Powers & Abilities Why Mihawk is the second strongest character in One Piece.

[Sir Yasheen]

What is your reasoning of having mihawk over akainu?

I don’t see Akainu to being much stronger than the other admiral. He and Aokiji fought a ten day long extreme diff match. I don’t see Kizaru and the two new admirals weaker than Aokiji they all seem to be on the same level

As such if Mihawk can high diff one of them, he can high-extreme diff all of them

 

[Finalbeta]

Tbh i am a bit confused by the WSS title.
Do we include say, whitebeard in the category? Because he is fighting with a black blade.
If we don't include figures that fight with a sword but utilizes mainly on their DF, then there can be quite a few people stronger than WSS.
However, if we do include figures like WB to the discussion, then the analysis becomes even more confusing.
Mihawk himself clearly didn't view himself as equal to WB, given his remarks in marineford.

Yes Whitebeard was most likely a swordsman in that a possessor and user of a supreme grade sword, however, his WSM title also was most likely invalid during his sickness and we kinda experienced that in Marineford since he didn't perform quite well.

 

[Human D Luffy]

Yes Whitebeard was most likely a swordsman in that a possessor and user of a supreme grade sword, however, his WSM title also was most likely invalid during his sickness and we kinda experienced that in Marineford since he didn't perform quite well.

I have no issue of saying that mihawk >= old whitebeard.
My issue is that Oda used and scarificed mihawk to hype up old WB by having mihawk saying/implying that there is quite a distance between that man (WB) and the rest of us.
It's even more confusing taken in account that WB is also a swordsman.
If he hadn't said that, I would probably rank Mihawk higher.
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I don’t see Akainu to being much stronger than the other admiral. He and Aokiji fought a ten day long extreme diff match. I don’t see Kizaru and the two new admirals weaker than Aokiji they all seem to be on the same level

As such if Mihawk can high diff one of them, he can high-extreme diff all of them

Your list looks pretty solid, except i have akainu > mihawk due to akainu's MF feats.
You are right about Akainu had to extreme diff Aokji, and Mihawk might be able to accomplish such feat.
Nonetheless, due to lack of Mihawk's visible feats, I am giving akainu the benefit of the doubts.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I have no issue of saying that mihawk >= old whitebeard.
My issue is that Oda used and scarificed mihawk to hype up old WB by having mihawk saying/implying that there is quite a distance between that man (WB) and the rest of us.
It's even more confusing taken in account that WB is also a swordsman.
If he hadn't said that, I would probably rank Mihawk higher.
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Your list looks pretty solid, except i have akainu > mihawk due to akainu's MF feats.
You are right about Akainu had to extreme diff Aokji, and Mihawk might be able to accomplish such feat.
Nonetheless, due to lack of Mihawk's visible feats, I am giving akainu the benefit of the doubts.

Which is fair. I give it to mihawk because if akainu > mihawk id also put Fuji > Mihawk since I think they’re in the same level.

Which I do think there’s a good chance Oda will give Fuji Mihawks title, but for now I’ll give mihawk the benefit of the doubt

 

[Human D Luffy]

Which is fair. I give it to mihawk because if akainu > mihawk id also put Fuji > Mihawk since I think they’re in the same level.

Which I do think there’s a good chance Oda will give Fuji Mihawks title, but for now I’ll give mihawk the benefit of the doubt

Sometimes i get very confused with the WSS title. Technically BM is fighting with a sword.
Not sure what to make of it.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Sometimes i get very confused with the WSS title. Technically BM is fighting with a sword.
Not sure what to make of it.

We just don't know who Mihawk fought to get the title.

He claims he's weaker than Whitebeard (I agree) who is by all intents and purposes a "swordsman" if you use the "if you wield a sword you're a swordsman" logic.

The way I see it, Mihawk is the Strongest Swordsman he has fought and he travelled the world fighting swordsman, hence he became the World's Strongest Swordsman.

Does this mean he fought every swordsman in the world? no.

So discounting: Whitebeard who Mihawk claims is stronger than him, Shanks who we canonically know Mihawk hasn't fought in 12 years, and Big Mom who seemingly never fought Mihawk, I think it's fair to put Mihawk over all other swordsman unless it turns out he hasn't fought them

 

[Human D Luffy]

We just don't know who Mihawk fought to get the title.

He claims he's weaker than Whitebeard (I agree) who is by all intents and purposes a "swordsman" if you use the "if you wield a sword you're a swordsman" logic.

The way I see it, Mihawk is the Strongest Swordsman he has fought and he travelled the world fighting swordsman, hence he became the World's Strongest Swordsman.

Does this mean he fought every swordsman in the world? no.

So discounting: Whitebeard who Mihawk claims is stronger than him, Shanks who we canonically know Mihawk hasn't fought in 12 years, and Big Mom who seemingly never fought Mihawk, I think it's fair to put Mihawk over all other swordsman unless it turns out he hasn't fought them

Pretty much agree with everything you are saying.
The way I look at it. WB got the WSM title because he is capable of splitting fights with Roger, who was the strongest man at the time (most likely than not). I think most people would argee that Roger is universally considered the strongest man at one point, so drawing with the strongest man gives WB the same title. So it makes total sense that WB has his title.

Like you said, it is unknown who the person that mihawk fought that definitively gave him the WSS title. Evidence seems to point to shanks (when he had 2 hands), but that would imply that 2-hands shanks > Big mom (back then). Which to me doesn't seem to make much sense, because I doubt shanks > Big mom 20 years old. So why didn't mihawk have to fight BM to get his title? WB didn't have to fight anyone else but Roger because Roger at one point was definitively the strongest man.

If we were to compare the validity of these two titles, I would say that WB was definitively WSM at one point, after Roger's death and before he got sick and old. However, Mihawk's title seems less definitive and up for debate and argument.

 

[Red Admiral]

Right now: Shanks> Mihawk> BB.

I agree

Mihawk might be very well 2nd strongest , 2nd to God King Shanks

 

[King7]

How could we forget the king of feats Imu

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lol . yes Imu has no feats yet , but if we think of Imu as another Spandam or a Princess and exclude her from the list , it's still a bit hard for me to put Mihawk over Akainu and Dragon . i can accept him being stronger than Kaido though .

 

[OEKaneki]

Pfft. If Mihawk is in the top ten, it’s at ten. Every Yonko, Dragon, followed by all the admirals are stronger than him. The only admiral he may be stronger than is Fujitora.

 

[Finalbeta]

Mihawk > Kizaru also would fit properly if the WSS title was taken seriously and so the significance of a swordsman.

 

[m0nst3Rx]

Stop using wrong translations, there is no ''legends'' word in that SBS, and ZKK ain't happening despite the tons of help that Zoro got from Law and other people on the rooftop, includes even Oden's dead soul in Enma, so it must be suck to be a swordsman who got jobbed to Kaido like a fodder.

No surprise there Mihawk was indeed treated like some fodder when Vista soloed him and Jozu stopped his strongest attack without any damage.

Shanks proved his strength against the strongest. Jobber Mihawk did not.

While we know even Dressrosa Zoro is in WSS discussion according to Zoro novel, let alone Wano Zoro who can give high-diff to Lihawk.

Mihawk would get low-diffed by any Yonko, stop wanking it. Wano Zoro is very close to Mihawk and we see what happened to Zoro when he faced a Yonko, he got Thunder BagueED with ease, Mihawk would be the same, he is no Yonko level.

blocked hakai for even 1min, leaved a scar and shits these all zoros rooftop feats <<<<< Mihawk
mihawk will extrm diff kaido no doubt. even oden was going to so he didnt even had blackblade. mihawk mistakly cuted the shit out of tsunami that created by yonko+admiral with ez. he can spam the shit out of that Zoros missed shot bigmom yelled to dodge.

Shanks => Mihawk > kaido>>> Zoro

 

[BOCCHI]

On the top of my head I could name BB, Kaido and Akainu being stronger than Mihawk there could be more, but I’m forgetting let’s not mention the possibility of as strong of fighter/s Oda could introduce later on and current characters who could be stronger Dragon Kizaru/Aokiji or the captain of the new Rox pirates!! To make it short Mihawk is not the second strongest he might be in the top 5 or top 10 that’s all, but still doesn’t change the fact he is one of the strongest out there and can give a run for their money to the guys mentioned above.

 

[Finalbeta]

Mihawk standing above Shanks is what makes the most sense by a long shot to me. I elencated my eationale long ago, but I will repost it here;

In my opinion Mihawk's portrayal is paradoxically greater than Kaido's for a few reasons;

- IS his title, rather than being SAID to be.
- it features in the databooks which is decidedly a plus
- Zoro displayed to be most likely capable to give Kaido a run for his money if healthy, and that's thanks to his defensive and offensive outputs and yet he should logically most likely still stand rather below, possibly quite below, Mihawk. Kaido might be stronger than what he displayed so far, but if he truly has got to be defeated this arc, and it seems extremely likely, he might have gone all out / almost.

The premise is that right now who is stronger between Kaido and Shanks remains very debatable judging off the Big Mom - Kaido pattern either. Meanwhile we have quite more certainty at our disposal about Mihawk.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Dragon might have potential to be in top 3 but I wouldn't count him just yet.

 

[Zowo]

top 1

 

[Finalbeta]

Dragon might have potential to be in top 3 but I wouldn't count him just yet.

Bounty wise he is the best so far introduced , of course usually not a compelling power level indicator. I would be disappointed if he wasn't at least on low admiral level nevertheless.