Questions & Mysteries Why top tiers can't turn their blades black?
Im sorry we don't have a panel of any top using advanced armament besides rayleigh and luffy. Tho i could be missing someone idk
We dont really have panels of top tiers using fs or even coo in general but doesn't mean they dont have it.
Even most the characters that have been confirmed to have coo or coa haven't been shown using it
But like you said
Even if he has a black blade that doesn't put him above character like shanks just means he has better armament
If having better armament doesn't automatically put him above lets say shanks why would it put him automatically above oden
We dont really have panels of top tiers using fs or even coo in general but doesn't mean they dont have it.
Even most the characters that have been confirmed to have coo or coa haven't been shown using it
But like you said
Even if he has a black blade that doesn't put him above character like shanks just means he has better armament
If having better armament doesn't automatically put him above lets say shanks why would it put him automatically above oden
No i didnt say that...
I dont think he has fs at all tbh. Just because he didn't use coc then doesn't mean he dont have it.
And you could ask the same to rayleigh why didn't he use advanced coa to save the strawhats. Maybe he was using it but we couldn't tell. Maybe the same can apply to oden
Why didnt the dukes or jack use haki against eachother? etc
Like hyo had barrier haki but man was still nothing compared to oden. Its not far fetched imo for him to have it
Ok show me a panel of shanks using coa or even coo? I guess if theres no panel he automatically doesn't have it
I agree he can be stronger than oden and weaker than shanks tho the reasoning being he has a black blade makes no sense
Also dont think oden is that much weaker than shanks
I dont think he has fs at all tbh. Just because he didn't use coc then doesn't mean he dont have it.
And you could ask the same to rayleigh why didn't he use advanced coa to save the strawhats. Maybe he was using it but we couldn't tell. Maybe the same can apply to oden
Why didnt the dukes or jack use haki against eachother? etc
Like hyo had barrier haki but man was still nothing compared to oden. Its not far fetched imo for him to have it
Ok show me a panel of shanks using coa or even coo? I guess if theres no panel he automatically doesn't have it
I agree he can be stronger than oden and weaker than shanks tho the reasoning being he has a black blade makes no sense
Also dont think oden is that much weaker than shanks
Except weve seen ray use acoa on panel.
Yeah he didnt use coc but we have doji saying he has it.
Has anyone said he has acoa ? No.
Infact we have the opposite. Oden seeing acoa and not having a clue what it is.
I knew you didnt read the manga. Shanks has used an adavanced haki when he held back akainus magma when he saved coby.
Of course it makes sense especially narritively as oda has straight up told us zoro will do what oden cannot.
Yeah he didnt use coc but we have doji saying he has it.
Has anyone said he has acoa ? No.
Infact we have the opposite. Oden seeing acoa and not having a clue what it is.
I knew you didnt read the manga. Shanks has used an adavanced haki when he held back akainus magma when he saved coby.
Of course it makes sense especially narritively as oda has straight up told us zoro will do what oden cannot.
I know he has it but we didn't see him use it again kizaru
Thats my point we even knew he had coc but he still didn't use it
Roger and whitebeards clash was more than just advanced coa
Wouldn't that just be considered barrier haki the same thing boas sister, hyo, and luffy have now
It was never said oden couldn't do it. It was said it just wasn't black yet. Same applies to ray and shanks with their swords
Theres nothing different between making wado, enma, shanks's, or even Brooks sword a black blade
Thats my point we even knew he had coc but he still didn't use it
Roger and whitebeards clash was more than just advanced coa
Wouldn't that just be considered barrier haki the same thing boas sister, hyo, and luffy have now
It was never said oden couldn't do it. It was said it just wasn't black yet. Same applies to ray and shanks with their swords
Theres nothing different between making wado, enma, shanks's, or even Brooks sword a black blade
He didnt use coc but we have statements saying he has it. Just like kidd.
Give me a statement that says he has acoa go on ?
What was it then ? Lets just start making shit up.
Weve yet to see shanks in a fight like we have with oden. If you want to bet he doesnt have the penetration be my guest.
Oden had haki on enma from 18 - 39
21 years so no he cant do it.
Agreed any sword zoro makes black means hes > oden who has no advanced hakis.
Give me a statement that says he has acoa go on ?
What was it then ? Lets just start making shit up.
Weve yet to see shanks in a fight like we have with oden. If you want to bet he doesnt have the penetration be my guest.
Oden had haki on enma from 18 - 39
21 years so no he cant do it.
Agreed any sword zoro makes black means hes > oden who has no advanced hakis.
Also people included kaido himseld have been trying to kill him for years
With most things never even hurting him let alone penetrating his skin
Even luffys strongest attack from barrages of g3 to g4 did absolutely nothing to him. Even with how strong those attacks are especially covered in haki
Oden was able to not only penetrate kaido but scar him aswell. And its not just because swords > dragon skin.
But because his coa was good enough to do it.
Luffy even admitted that he needed to advance his armament like ray to even hurt kaido
With most things never even hurting him let alone penetrating his skin
Even luffys strongest attack from barrages of g3 to g4 did absolutely nothing to him. Even with how strong those attacks are especially covered in haki
Oden was able to not only penetrate kaido but scar him aswell. And its not just because swords > dragon skin.
But because his coa was good enough to do it.
Luffy even admitted that he needed to advance his armament like ray to even hurt kaido
I think he has it but saying oden doesn't have it because it was never said aloud makes no sense
He didn't blacken either of his swords and neither did people like shanks and ray over a 20 year periods as well
Would that make his haki better than theres at least even if hes not stronger?
Through his swords probably
It makes the most sense imo. Decent haki isnt gonna let you hurt let alone hurt kaido. As seen with luffy
He didn't blacken either of his swords and neither did people like shanks and ray over a 20 year periods as well
Would that make his haki better than theres at least even if hes not stronger?
Through his swords probably
It makes the most sense imo. Decent haki isnt gonna let you hurt let alone hurt kaido. As seen with luffy
Yes oden is a swordsman so he cuts things
Just like most proficient swords he can make his haki flow through his swords
Swordman are not gonna use haki the same way a brawler will
And subpar haki aint hurting kaido again like we've seen with luffy.
Having a swordsman doesn't automatic give you an advantage over kaidos body either
Just like most proficient swords he can make his haki flow through his swords
Swordman are not gonna use haki the same way a brawler will
And subpar haki aint hurting kaido again like we've seen with luffy.
Having a swordsman doesn't automatic give you an advantage over kaidos body either
Yes oden is a swordsman so he cuts things
Just like most proficient swords he can make his haki flow through his swords
Swordman are not gonna use haki the same way a brawler will
And subpar haki aint hurting kaido again like we've seen with luffy.
Having a swordsman doesn't automatic give you an advantage over kaidos body either
Just like most proficient swords he can make his haki flow through his swords
Swordman are not gonna use haki the same way a brawler will
And subpar haki aint hurting kaido again like we've seen with luffy.
Having a swordsman doesn't automatic give you an advantage over kaidos body either
WE HAVE FUCKING SEEN SWORDSMAN ROGER USE ACOA WHEN IT WAS LEAKING LOADS AND HIS SWORD DID NOT CONNECT
ODEN USED BASIC HARDENING TO CUT THROUGH KAIDOS SCALES.
Roger was likely also using coc in tandem
Also dude was clashing with newgate who was doing the same. It was the fact that both of their force was so strong they didn't even connect
Just because you use advanced coa doesn't mean luffys fist or zoros swords are not gonna connect anymore
Again basic hardening couldn't even bruise him with g4 level attacks so it aint that simple
Also dude was clashing with newgate who was doing the same. It was the fact that both of their force was so strong they didn't even connect
Just because you use advanced coa doesn't mean luffys fist or zoros swords are not gonna connect anymore
Again basic hardening couldn't even bruise him with g4 level attacks so it aint that simple
Didn't say that...
Yeah not all coa is equal but the point is even with g4th massive power he wasn't able to even hurt kaido if he didn't have advice coa at its not like kaido even used coa to protect himself
Normal coa even with a hella strong attack shouldn't be able to hurt kaido but adanced coa should be able to do the job
Like for example the attack zoro used on pica that people compare to g4 attacks would do shit to kaido either
Yeah not all coa is equal but the point is even with g4th massive power he wasn't able to even hurt kaido if he didn't have advice coa at its not like kaido even used coa to protect himself
Normal coa even with a hella strong attack shouldn't be able to hurt kaido but adanced coa should be able to do the job
Like for example the attack zoro used on pica that people compare to g4 attacks would do shit to kaido either
I may have hastened to say advanced CoC. I would say that he has a unique way of channeling his techniques with CoC, he may have learned after losing his arm, and that power made him rise to the top of the pirates being yonkou 6 years later.
I am more direct and I say that this is the same power that Roger had to compete with the gura gura. The reason why the current Shanks are not PK level is the loss of his dominant arm.
Shanks and Roger are the prototype of real pirates, with pirate costumes and sabers. I would not doubt they have the same power
I am more direct and I say that this is the same power that Roger had to compete with the gura gura. The reason why the current Shanks are not PK level is the loss of his dominant arm.
Shanks and Roger are the prototype of real pirates, with pirate costumes and sabers. I would not doubt they have the same power