Character Discussion Why Sanji fans are in denial that if Zoro is Ray's parallel, he'll be a VC as well

[Sir Yasheen]

So we consider that Zoro being the VC is an unspoken hierarchy too, right?

Once the straw hats treat him as such yeah. Until then it’s outside individuals looking in. But if Usopp Nami or literally any SH says Zoros the VC yeah 100%

 

[Boiroy]

rayleigh is a first mate
zoro isnt
pretty important distinction

No one calls gaban a cook because sanji is
They are alike not the same.

you do realized that first mate means VC
you denied that too earlier

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Yes but what do you think number twos means in that case

2nd strongest

 

[Julius]

Vice captain is a synonym for first mate
it was literally stated that Gaban stood shoulder to shoulder with vice captain Rayleigh in his introduction

how can you forgot that?

And when we bring the Vice Captain aspect to the reality of the SH crew, it simply doesn't fit

Add the Left Arm title and it becomes clear they are simply two sides of the same coin

During flashbacks of Roger's crew, we see Gaban seemingly taking lead of situations or even speaking to Roger like they were in the same ballpark or were somehow comparable, why is that the case?

 

[Boiroy]

2nd strongest

but wings mean equals
you just stated few replies back

 

[Rivaille]

Symbolism is not hierarchy.
Zoro will never be the vice-captain

Symbolism is not strenght either. This does not stop people to use it as a proof of equality.

So either symbolism is strength AND hierarchy or it is neither.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

you do realized that first mate means VC
you denied that too earlier

I know what a first mate is buddy
I just forgot it was ray's official role in the crew

its not zoro's
Thats the difference.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Symbolism is not strenght either. This does not stop people to use it as a proof of equality.

So either symbolism is strength AND hierarchy or it is neither.

Except wings are not the only reason people say they are relative

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

but wings mean equals
you just stated few replies back

in importance
do you read?

 

[style]

And when we bring the Vice Captain aspect to the reality of the SH crew, it simply doesn't fit

Add the Left Arm title and it becomes clear they are simply two sides of the same coin

I was talking about Ray and Gaban, not Mugi
Yes but even a coin has a main side tho

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

2nd strongest

Iirc Oda said it wasn't about strength for all of them but maybe

 

[Rivaille]

rayleigh is a first mate
zoro isnt
pretty important distinction

No one calls gaban a cook because sanji is
They are alike not the same.

A lot of people seems to think that Sanji will be a carbon copy of Gaban and i agree they are not. Therefore the relationship between Rayleigh and Gaban is not the relationship between Zoro and Sanji.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

either you accept zoro and sanji are both the VCs or straw hats indeed don't have hierarchy

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Iirc Oda said it wasn't about strength for all of them but maybe

I dont recall that but if am wrong please post

 

[Sir Yasheen]

either you accept zoro and sanji are both the VCs or straw hats indeed don't have hierarchy

You just know if Zoro led the crew as captain like Sanji did they’d be calling it VC confirmation.

 

[Rivaille]

Except wings are not the only reason people say they are relative

And Symbolism is not the only reason why people say that Zoro is the Vice-captain.

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

You just know if Zoro led the crew as captain like Sanji did they’d be calling it VC confirmation.

Mosshead Pirates soon

 

[Boiroy]

in importance
do you read?

Why do you give hope to sanji fans n take it away
🥺🥺🥺

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

A lot of people seems to think that Sanji will be a carbon copy of Gaban and i agree they are not. Therefore the relationship between Rayleigh and Gaban is not the relationship between Zoro and Sanji.

gaban uses an axe
sanji doesnt
big difference right there
its a similar dynamic but thats it.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Mosshead Pirates soon

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