Break Week Why the Sanji downplay is stupid and pathetic!!!

But thats how CoC works. A weak character having CoC does not mean a stronger character has it as well. Thats a non-sequitur, i.e. illogical. Get over it.

Its not irrelevant, because it was directly correlated to your point about "potential".
What makes no sense is acting like it’s something that doesn’t depend on Oda. He decides who has it, it’s not something he doesn’t have control over. If he says tomorrow that Buggy has CoC, then Buggy was born with CoC. And he decided that CoC users should all be strong so they all are, that’s it. I don’t see why that’s so hard to get it.
 
The Doflamingo fight is a pretty bad fight to compare it too since we saw the results of the Sanji vs Mingo fight
Sanji was in huge disadvantage against Doflamingo because of fighting on the sky.

Remember, Zoro couldn't even get there to fight without Orlumbus, and Luffy couldn't do it without G4 as well. If they throw Zoro or G2/G3 Luffy at Doflamingo in the same situation, Doflamingo would beat them even easier than he beat Sanji.

Fighting on the air is what Doflamingo wants,

 
Sanji was in huge disadvantage against Doflamingo because of fighting on the sky.

Remember, Zoro couldn't even get there to fight without Orlumbus, and Luffy couldn't do it without G4 as well. If they were throw Zoro or G2/G3 Luffy at Doflamingo in the same situation, Doflamingo would beat them even easier than he beat Sanji.

Fighting on the air is what Doflamingo wants,

How is it a disadvantage for Sanji, he can literally use skywalk? If Sanji couldnt fly the argument is valid, but that's not the case. It's a bad comparison because Doflamingo beat Sanji with ease in this fight.

I think Luffy's G2 and G3 have been nerfed Posttime skip and i still stand by it, hence him using G4. I literally stated in my post before I think Sanji's DJ is stronger than the G2 and G3
 
The Doflamingo fight is a pretty bad fight to compare it too since we saw the results of the Sanji vs Mingo fight

Luffy and Sanji blocking BM is as impressive as Luffy knocking down Kaido their first fight with G3 punch while Kaido was a dragon
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Oda really nerfed it, because prior to ch 1000, against primary opponents, Mingo, Cracker, Katakuri, G2 and G3 have been just useless
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Has he only used Hell Memories vs Wadasumani guy from Fishman Island
Yes, he never used it again. Makes we wonder whether it was a one time thing with the sole intent of making a gag or a real power up. But I’m curious about where you’d put this potential power up if you think DJ is on par with G3.
 
Yoo Its hilarious seeing people using the "ambition" point over and over to be a reason why he cant have such feat, and mocking Sanji dream as if it's something minor

Sanji dream as a pirate isn't really just about finding some mythical sea, it was about freedom as well

His backstory should have made that very loud and clear
Being born into that family and then being raised by a pirate afterwards all lead to him wanting such desire for freedom and fulfill all his dreams

mermairds island was one of those dreams he wanted to acquire during that freedom lol
 
Yes, he never used it again. Makes we wonder whether it was a one time thing with the sole intent of making a gag or a real power up. But I’m curious about where you’d put this potential power up if you think DJ is on par with G3.
Im sure he has a DJ mixed with Raidsuit combo in the bag. Im also sure he has on top of that Hells Memory with Raidsuit as the Ace in the hole as well

Issue is with Hells Memory is all those characters on FI were pretty weak in comparison to SHs that guy was far weaker than Sanji
 
How is it a disadvantage for Sanji, he can literally use skywalk? If Sanji couldnt fly the argument is valid, but that's not the case.
Skywalk doesn't make you stand on the air like Doflamingo uses strings easily. He needs to kick the air every single time before he makes a move, which makes him slower than usual.

If it was a fight between two geppou users, then you would be right. But Doflamingo can stand on the air without even making any movement.



Zoro doesn't even understand how Doflamingo flies, because he just stands there without making any movement, and Zoro has seen how Sanji and CP9 were flying before.
 
Yoo Its hilarious seeing people using the "ambition" point over and over to be a reason why he cant have such feat, and mocking Sanji dream as if it's something minor

Sanji dream as a pirate isn't really just about finding some mythical sea, it was about freedom as well

His backstory should have made that very loud and clear
Being born into that family and then being raised by a pirate afterwards all lead to him wanting such desire for freedom and fulfill all his dreams

mermairds island was one of those dreams he wanted to acquire during that freedom lol
The ambition quote was literally quoted in the beginning after Zoro's loss to Mihawk
 

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Sanji didn’t intend to leave the crew when he left Zou, he was planning on coming back. He "left" the crew later, at WCI, but not willingly. His hands were tied.
The amount of People that dindt get Sanji's motivations for his actions durante WCI is enough to make you think Two Piece might be The real manga, and One Piece is just a fanfic.
Rofl
 
Skywalk doesn't make you stand on the air like Doflamingo uses strings easily. He needs to kick the air every single time before he makes a move, which makes him slower than usual.

If it was a fight between two geppou users, then you would be right. But Doflamingo can stand on the air without even making any movement.



Zoro doesn't even understand how Doflamingo flies, because he just stands there without making any movement, and Zoro has seen how Sanji and CP9 were flying before.
Pretty much. And Doflamingo's strings allows him to outmaneuver his opponent in the air. Which makes him such an tricky opponent to deal with.
 
And don't talk to me about how his dream isn't explained or talked about because most of the strawhats aren't

Also all blue is most likely gonna have something to do with laugh tale it's all going to be connected

Probably why Oda never explained or hinted at what it is exactly
 
Skywalk doesn't make you stand on the air like Doflamingo uses strings easily. He needs to kick the air every single time before he makes a move, which makes him slower than usual.

If it was a fight between two geppou users, then you would be right. But Doflamingo can stand on the air without even making any movement.



Zoro doesn't even understand how Doflamingo flies, because he just stands there without making any movement, and Zoro has seen how Sanji and CP9 were flying before.
Zoro did not even fight Mingo, so that's irrelevant. And Sanji is a CoO specialist and could not detect Doffy's strings nor fast enough to avoid them? There are so many holes in your argument, Mingo was clearly superior in every way to Sanji.
 
Zoro did not even fight Mingo, so that's irrelevant. And Sanji is a CoO specialist and could not detect Doffy's strings nor fast enough to avoid them? There are so many holes in your argument, Mingo was clearly superior in every way to Sanji.
I didn't say Mingo wasn't superior, I say Mingo would beat G2/G3 Luffy easily too on the air, if G2/G3 Luffy was able to use geppou.

And he beat Sanji by using Parasite in the end, the technique that stopped even Jozu. Did you really expect from Sanji to overpower Parasite?
 
Sanji doesn't have clear hints of CoC as Zoro for example. The chances are there, but I wouldn't bet on it.
Well Ryou is CoA so ofc Sanji has it. But I wish people didn't need microscopes everytime to see if Sanji is apparently using CoA hardening so the fact that his CoA was never even highlighted means it's weak as fuck.
Although I do agree that Sanji is superior to Jimbe, Sanji doesn't have the portrayal of Zoro & Luffy, who are part of the Worst Gen, and are fighting 2 Yonkos currently. That much is clear.
And well Sanji is definetely a simp bro, that everyone can agree on :)
 
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What makes no sense is acting like it’s something that doesn’t depend on Oda. He decides who has it, it’s not something he doesn’t have control over. If he says tomorrow that Buggy has CoC, then Buggy was born with CoC. And he decided that CoC users should all be strong so they all are, that’s it. I don’t see why that’s so hard to get it.
ok now it seems like you are in a loop, or forgetting what your previous argument was lmfao.

So "if usopp has CoC, then sanji does as well".

But now you talking it depends on oda. So with that above statement, did you make a definitive statement about odas mind?! that would be even worse than just a logical fallacy.

Was ace strong as a kid when he first used it? Was doflamingo strong as a kid when he first used it? thats exactly why "potential" is important. If you are born with it but dont do shit to become strong, you wont become strong despite having CoC.
I dont see why thats so hard to get. Not to mention one can become strong without potential too. So all kinds of mess in your reasoning.
 
Dont get angry at me boys but it's a fact that Sanji is more pirate than some of the crew lol, he was most of his life living among pirates and was raised by one and wanted to set sail to the grand line before Luffy came and set him free from his debt to Zeff
And his dreams are closer to what a real pirate would want to experience lol

I mean Zoro wasn't even a pirate and became one for Luffy, Nami hated pirates before she met Luffy etc
 
I didn't say Mingo wasn't superior, I say Mingo would beat G2/G3 Luffy easily too on the air, if G2/G3 Luffy was able to use geppou.

And he beat Sanji by using Parasite in the end, the technique that stopped even Jozu. Did you really expect from Sanji to overpower Parasite?
G2 G3 cant fly like Sanji, never expected him to over power, but expected him to be able to detect those strings with his CoO though, that was the disappointing part.
 
Dont get angry at me boys but it's a fact that Sanji is more pirate than some of the crew lol, he was most of his life living among pirates and was raised by one and wanted to set sail to the grand line before Luffy came and set him free from his debt to Zeff

I mean Zoro wasn't even a pirate and became one for Luffy, Nami hated pirates before she met Luffy etc
and?
 
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