Break Week Why the Sanji downplay is stupid and pathetic!!!

WB was to have a family and Akainu absolute justice plus it's not the dream it's the fact that Sanji was so willing to give it up and it was played as a gag
And Kizaru and Co? World strongest stoner?

And a gag is a gag. Even Zoro was willingly to give it up for Luffy... But hey if Zoro does it it's all cool and if Sanji does the same even for Zoro it's weak shit.

Do not get me wrong. Zoro is and will be stronger. But saying Sanji can never hang around with them cuz of his dream is bullshit as we have seen with no strongest x dream of top tiers where we have no clue what dream they have.
 
Luffy/Zoro/Sanji are not the most prominent grouping at all. They haven’t even had any moments since FMI.
lmfao, M3 is literally the "grouping of characters" more worked and placed on panels throughout the manga, you are shamelessly trying to delegitimize something that Oda insisted on working for several years.

In fact, the last time M3 was grouped, it was in PH when it was revealed that both 3 have CoA and CoO. In the following arches they separated so it was not possible to do so, but it returned twice in onigashima.


But Luffy/Zoro has a much more prominent portrayal than Luffy/Zoro/Sanji.
Totally false, M3, Zoro/Sanji, Luffy/Zoro, Luffy/Sanji are dynamics done over and over again throughout history, and I doubt that Luffy / Zoro is the biggest one, if you're so sure, you should try to prove it over there.

I can agree that Zoro is closest to Luffy in terms of affinity (although not by much), Luffy and Sanji had their extremely deep relationship at WCI and had several moments of incredible tuning between them, and we also have several times that Luffy and Sanji formed duos throughout history, even a few chapters ago when Sanji tried to lead Luffy to reach the roof. Wait ... The first time Luffy confronts a yonkou, it's him and Sanji forming a duo to stop Big Mom's attack, how symbolic do you think that is?

In the end, as Oda himself says, Zoro and Sanji are Luffy's wings, the scene in FI of Zoro and Sanji blocking opponents and opening the carpet for Luffy to pass is very deep, which refutes anything contrary to that, M3 is the dynamic most prominent in history.


To equate Sanji not being in the Worst Generation to Zoro not being in the Supernova trio is laughable or being mentioned in a random speech is laughable.
Why is it a ridiculous speech? Why doesn't it fit with your headcanon and the biased way you see things?

Oda could have framed Zoro in the supernova trio several times, but he didn't. Could have framed Zoro together with Luffy / Law when they received the merit they had in Dressrosa and in Kaido's speech, could have placed Zoro together with Luffy and BB on the Im posters, could have framed Zoro in the speech Shakky and Brownbeard, but he just didn't, deal with it

Who said Sanji doesn't form a Group with Luffy & Zoro?
You are the ones who act like this dynamic never existed lol, just for convenience.

The Thread is called "Why Sanji downplay..." so i pointed out some reasons why Sanji is downplayed
Well, and I explained why his arguments are bads, and I gave an example of Zoro not being included with Luffy several times, so Sanji not being grouped on the roof or in the supernovae is a very weak argument to try to downplay he

Why are you people insecure & need to mention Zoro so desperately??
You brought Zoro here in the first place.

In fact, just look at your publications history to see who is really insecure, in various threads and discussions that the subject is not even Sanji, you at all times try to bring him into the discussions to give free hate, so review yourself


Btw, these are Main Three Characters:

This is a tribute to the cover of volume 1. But since you brought it, I think Zoro, Sanji, Usopp and Nami are the main characters in one piece, one step behind Luffy obviously. They all receive attention and adequate depth from Oda.

But in matters of hierarchy and strength, it is obvious that Zoro and Sanji are Luffy's main men, not even an argument.
 
And Kizaru and Co? World strongest stoner?

And a gag is a gag. Even Zoro was willingly to give it up for Luffy... But hey if Zoro does it it's all cool and if Sanji does the same even for Zoro it's weak shit.

Do not get me wrong. Zoro is and will be stronger. But saying Sanji can never hang around with them cuz of his dream is bullshit as we have seen with no strongest x dream of top tiers where we have no clue what dream they have.
I'm not talking about strength
 
lmfao, M3 is literally the "grouping of characters" more worked and placed on panels throughout the manga, you are shamelessly trying to delegitimize something that Oda insisted on working for several years.

In fact, the last time M3 was grouped, it was in PH when it was revealed that both 3 have CoA and CoO. In the following arches they separated so it was not possible to do so, but it returned twice in onigashima.




Totally false, M3, Zoro/Sanji, Luffy/Zoro, Luffy/Sanji are dynamics done over and over again throughout history, and I doubt that Luffy / Zoro is the biggest one, if you're so sure, you should try to prove it over there.

I can agree that Zoro is closest to Luffy in terms of affinity (although not by much), Luffy and Sanji had their extremely deep relationship at WCI and had several moments of incredible tuning between them, and we also have several times that Luffy and Sanji formed duos throughout history, even a few chapters ago when Sanji tried to lead Luffy to reach the roof. Wait ... The first time Luffy confronts a yonkou, it's him and Sanji forming a duo to stop Big Mom's attack, how symbolic do you think that is?

In the end, as Oda himself says, Zoro and Sanji are Luffy's wings, the scene in FI of Zoro and Sanji blocking opponents and opening the carpet for Luffy to pass is very deep, which refutes anything contrary to that, M3 is the dynamic most prominent in history.




Why is it a ridiculous speech? Why doesn't it fit with your headcanon and the biased way you see things?

Oda could have framed Zoro in the supernova trio several times, but he didn't. Could have framed Zoro together with Luffy / Law when they received the merit they had in Dressrosa and in Kaido's speech, could have placed Zoro together with Luffy and BB on the Im posters, could have framed Zoro in the speech Shakky and Brownbeard, but he just didn't, deal with it



You are the ones who act like this dynamic never existed lol, just for convenience.



Well, and I explained why his arguments are bads, and I gave an example of Zoro not being included with Luffy several times, so Sanji not being grouped on the roof or in the supernovae is a very weak argument to try to downplay he



You brought Zoro here in the first place.

In fact, just look at your publications history to see who is really insecure, in various threads and discussions that the subject is not even Sanji, you at all times try to bring him into the discussions to give free hate, so review yourself




This is a tribute to the cover of volume 1. But since you brought it, I think Zoro, Sanji, Usopp and Nami are the main characters in one piece, one step behind Luffy obviously. They all receive attention and adequate depth from Oda.

But in matters of hierarchy and strength, it is obvious that Zoro and Sanji are Luffy's main men, not even an argument.
one is considered to be a leader on his own with 4 supernovas for the next generation while the other is getting clowned by his shit and gag scenes :gokulaugh:

now when you will make the thread about zoro in relation with the bet :kata:
 
lmfao, M3 is literally the "grouping of characters" more worked and placed on panels throughout the manga, you are shamelessly trying to delegitimize something that Oda insisted on working for several years.

In fact, the last time M3 was grouped, it was in PH when it was revealed that both 3 have CoA and CoO. In the following arches they separated so it was not possible to do so, but it returned twice in onigashima.
So they were last grouped together 400 chapters ago? It was a nice dynamic pre-timeskip but things changed after Luffy and Zoro got mentored by the best of the best while Sanji was running away from okamas.

Totally false, M3, Zoro/Sanji, Luffy/Zoro, Luffy/Sanji are dynamics done over and over again throughout history, and I doubt that Luffy / Zoro is the biggest one, if you're so sure, you should try to prove it over there.
Zoro was the first to join, first to declare Luffy would become Pirate King, the entire Whiskey Peak, his speech in Water 7, him taking Luffy's pain in Thriller Bark, and then most importantly when Luffy and Zoro both became the leaders of the next generation of pirates and Sanji was nowhere to be seen. After the timeskip, we had Zero and Luffy both say they don't want to be heroes because they don't want to share their meat/sake, we had Zoro reminding Luffy to take the New World seriously, their Wano parallels and seeing how Kaido affected the country in both Otama and Otoko, their training, and now most importantly Luffy and Zoro are on the roof while Sanji is nowhere to be seen.

I can agree that Zoro is closest to Luffy in terms of affinity (although not by much), Luffy and Sanji had their extremely deep relationship at WCI and had several moments of incredible tuning between them, and we also have several times that Luffy and Sanji formed duos throughout history, even a few chapters ago when Sanji tried to lead Luffy to reach the roof. Wait ... The first time Luffy confronts a yonkou, it's him and Sanji forming a duo to stop Big Mom's attack, how symbolic do you think that is?
I never said Luffy/Sanji was a dynamic that didn't exist but it's a fact that Luffy/Zoro is much more explored.

In the end, as Oda himself says, Zoro and Sanji are Luffy's wings, the scene in FI of Zoro and Sanji blocking opponents and opening the carpet for Luffy to pass is very deep, which refutes anything contrary to that, M3 is the dynamic most prominent in history.
Oda said Luffy, Zoro, and Nami are the triggers of One Piece. FMI was over 400 chapters ago. Sanji and Jinbe also recently blocked opponents for Luffy to advance a few chapters ago. It really doesn't mean that much.

Why is it a ridiculous speech? Why doesn't it fit with your headcanon and the biased way you see things?

Oda could have framed Zoro in the supernova trio several times, but he didn't. Could have framed Zoro together with Luffy / Law when they received the merit they had in Dressrosa and in Kaido's speech, could have placed Zoro together with Luffy and BB on the Im posters, could have framed Zoro in the speech Shakky and Brownbeard, but he just didn't, deal with it
Because being in the Worst Generation is way more important than being mentioned in a random speech? It's not much of a trio anyway considering the only important thing they are really about to do together is fight Kaido/BM and Zoro is right there with them.

Luffy/Zoro has always been the most explored and well-portrayed dynamic in One Piece, Oda hasn't given a second thought to the M3 since over 400 chapters ago. Deal with it.
 
You are the ones who act like this dynamic never existed lol, just for convenience.
In fact, just look at your publications history to see who is really insecure, in various threads and discussions that the subject is not even Sanji, you at all times try to bring him into the discussions to give free hate, so review yourself
Seems like your intention is about criticizing my way of discussion & giving opinion, rather than talk solely about this Thread's Question, so i won't answer you any further

I'm sorry that i don't participate in Threads the way that pleases you
Well, and I explained why his arguments are bads, and I gave an example of Zoro not being included with Luffy several times, so Sanji not being grouped on the roof or in the supernovae is a very weak argument to try to downplay he
Okay Sanji not being included in Official Group + Prophecy = Zoro not included in some Scenes
Thanks for the enlightenment
This is a tribute to the cover of volume 1. But since you brought it, I think Zoro, Sanji, Usopp and Nami are the main characters in one piece, one step behind Luffy obviously. They all receive attention and adequate depth from Oda.

But in matters of hierarchy and strength, it is obvious that Zoro and Sanji are Luffy's main men, not even an argument.
Ok
 
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