Questions & Mysteries Why there are so many Admiral Haters here?

[MarineHQ]

How am i supposed to defend "arguments" that I never said in the first place?

This was your response to my post bringing up Big Mom's and Kaido's anti feats

Yea yea, we already saw what happened when Kizaru interacted with Franky.

So...what happened ?
It must be something on a similar level otherwise why would you bring it up.

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

Why shouldn't i use that as an argument?
Kizaru looks worse than what happened in Kaidou v. Kinemon.
Kizaru used a casual light kick, so what?
Kaidou was in base, and used a random CoC club swing.

If anything this makes Kaidou look better in retrospect, since we have more "Top Tiers" looking bad for not taking out their much weaker opponents in a single hit.

Kaidou put Kinemon to sleep for 11 chapters, Kinemon woke up, received medical treatment, was attacked by Base Kaidou using a casual and simple blow, and simply got dismantled and extremely damaged, he was trembling, then he was sliced and saved by Law's power, this in ch-1014. After that, we have Kinemon's body 'running', however, in chapter 1041, 27 chapters later, this is Kinemon:

The case of Kaido vs Kinemon is not even remotely comparable...

You have:

• Sentomaru conscious 1 chapter after the fight against Kizaru.
• Bonney after being kicked and hitting the barrier.
• Franky, Atlas, Sanji, Kuma with 1 HP...

Spoiler: Sentomaru

CH - 1104

Spoiler: Franky

Spoiler: Bonney

 

[ConquistadoR]

This was your response to my post bringing up Big Mom's and Kaido's anti feats

So...what happened ?
It must be something on a similar level otherwise why would you bring it up.

You said:

Oda has yet to allow any fighter that isn't Luffy to touch or get anywhere near Kizaru. Remember when Yonkou fans were saying that we should wait for Oda to put the Admirals in front of the crew because he will pull the same "anti feats" for them ?
Well we're supposedly reaching the final stages of the arc and so far Kizaru was only hit by the emperor.

And i brought up Franky.

I'm not responsible for some deluded idiot twisting what I posted to mean something else that I never said.

 

[SkySanji]

Again, flat earthers bitching about how round earthers always make the same arguments lmfao.

Yeah because shit like

• "Kizaru fed Luffy"
• "Kizaru moved Luffy to the vending machine at lightspeed"
• "Kizaru was holding back against Franky"

Are totally round earth level takes, not just delusional AssmiraL agenda at all

 

[MarineHQ]

You said:

And i brought up Franky.

I'm not responsible for some deluded idiots twisting what I posted to mean something else that I never said.

Then your response doesn't make any sense in the first place. When the topic is about who put hands on Kizaru and you respond with "Yea, Yea we saw what happened with Franky " when he has never touched Kizaru.

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Yeah because shit like

• "Kizaru fed Luffy"
• "Kizaru moved Luffy to the vending machine at lightspeed"

Oda wanted to bait with the possibility of this scenario, that's pretty obvious.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Meigou to the face and a Magma fist to the leg.

Result? A nice haircut and a feet manicure. 2 HP Kuma btw

Literally Kuma’s face got melted you blind fuck lol.

What lasting injuries did Kinemon suffer from bloodlusted Kaido?

Kuma is a Vegapunk Cyborg, he is literally 1 million times more durable than Kinemon. Lol

 

[Erkan12]

This thing about Aokiji as a subordinate must haunt them a lot given the amount of denial they were giving before it was confirmed.

Its as big failure as ZKK for sure.

So Buggy is stronger than Mihawk and Crocodile? Before you even start bringing up pathetic excuses hold on for a minute - its always about the circumstances a character joins someone else. A stronger character can join a weaker character for personal porpuses.

Oda literally showed us how Kuzan joined Blackbeard! Kuzan was about to kill him and his entire crew which made Blackbeard sweat in fear and asking him to join him instead so that he can pursue his own personal goals the best and easiest way - he literally convinced someone who clearly seemed superior to him to join his power as an ally.

In fact most of Blackbeards crew members joined him as "allies" and not as inferiors - remember why Shiryu joined Teach?

You must be a retard if you really believe ''Kuzan was about to kill him'' This is exact reason people had to talk about Admirals because you clowns lie about what happened all the time.

-Teach literally told Aokiji to reverse his ice on his crew and he did.
-Teach apologize for his crew trying to kill him, because he was planning to recruit him not kill him.
-Then Teach's crew tells him he must be crazy for asking that, they are worried Aokiji can backstab them, but Teach is not worried about Akainu/Aokiji level fighter backstabbing and still wants recruits him in his crew as underling. Thats how confident Teach was about Aokiji.

Later Teach's crew literally says Teach is the strongest guy, which confirms again Teach > Aokiji as Aokiji was a BB pirate at that point.

Sword + admiral was an establish alliance on this forum.

That ended in Wano, with the reveal of ACoC. Once Zoro got it, Znation does a complete 180. An now argue character without CoC, are below those with it. Wtf do Ztards always pretend they got no clue what’s going on smh

Lmao thats true. Remember how they were saying Ad.CoC doesn't exist?
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/advanced-coc-discussion.11907/

 

[ConquistadoR]

Then your response doesn't make any sense in the first place. When the topic is about who put hands on Kizaru and you respond with "Yea, Yea we saw what happened with Franky " when he has never touched Kizaru.

He doesn't need to touch Kizaru, after all Snakeman couldn't.
Oda isn't afraid of having -base- Franky tank some of Kizaru's attacks.

That still is an anti-feat, just like Kinemon v. Kaidou - which looks a whole lot better now that other Top Tiers are going through the same shit.

 

[Sasaki Kojirō]

Its as big failure as ZKK for sure.


You must be a retard if you really believe ''Kuzan was about to kill him'' This is exact reason people had to talk about Admirals because you clowns lie about what happened all the time.

-Teach literally told Aokiji to reverse his ice on his crew and he did.
-Teach apologize for his crew trying to kill him, because he was planning to recruit him not kill him.
-Then Teach's crew tells him he must be crazy for asking that, they are worried Aokiji can backstab them, but Teach is not worried about Akainu/Aokiji level fighter backstabbing and still wants recruits him in his crew as underling. Thats how confident Teach was about Aokiji.

Later Teach's crew literally says Teach is the strongest guy, which confirms again Teach > Aokiji as Aokiji was a BB pirate at that point.

Lmao thats true. Remember how they were saying Ad.CoC doesn't exist?
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/advanced-coc-discussion.11907/

Wow, Blackbeard's subordinates are saying that Blackbeard is better than Akainu's equal here?! LOL

This whole thing with Aokiji becoming a subordinate of Emperor Blackbeard goes into the list of the Top 10 biggest L's for Admirals versus Yonko.

 

[MarineHQ]

He doesn't need to touch Kizaru, after all Snakeman couldn't.
Oda isn't afraid of having -base- Franky tank some of Kizaru's attacks.

That still is an anti-feat, just like Kinemon v. Kaidou - which looks a whole lot better now that other Top Tiers are going through the same shit.

Not really. It perfectly aligns with powerscaling. The Kicks that knocked out pre ts SN do nothing to Franky. I don't see where this is an anti feat.

Who says any attack of a Top Tier must one shot or mortally wound a vet level fighter ?

 

[ConquistadoR]

Not really. It perfectly aligns with powerscaling. The Kicks that knocked out pre ts SN do nothing to Franky. I don't see where this is an anti feat.

Ffs, this is base Franky we're talking about hahahaha

Who says any attack of a Top Tier must one shot or mortally wound a vet level fighter ?

Ask the Admiral fans who slandered Kaidou for failing to kill Kinemon in a single swing.

Atleast Kinemon was mortally wounded & unable to move. BASE Franky is out here pretending like Kizaru never kicked him at all.

 

[MarineHQ]

Ffs, this is base Franky we're talking about hahahaha

Yes, and ?
It's funny by calling this an anti feat you're actually damage controlling for Kizaru while I say no part of this is an anti feat.

Ask the Admiral fans who slandered Kaidou for failing to kill Kinemon in a single swing.

Atleast Kinemon was mortally wounded & unable to move. BASE Franky is out here pretending like Kizaru never kicked him at all.

Kaido used aCoC, we are not going to forget that.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Kaido used aCoC, we are not going to forget that.

And Kizaru used his Light DF to kick? Let's also not forget that.

Yes, and ?
It's funny by calling this an anti feat you're actually damage controlling for Kizaru while I say no part of this is an anti feat.

The last time base Franky was relevant in this manga, he was boxing with Senor Pink. I don't think i need to elaborate further than that.

 

[M944]

Wasn't it a Zoro fan to bother a translator on Twitter?

Pretty sure Admiral fan did it, maybe a Zoro fan did it too

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Ask the Admiral fans who slandered Kaidou for failing to kill Kinemon in a single swing.

I don’t think any Admiral fan said the light kicks that weren’t even intended to KO Bonney would one shot Franky lmfao

Kaido was bloodlusted with AdCoC and using a two handed attack when he failed to KO Kinemon lol

 

[MarineHQ]

And Kizaru used a Light DF to kick? Let's also not forget that.

Kizaru never kicks without the use of his Light DF, that's the equivalent of Kaido using his club for every attack.

Kaido used the power of the very strongest, a power that specifically serves as an AP amplifier.

The last time base Franky was relevant in this manga, he was boxing with Senor Pink. I don't think i need to elaborate further than that.

You need too because you're making Base Franky tanking a regular kick of Kizaru out to be a big deal when a couple chapters prior that same kick was blocked by Sentoumaru TWICE

 

[SkySanji]

Donquixote Officers had base Franky like this

Meanwhile this is Franky immediately after Kizaru light kicks him

You don't get to chalk this up to plot armor or Loda's bad writing after shitting on Kaido for years for making Kin'emon look like this after a random club swing in base

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

Kizaru not OHKOing Franky with his most low end & casual hand in pocket move :

is truly equal to Kaido failing to keep Kinemon down for more than 5 minutes while being bloodlusted and trying his hardest to kill him, bonking him TWO times in the head with advCOC and enraged expressions

Or to MR. "THIS POWER KNOWS NO RESTRAINT" Mihawk failing to put pre-ts Luffy down and getting blocked by Mr. 1 (one shot material for alabasta zoro)

Or Meme getting blocked by CHOPPER

Admirals don't have anti-feats when other "top tiers" have them against literal low tiers

 

[MarineHQ]

You don't get to chalk this up to plot armor or Loda's bad writing after shitting on Kaido for years for making Kin'emon look like this after a random club swing in base

As far as I can tell it is @ConquistadoR that is making this out to be a plot thing while I say the opossite.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Kizaru never kicks without the use of his Light DF, that's the equivalent of Kaido using his club for every attack.

Kaido used the power of the very strongest, a power that specifically serves as an AP amplifier.

Kaidou used CoC & Kizaru used his DF.

There ain't a whole lot of difference there.

You need too because you're making Base Franky tanking a regular kick of Kizaru out to be a big deal when a couple chapters prior that same kick was blocked by Sentoumaru TWICE

Which again, in retrospect, makes Kaidou look better now that Kizaru is going through the same fate.

Franky with the Shogun barely defeated Sasaki btw... w/o the Shogun he's even worse and if you think that guy tanking Kizaru's attacks isn't an anti-feat then the bar is on the fucking floor.