General & Others Why Sanji is FM now and how it was foreshadowed long ago

[bennbeckman]

Bro, reread WCI



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Got captured by Bege, Fought his dad and lost, missed that part too. Overall this is a stupid sacrifice, that only resulted in BM coming to Wano and teaming up with Kaido.

 

[Fel1x]

You think katakuri can do it if he fear big mom

Katakuri so far is most competent FM
he literally became successful Captain when BM gone wild in WCI. too bad he met Luffy and his plot shield

 

[Roronoa-sama]

Katakuri so far is most competent FM
he literally became successful Captain when BM gone wild in WCI. too bad he met Luffy and his plot shield

Perospero doesn't agree

 

[bennbeckman]

I can defintely see Oda trolling the Z fans tbh. The Z fans that were all high mighty. Their biggest arguments in the day was:

- Zoro has bigger bounty....thus better potrayal. This argument about bounty potrayal has gone extinct now. Why ? Because Sanji has the higher bounty.

- Zoro doesnt take Ls. Thankfully, Hawkins, Apoo, Carrot and Kamazou concur this point for us. Now majority of the fanbase can see that Zoro can take Ls. Also funny that Lanji has died down...when Zoro has been taking more Ls.

- Zoro's opponents are more stronger...King vs Sanji and Zoro vs Queen is the final act that will destroy all three of these things.


Wano will be a histroic arc, in which the Zoro fans who made fun of Sanji in WCI....will have their own fav been shown as inferior than the person they used to scorn.

Truly ironic and beautiful.

Bounty raise: Due to being a vinsmoke and not his efforts in WCi

This is like saying Usopp was stronger than Sanji after Dressrosa because he had a higher bounty

Zoro has gotten damaged and been naive, but hasnt "lost" a fight, so now Zoro automatically loses a fight as soon as he gets damaged

Sanji has had 1 skirmish (2 if you count them all kicking those guardians) this whole war so far which has been 14-15 chapters.

And now Sanji has 3 panels with Luffy which makes him superior to Zoro become a foregone conclusion

This is the point where the underdog (sanji) has a lead and a hope that he'll have better feats than Zoro come the end of the war (but THE PEOPLE) i.e (the not super hardcore zoro or sanji fans) will know who comes out on top

 

[Fel1x]

Perospero doesn't agree

actually he agrees. If Katakuri was with BM instaed of Perospero in the beginning of Wano, their ship won't be sinked

 

[Chrono]

Bounty raise: Due to being a vinsmoke and not his efforts in WCi

This is like saying Usopp was stronger than Sanji after Dressrosa because he had a higher bounty

Zoro has gotten damaged and been naive, but hasnt "lost" a fight, so now Zoro automatically loses a fight as soon as he gets damaged

Sanji has had 1 skirmish (2 if you count them all kicking those guardians) this whole war so far which has been 14-15 chapters.

And now Sanji has 3 panels with Luffy which makes him superior to Zoro become a foregone conclusion

This is the point where the underdog (sanji) has a lead and a hope that he'll have better feats than Zoro come the end of the war (but THE PEOPLE) i.e (the not super hardcore zoro or sanji fans) will know who comes out on top

Bounty is for potrayal. People used to argue that Usopp himself was pptrayed above Sanji. However its obvious Usopp is a literal fodder. So that argumemt is dead.

However bounty potrayal argument was prettt damn prevalent. Not as a feat of strength....but as a slight showing that Zoro was percieved as more of a threat. And that added to his potrayal.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

actually he agrees. If Katakuri was with BM instaed of Perospero in the beginning of Wano, their ship won't be sinked

Big Mom would not let him and morever katakuri couldn't fly

 

[Fel1x]

Bounty is for potrayal. People used to argue that Usopp himself was pptrayed above Sanji. However its obvious Usopp is a literal fodder. So that argumemt is dead.

However bounty potrayal argument was prettt damn prevalent. Not as a feat of strength....but as a slight showing that Zoro was percieved as more of a threat. And that added to his potrayal.

double standards. when Zoro had higher bounty, his fans used it as one of the main arguments. now they say bounty doesn't matter

yes, it doesn't matter, but being hypocrite isn't good

Big Mom would not let him and morever katakuri couldn't fly

he has FS, he would know King would attack and stop his attack with mochi

 

[bennbeckman]

Bounty is for potrayal. People used to argue that Usopp himself was pptrayed above Sanji. However its obvious Usopp is a literal fodder. So that argumemt is dead.

However bounty potrayal argument was prettt damn prevalent. Not as a feat of strength....but as a slight showing that Zoro was percieved as more of a threat. And that added to his potrayal.

Other... not me, never once thought Usopp was ever potrayed above Sanji

Bounty = Strength and Notoreity, Im also sure the Marines would have mentioned him alongside Luffy after WCI as well but they didnt

Obviously Zoro's bounty stayed the same because he stayed in Wano

 

[Chaves]

Got captured by Bege, Fought his dad and lost, missed that part too. Overall this is a stupid sacrifice, that only resulted in BM coming to Wano and teaming up with Kaido.

It doesn't matter if it was a stupid sacrifice. All of Sanji's actions were in order to save / protect someone; He did not abandon the crew of his own free will.
Just as Zoro had his reasons for trying to kill Luffy

 

[bennbeckman]

double standards. when Zoro had higher bounty, his fans used it as one of the main arguments. now they say bounty doesn't matter

yes, it doesn't matter, but being hypocrite isn't good



he has FS, he would know King would attack and stop his attack with mochi

Double standards are when both fanbases jump to and make up conclusions and headcanon based of a couple panels and then say that's how Oda wrote it LOL

 

[Chrono]

Other... not me, never once thought Usopp was ever potrayed above Sanji

Bounty = Strength and Notoreity, Im also sure the Marines would have mentioned him alongside Luffy after WCI as well but they didnt

Obviously Zoro's bounty stayed the same because he stayed in Wano

Ive never mentioned you tho. Im talking about the Zoro fans of the past. The Zoro fans of Oro Jackson.

The idea is dead right now....because Sanji has the higher bounty.

 

[bennbeckman]

It doesn't matter if it was a stupid sacrifice. All of Sanji's actions were in order to save / protect someone; He did not abandon the crew of his own free will.
Just as Zoro had his reasons for trying to kill Luffy

Could have said Ill be back I need to go take care of a problem, which is the route they should have chosen, but in regards to our debate the route chosen was I'm leaving the crew. Which other people have also left the crew... hmm... idk Nami, Usopp.

Do you just choose to selectively not add the part where Luffy wanted to Kill Zoro? Asking for @HA001 and myself

 

[Roronoa-sama]

double standards. when Zoro had higher bounty, his fans used it as one of the main arguments. now they say bounty doesn't matter

yes, it doesn't matter, but being hypocrite isn't good



he has FS, he would know King would attack and stop his attack with mochi

King is more speed than katakuri he easy could trap sanji

 

[HA001]

double standards. when Zoro had higher bounty, his fans used it as one of the main arguments. now they say bounty doesn't matter

yes, it doesn't matter, but being hypocrite isn't good



he has FS, he would know King would attack and stop his attack with mochi

So were you sanji fans saying ussop > sanji up until the end of wci ? When it was 200 > 177
And you dare talk about double standards lmfao
And this is without getting into sanjis bounty on his own merit is still 77 mil
The increases post skip have been attributed
To luffy judge and germa infamy.

 

[bennbeckman]

Ive never mentioned you tho. Im talking about the Zoro fans of the past. The Zoro fans of Oro Jackson.

The idea is dead right now....because Sanji has the higher bounty.

I was on the tail end of OJ, fun stuff LOL

Now Jimbei has the second highest bounty, but I do think both Sanji and Zoro are stronger than him

 

[sanjikun]

First Mates dont abondon their crew

Also no one ever once referred to Sanji as the first mate, second in command, vice captain
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Are you using this to hype up Sanji, he literally got Neg Diffed by Doflamingo the next chapter.

Sanji got neg diffed by Doffy himself. Zoro got neg diffed by birdcage

 

[bennbeckman]

Sanji got neg diffed by Doffy himself. Zoro got neg diffed by birdcage

Such beautiful conjecture

 

[Orojackson Refugee]

Sanji got neg diffed by Doffy himself. Zoro got neg diffed by birdcage

doffy had to use birdcage against zoro, while doffy fodderized sanji with his casual attack

 

[BangOO🍅]

slandering Luffy for pushing Zoro agenda. thats wild