that power" is just Zoro tax

 

[mly90]

Because the nonce brigade and their allies the condomtards get insecure about Zoro and his potential.
Putting everything as "enma gave him that power" is just Zoro tax

It gets more embarrassing when you think about the amounts of power ups Luffy recieved against Kaido he is yet to replicate same damages as Zoro weakened Ashura. No wonder they have started worshiping Enma maybe he will finally catch up to Zoro with his new island sized punch let’s see