General & Others Why Oda has Zero consideration to his adult fandom?

#41
It's target demographic is literally teenagers. Doesn't "shounen" translate to "young person" i.e. teenager?

I don't think you can blame a bloke for sticking to his target demographic...
The problem is that younger guys these days con't start reading OP anymore.

Hard reality.

Really any poll shows that less than 10% of the current OP readers are under 18!

That's when you as author should at least consider changing the targeted age group.
 
#42
Part of that bad writing is him not making Luffy grow up he’s not allowed to because of the target age. I’m really interested about politics and I like to think about One pieces’ throne games in a political way but I can’t imagine a world leader with Luffy’s personality who keeps screaming like an idiot all the time. Even the dumbest dictators in the ME and Africa don’t do this:gokulaugh:

Heck even our Hemedti is smarter than this clown
Good thing the story was never about luffy becoming a leader of the world luffy has never been apart world politics or care, I can't really take you serious any more if this how you see one piece,luffy does whatever he wants and the world reacts to the impact of luffy actions.
 

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#43
I have no problems with that statement because if pretime skip was still targeted for 15 year olds than that means I like manga content that is supposedly targeted for 15 year olds. That didn't sound right but you guys know what I mean lol. The age targets don't bother me, the bad writing is what bothers me.
Wano had panels showcasing old women about to commit suicide, murder of people through ethnic cleansing with the Kurozumi. Orochi burning to death. The story is mature, the writing is just strained because Oda is trying to do so much at once.

Of course a manga sold to teenage boys is going to cater to teenage boys. What, do you want them to put giant robots in Soap Operas?

It's a pirate manga about a kid whose dick can stretch and who asked a skeleton to join his crew without knowing anything about him. Just because Oda isn't writing the manga the way you want him to doesn't mean he isn't taking it seriously.

The dude has spent 20+ years of his life making this series into what it is. Why the fuck should he care what I want?

99% percent of One Piece fans will never know this site exists nor care about it, why in the fuck should Oda listen to us? You can read this manga for free online. No one is taking anything away from you.

If it pisses you off that much, drop it and do something else. There are a shit ton of great series out there that you can also watch/read for free (depending on your views on piracy, in some cases). Oda's NOT going to change at this point, no matter how much we complain.

I hope you find another series you like, and that One Piece's pacing and writing get better. Also, honestly... how many "adults" on WorstGen act like mature adults?
:gonope:
We're grown ass fools attacking each other over fictional numbers on bounty posters and which fictional characters are going to sail on a pirate ship. There's a reason my avatar is a clown, yo. Even if 1057 pissed me off, fuck staying mad about it.
 
#44
So Oda and shueisha just want news readers with kids and think the oldest readers will keep follow them since they already liked the manga.

No wonder why op sales are shit since kids nowadays will definitely go for more action packed like (demon slayer, jjk, etc.) without dumbs flaws so can't expect them to become loyal.
And since the old readers are completely ignored then they give the middle fingers and don't buy anything.

Perfect marketing strategy! :milaugh:
 
#45
No. I mean don't use puns and jokes to brush off adult problems clearly illustrated in the story. I don't want or need OP to be pirate Berserk.

Adult writing =/= Adult content
Exactly I still don’t like the hiyori line regarding the Kurozumi despite the clarification from the official translation. It just doesn’t sit right with me and this is why Oda has fallen from grace, he is disrespectful towards the intelligence of his audience and also is ready to sacrifice the quality of his work for stupid puns, jokes, wordplay and to match certain chapter numbers. Like the guy is a literal retard, and because Japanese ppl enjoy such low quality bullshit they won’t complain and our complaining won’t even reach him
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Sick of people wanting one piece to be edge piece. Fuck off to another manga already if you dislike the series so much holy shit
Nobody asked for an edgy story, Oda’s obsession with stupid puns and matching certain chapter numbers and introducing so many side-plots and then giving them half-assed resolution needs to end
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Obviously cause it's what shonnen is supposed to do

It wasn't Oda who got older...
It's us who were kids got older

Oda started this manga as an adult anyway... so when he targeted his audience... he could have already targeted adults with same age taste

But he targeted 15 yrs old people... thus later on as we grow up... we see start to say "In New World.. things should be more serious with more consequences" cause our mindset as adults started to want that type of entertainment while for Oda he simply stuck with aim at beginning

If ANYTHING... he made sure to make one of the biggest fights "Kaido fight" turn into toony joke so that the whole audience of "we want more serious consequences/Death/ruthless" stuff type of audience to give up on that

Cause if Luffy's final form as joyboy is toony... and a freaking Yonko was used as a jump robe... then don't fucking ever bring up those topic ever again...
But those who were 15 at the time are 30+ now and the modern day 15 years old don’t give a fuck about One piece and are playing dumb MMO’s instead
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Good thing the story was never about luffy becoming a leader of the world luffy has never been apart world politics or care, I can't really take you serious any more if this how you see one piece,luffy does whatever he wants and the world reacts to the impact of luffy actions.
That’s the thing, Luffy doesn’t want to become a world leader nor is he wanting to grow up to assume such a role but he’s failing his way towards this position anyways because he says some “influential”(loool) lines and beats people up, imagine if I was as dumb as Luffy and made Ukrain and some other east European countries my territory because I beat Putin in a fist fight but I’m a dumbass who can’t even understand the geographical importance of Ukraine, as well as other demographics and circumstances surrounding the area. Or the same just applied elsewhere in the world
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Good thing the story was never about luffy becoming a leader of the world luffy has never been apart world politics or care, I can't really take you serious any more if this how you see one piece,luffy does whatever he wants and the world reacts to the impact of luffy actions.
That’s not how the world roles, if I go by One pieces’ values then I should be able to do whatever the fuck I want to do without regards to those around me and start wrecking people who I think are bad
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So Oda and shueisha just want news readers with kids and think the oldest readers will keep follow them since they already liked the manga.

No wonder why op sales are shit since kids nowadays will definitely go for more action packed like (demon slayer, jjk, etc.) without dumbs flaws so can't expect them to become loyal.
And since the old readers are completely ignored then they give the middle fingers and don't buy anything.

Perfect marketing strategy! :milaugh:
JJK, and demon slayer are 💯 better than One piece but AOT is overrated
 
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#46
People are really complaining how a manga about a rubber (god) pirate with a talking reindeer and speedo wearing cyborg on his crew isn't mature enough...Yeah, ok.

You sure you know the essence of One Piece?
 
#47
Wano had panels showcasing old women about to commit suicide, murder of people through ethnic cleansing with the Kurozumi. Orochi burning to death. The story is mature, the writing is just strained because Oda is trying to do so much at once.

Of course a manga sold to teenage boys is going to cater to teenage boys. What, do you want them to put giant robots in Soap Operas?

It's a pirate manga about a kid whose dick can stretch and who asked a skeleton to join his crew without knowing anything about him. Just because Oda isn't writing the manga the way you want him to doesn't mean he isn't taking it seriously.

The dude has spent 20+ years of his life making this series into what it is. Why the fuck should he care what I want?

99% percent of One Piece fans will never know this site exists nor care about it, why in the fuck should Oda listen to us? You can read this manga for free online. No one is taking anything away from you.

If it pisses you off that much, drop it and do something else. There are a shit ton of great series out there that you can also watch/read for free (depending on your views on piracy, in some cases). Oda's NOT going to change at this point, no matter how much we complain.

I hope you find another series you like, and that One Piece's pacing and writing get better. Also, honestly... how many "adults" on WorstGen act like mature adults?
:gonope:
We're grown ass fools attacking each other over fictional numbers on bounty posters and which fictional characters are going to sail on a pirate ship. There's a reason my avatar is a clown, yo. Even if 1057 pissed me off, fuck staying mad about it.
Dude don't @ again me with this crap again. Idgaf that you think Oda is a hard worker. Congrats for Oda for being a hard worker, like literally the other hundreds of million of people on the planet.
 
#49
Personally the lesson I learned from One piece is that if someone hurt or wronged me or any of my friends I should just go wreck shit even if that person is an authority as long as I’m strong enough to do these things without the worry of facing consequences
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Oda still keeps his style but you are getting older so you start to lose your interest :cheers:
He doesn’t; the quality of the story has gone down, because Oda is sacrificing quality for quantity, stupid puns and humorless jokes
 
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