Questions & Mysteries Why Sanji vs P1 was off-panelled
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You can’t post any proof of page one being defeated ! If any flying six was defeated it would be a major deal in wano . Stop making shit up. Sanji never beat page one . He failed to take him out of commission like he promised . Sanji lost that fig he . Couldn’t even draw blood from a flying 6 with his raid suit powerup. G3 luffy made page one bleed and chopper made full zoan calamity bleed
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No he didn’t
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No he didn’t
Page one goal was not to destroy the town . He destroyed the town so that Sanji will reveal himself .
Where did he go for 2 weeks ? Back to onigishima after Sanji ran away because he couldn’t do any damage .
Drake was angry? Drake could have said you defeated page one but Oda didn’t draw that happening buddy.
Why wasn’t Sanji worried about the town ? Who knows or cares that better not be what you’re basing your arguments on.
Sanji is the only character in this manga that gets handed random Ws. He never said he beat page one . Page one never mentioned being defeated . Drake never said page one was defeated . No one in wano ever said page one was defeated . Sanji fans somehow end up believing page one was defeated . What the hell?
Where did he go for 2 weeks ? Back to onigishima after Sanji ran away because he couldn’t do any damage .
Drake was angry? Drake could have said you defeated page one but Oda didn’t draw that happening buddy.
Why wasn’t Sanji worried about the town ? Who knows or cares that better not be what you’re basing your arguments on.
Sanji is the only character in this manga that gets handed random Ws. He never said he beat page one . Page one never mentioned being defeated . Drake never said page one was defeated . No one in wano ever said page one was defeated . Sanji fans somehow end up believing page one was defeated . What the hell?
- His goal is to capture Sanji. If Sanji runs away, then logically he should carry on destroying the town so Sanji shows up again
- Again his goal is to capture Sanji. Why would he leave his job for no reason. You cannot act like he doesnt find it important. He finds it more important than Drake does....
Yet P1 leaves and doesnt care anymore....and Drake is infuriated at Sanji ? Yeah doesnt add up buddy.
- You still have no asnwer to why Drake was angry.
- Again another no answer.
So you could only answer 2 of them, with shitty logic. Do you see how you have to use shitty logic to explain why Sanji ran away. If Sanji did actually run away, Oda would keep P1 on the team to pursue Sanji. Sanji and Law would be worried about what P1 has done. Drake wouldnt be as angry. See how Sanji hate has you grasping at straws....and it's pathetic.
- Again his goal is to capture Sanji. Why would he leave his job for no reason. You cannot act like he doesnt find it important. He finds it more important than Drake does....
Yet P1 leaves and doesnt care anymore....and Drake is infuriated at Sanji ? Yeah doesnt add up buddy.
- You still have no asnwer to why Drake was angry.
- Again another no answer.
So you could only answer 2 of them, with shitty logic. Do you see how you have to use shitty logic to explain why Sanji ran away. If Sanji did actually run away, Oda would keep P1 on the team to pursue Sanji. Sanji and Law would be worried about what P1 has done. Drake wouldnt be as angry. See how Sanji hate has you grasping at straws....and it's pathetic.
To be honest i think Oda initially intended for Page One to be defeated for good after his encounter with Sanji, and that's why he wrote the dialogue about reducing their numbers and stuff.
I imagine at the time he didn't quite settle on the current dynamic of the F6 and how the SH's match-ups will look like.
For example i could see an earlier take on this being that Page One's sister is Black Maria, and she has a grudge because her brother was defeated by Sanji and that's what leads to a different take on the interaction we got between Black Maria and Sanji this arc.
But he eventually decided on the Ulti/Page One siblings dynamic and them as future opponents of Nami and Usopp, so he brought Page One back into the picture.
I imagine at the time he didn't quite settle on the current dynamic of the F6 and how the SH's match-ups will look like.
For example i could see an earlier take on this being that Page One's sister is Black Maria, and she has a grudge because her brother was defeated by Sanji and that's what leads to a different take on the interaction we got between Black Maria and Sanji this arc.
But he eventually decided on the Ulti/Page One siblings dynamic and them as future opponents of Nami and Usopp, so he brought Page One back into the picture.
Nah I think he decided mid fight that P1 would be Usopp's opponent. Or tbh even before the fight started. The fight was truly to show off the RS. It wasnt to take P1 out of the pic. I wish he never made Sanji say that he will weaken Kaido's forces then. Still though it's not like Sanji knew anything about Zoan recovery rate.....
I think that was his initial intention because that line is not addressed in any way afterwards.
If it was meant to be written as something that Sanji fails to achieve, that would be brought up at least once with some comment made on it, but Oda just swept it under the rug and ignored it going forward as if it did not exist, since it's not really meant to follow into the new way he decided to handle Page One going forward.
If it was meant to be written as something that Sanji fails to achieve, that would be brought up at least once with some comment made on it, but Oda just swept it under the rug and ignored it going forward as if it did not exist, since it's not really meant to follow into the new way he decided to handle Page One going forward.
- His goal is to capture Sanji. If Sanji runs away, then logically he should carry on destroying the town so Sanji shows up again
- Again his goal is to capture Sanji. Why would he leave his job for no reason. You cannot act like he doesnt find it important. He finds it more important than Drake does....
Yet P1 leaves and doesnt care anymore....and Drake is infuriated at Sanji ? Yeah doesnt add up buddy.
- You still have no asnwer to why Drake was angry.
- Again another no answer.
So you could only answer 2 of them, with shitty logic. Do you see how you have to use shitty logic to explain why Sanji ran away. If Sanji did actually run away, Oda would keep P1 on the team to pursue Sanji. Sanji and Law would be worried about what P1 has done. Drake wouldnt be as angry. See how Sanji hate has you grasping at straws....and it's pathetic.
- Again his goal is to capture Sanji. Why would he leave his job for no reason. You cannot act like he doesnt find it important. He finds it more important than Drake does....
Yet P1 leaves and doesnt care anymore....and Drake is infuriated at Sanji ? Yeah doesnt add up buddy.
- You still have no asnwer to why Drake was angry.
- Again another no answer.
So you could only answer 2 of them, with shitty logic. Do you see how you have to use shitty logic to explain why Sanji ran away. If Sanji did actually run away, Oda would keep P1 on the team to pursue Sanji. Sanji and Law would be worried about what P1 has done. Drake wouldnt be as angry. See how Sanji hate has you grasping at straws....and it's pathetic.
I literally gave you 5 Evidences that you couldnt answer. What more do you want lmao.
No one saw P1's defeat because the entire town evacuated
As you can see here the citizens running away
Only Hawkins and Drake knowing the final result. And their many reasons they wouldnt want P1's defeat to be on the news.
No one saw P1's defeat because the entire town evacuated
As you can see here the citizens running away
Only Hawkins and Drake knowing the final result. And their many reasons they wouldnt want P1's defeat to be on the news.
If Page One was one shotted by Sanji with only the raid suit, that would put Sanji comfortably at third second yonko commander already and there would be no challenge for his real fight against Queen.
If Page One wasn't defeated but was getting overwhelmed, this would put Sanji at fourth yonko commander or in that ballpark more or less.
If Page One wasn't defeated but was getting overwhelmed, this would put Sanji at fourth yonko commander or in that ballpark more or less.
People can say dumb things such as Sanji ran away or what not. Dumb things that only began after the Toei version of Sanji vs P1 happened. But logically speaking, we know P1 got defeated.
- P1 stated he will destroy the town -> After the fight....no town destroyed
- P1 in the team looking for Sanji -> After the fight....mysteriously disappears for 2 weeks
- Drake nonchantly looking for Sangoro -> After the fight.....Drake pissed at Sangoro
- Sanji worried for the town -> After the fight.....Sanji not worried at all
- Law trusted Sanji to handle P1, so they dont worry about people coming after them - After the fight....Law not worried at all
It's blatantly obvious P1 was defeated. Whether he was two-shotted or was defeated with more attacks is besides the point. Theres no way Sanji would leave him to destroy the town. Theirs no way P1 would just leave Sanji alone after getting beaten up. Theres no way Sanji and Law wouldnt be worried....if P1 was not defeated.
Now....why did Oda off-panel it ? Simply because it would make P1's opponent look bad. In this case...Usopp.
Usually when villains are defeated....they begin to look like scrubs after that. Here are a few examples:
Narratively, Oda doesnt want Usopp to fight Sanji's leftovers. Yes....we know Sanji is far stronger than Usopp. But RS Sanji would logically beat the crap outta him. Whether it was a 2-shot or not, P1 would've gotten rag dolled and toyed with. Having him then fight Usopp....whilst new people, who havent been dehyped fight other SHs....just wouldnt be fair to Usopp. Oda off-panelled it for that specifc reason.
It maybe later revealed that Sanji defeated P1. But I don't think Oda will ever show Sanji defeating P1.
- P1 stated he will destroy the town -> After the fight....no town destroyed
- P1 in the team looking for Sanji -> After the fight....mysteriously disappears for 2 weeks
- Drake nonchantly looking for Sangoro -> After the fight.....Drake pissed at Sangoro
- Sanji worried for the town -> After the fight.....Sanji not worried at all
- Law trusted Sanji to handle P1, so they dont worry about people coming after them - After the fight....Law not worried at all
It's blatantly obvious P1 was defeated. Whether he was two-shotted or was defeated with more attacks is besides the point. Theres no way Sanji would leave him to destroy the town. Theirs no way P1 would just leave Sanji alone after getting beaten up. Theres no way Sanji and Law wouldnt be worried....if P1 was not defeated.
Now....why did Oda off-panel it ? Simply because it would make P1's opponent look bad. In this case...Usopp.
Usually when villains are defeated....they begin to look like scrubs after that. Here are a few examples:
Narratively, Oda doesnt want Usopp to fight Sanji's leftovers. Yes....we know Sanji is far stronger than Usopp. But RS Sanji would logically beat the crap outta him. Whether it was a 2-shot or not, P1 would've gotten rag dolled and toyed with. Having him then fight Usopp....whilst new people, who havent been dehyped fight other SHs....just wouldnt be fair to Usopp. Oda off-panelled it for that specifc reason.
It maybe later revealed that Sanji defeated P1. But I don't think Oda will ever show Sanji defeating P1.
I literally gave you 5 Evidences that you couldnt answer. What more do you want lmao.
No one saw P1's defeat because the entire town evacuated
As you can see here the citizens running away
Only Hawkins and Drake knowing the final result. And their many reasons they wouldnt want P1's defeat to be on the news.
No one saw P1's defeat because the entire town evacuated
As you can see here the citizens running away
Only Hawkins and Drake knowing the final result. And their many reasons they wouldnt want P1's defeat to be on the news.