Break Week Why the Sanji downplay is stupid and pathetic!!!

[Luffy bin Dragon]

It’s hard to make progress in finding All Blue, you either find it or you don’t.

Oda hasnt focused on it at all its honestly the most forgettable dream of the SH

 

[Lunaria]

Oda hasnt focused on it at all its honestly the most forgettable dream of the SH

Well that’s because Oda focuses too much on Luffy at the expanse of the other crew members. We don’t hear much about Nami or Chopper’s dream either.

 

[Constantine]

I think All Blue is tied to the endgame

 

[Luffy bin Dragon]

Well that’s because Oda focuses too much on Luffy at the expanse of the other crew members. We don’t hear much about Nami or Chopper’s dream either.

we been focusing on choppers dream as furthers his medicines and NAmi is off screen and doesnt need to be focused on

 

[Lunaria]

we been focusing on choppers dream as furthers his medicines and NAmi is off screen and doesnt need to be focused on

Brook’s dream is the least interesting one in my book. He’s just waiting to reach a place we’ve already seen to be reunited with a whale we already know and his dream literally means "end of the journey".

 

[Rekien]

Well that’s because Oda focuses too much on Luffy at the expanse of the other crew members. We don’t hear much about Nami or Chopper’s dream either.

Oda has made pretty clear that Nami is drawing maps as they go, and Chopper is improving as a doctor at every arc... Even ussop has some moments of shine when he does a brave act or another even when strugling with his cowardice. As for Sanji dream, theres nothing much that oda can do asside from showing Sanji is improving as a cook and will be able to cook every ingredient when he finds the all blue. Wich i feel was shown when he basicaly beat BM's top cooks in skill, considering he baked a Cake of the same quality withoud having nearly as much time to prepare as they did.

 

[Lunaria]

Oda has made pretty clear that Nami is drawing maps as they go, and Chopper is improving as a doctor at every arc... Even ussop has some moments of shine when he does a brave act or another even when strugling with his cowardice. As for Sanji dream, theres nothing much that oda can do asside from showing Sanji is improving as a cook and will be able to cook every ingredient when he finds the all blue. Wich i feel was shown when he basicaly beat BM's top cooks in skill, considering he baked a Cake of the same quality withoud having nearly as much time to prepare as they did.

We know she draws maps but Oda never focuses on that. He focuses on Chopper’s medical skills, yes, but there’s hardly any focus on his dream of finding a cure for all diseases.

 

[Rekien]

We know she draws maps but Oda never focuses on that. He focuses on Chopper’s medical skills, yes, but there’s hardly any focus on his dream of finding a cure for all diseases.

He focused a bit on Chopper in punk hazard, i think we will get more on choppers dream in the arc vegapunk appears, as for nami, theres not much to do asside of just say she is drawing maps in the sidelines and that she is a great navigator...

But yeah, Oda will never be focusing much on that, pre-ts anime had some great filler episodes focusing on the individual crewmenbers though, like that one with the all blue salt from aqua laguna in ennies lobby. Sadly, not cannon.

 

[Akuma_Law]

Usopps ambition

vs

Sanji ambition

:zorothink:
You obviously a genius

 

[Luffy bin Dragon]

:zorothink:
You obviously a genius

no refutation just vibes

 

[bennbeckman]

Sanji didn’t intend to leave the crew when he left Zou, he was planning on coming back. He "left" the crew later, at WCI, but not willingly. His hands were tied.

That's still leaving the crew, or even in WCI his back was against the wall or his hands were literally tied so he gave up and left the crew.

 

[Zenos7]

Yes there is, because CoC is a sign of monstrous strength/potential. So unless you expect Usopp to surpass Sanji at some point of the story, you can’t expect him to have CoC without all members of the Monster Trio having it.

its a sign of potential, sure. because you either get born with it it or you dont.

and thats why saying sanji would have it if usopp has it is just stupud and anti-logical.

imagine dd staying a cd instead of becoming a pirate, do you think he would have gotten just as strong? extremely unlikely because cds dont seem to do any fighting (except for maybe the gorosei). so yeah, having coc doesnt put you above anyone by default just because they dont have it.

i dont think usopp will get it though, but thats beside the point

 

[Lunaria]

its a sign of potential, sure. because you either get born with it it or you dont.

and thats why saying sanji would have it if usopp has it is just stupud and anti-logical.

imagine dd staying a cd instead of becoming a pirate, do you think he would have gotten just as strong? extremely unlikely because cds dont seem to do any fighting (except for maybe the gorosei). so yeah, having coc doesnt put you above anyone by default just because they dont have it.

i dont think usopp will get it though, but thats beside the point

Again, it’s a manga. Characters are what the author want them to be. Claiming it’s stupid and illogical to say Sanji has CoC if Usopp has it because characters are supposed to be born with it makes no sense. If Oda wants Usopp or Sanji to have it, it means they were born with it, that’s it.

Your point about Doflamingo is irrelevant. He became a pirate, period. It makes no sense to counterargue with an alternate, non existent scenario.

 

[Luffy bin Dragon]

Yes there is, because CoC is a sign of monstrous strength/potential. So unless you expect Usopp to surpass Sanji at some point of the story, you can’t expect him to have CoC without all members of the Monster Trio having it.



I’m not ignoring your posts, mate, it’s just that it doesn’t counter my point at all. Actually it does the exact opposite.

CoC isn't about strength

 

[Lunaria]

CoC isn't about strength

Then name a weak character that has it.

 

[Luffy bin Dragon]

Then name a weak character that has it.

chinjao the man with only 500 million berries while Akainu doesnt have it and the gao between Usopp and Sanji isnt as big as Chinjao and Akainu

 

[Lunaria]

chinjao the man with only 500 million berries while Akainu doesnt have it and the gao between Usopp and Sanji isnt as big as Chinjao and Akainu

Chinjao is strong and past his prime anyway. How do you know Akainu doesn’t have it ?

 

[Luffy bin Dragon]

Chinjao is strong and past his prime anyway. How do you Akainu doesn’t have it ?

In his prime he had 500 million and I dont care about your headcanon nothing points to him having it

 

[Lunaria]

In his prime he had 500 million and I dont care about your headcanon nothing points to him having it

As if 500 million was bad. And if Akainu doesn’t have CoC because it’s only "my headcanon", why are you here arguing about Usopp having it ? We’re going in circles here.

 

[Luffy bin Dragon]

As if 500 million was bad. And if Akainu doesn’t have CoC because it’s only "my headcanon", why are you here arguing about Usopp having it ? We’re going in circles here.

500 million isnt bad but Usopp at the bare minium will be YC2 so you cant say Usopp is too weak