Character Discussion Why Vergo is better than Katakuri (edited version)

#41
Vergo infiltrated and chadded his way through the marines. He was beyond reproach because of his indispensability as an efficient soldier. Imagine Katakrui being in Vergo's place when trying to stop Law, he can not even hit Luffy. Just talking general efficency Vergo got things done.

Katakuri has a cruingy ass fanclub of inbreds worshipping him as a false idol with false hype, then turns on him in a dime. The leader of the fanclub was the one leading the spurning of him

That's nasty man. Oda did Katakuri dirty
You're justifying his actions and want to deny the fact that Vergo is a nasty ass traitor deceiving the navy and those who looked upon him. "Efficient soldier", no, he's a filthy traitor. That's it honestly. Katakuri squeezing Law's heart would absolutely murk Law. He wouldn't be retarded enough to charge directly at an unrestricted Law thinking his CoA would just tank Law's spatial hax.

How does that matter to Katakuri? Even when Brulee hyped him, he was honestly annoyed by the nonsense. Only because his fanclub is full of degenerates, doesn't mean that this makes Kata's character bad.
Another argument which goes in vain but entertain me more.

Your reading comprehension is nasty. Oda did Kata dirty, that's why Kata almost pulled a draw against the MC and had a change of heart midbattle, sure.
 
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#42
You're justifying his actions and want to deny the fact that Vergo is a nasty ass traitor deceiving the navy and those who looked upon him. "Efficient soldier", no, he's a filthy traitor. That's it honestly. Katakuri squeezing Law's heart would absolutely murk Law. He wouldn't be retarded enough to charge directly at an unrestricted Law thinking his CoA would just tank Law's spatial hax.

How does that matter to Katakuri? Even when Brulee hyped him, he was honestly annoyed by the nonsense. Only because his fanclub is full of degenerates, doesn't mean that this makes Kata's character bad.
Another argument which goes in vain but entertain me more.

Your reading comprehension is nasty. Oda did Kata dirty, that's why Kata almost pulled a draw against the MC and had a change of heart midbattle, sure.
Katakuri has lived an unfulfilled life in a inbred corner of the world while Vergo is travelling the world with free jurisdiction as he is not affiilaited with HQ.

If we compare physical power Vergo has bis blowgun feat which measures his lung capactiy, his abdominal and chest muscles, and he is doing immense feats after taking 5 billion berry attacks from Law.


to Katakuri who is throwing jellybean which by your own admission is only good enough to kill priests and fodders and Sanji dpodges it effortlessly :hihihi:

While he struggles to dodge Vergo who switched legs from right to left and Sanji is not keeping up with Vergo who is toying with him? Correct?

Vergo is the chad that always nerfs himself because he likes to have fun. Nerfed 2.0




Vergo attacks with




Sanji blocks with

"Like I t(r)olled you"


Vergo heavily nerfed while looking at Sanji as if he is a bug he needs to clean away with utter indifference to his fate. Sanji writhes in pain. Sanji who knocks away Wadatsumi and is compared to Jimbei in FI (being compared to a behemoth Jimbei even if he shows weaker feat is extraordinary).

Meanwhile Katakuri mercilessly kills his cooks that do nothing but serve him all his life. Katakuri has no regard for civilain life while Vergo always kept check on the rowdy G-5 unit
 
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critical mindset

#46
While it's true that vergo is a superior fighter to sanji, i don't see how vergo can overcome katakuri's FS
Yes Katakuri is a very tricky fighter. But did you see the blowgun feat how he creates shockwaves and explosions with his breath? He can not dodge things that have massive AoE, or he will have to struggle more to use his evasive skills against Vergo. Vergo's shockwave attacks whether it be onitake or blowgun is tricky even for the most skilled evasive fighter like Katakuri.

Vergo was outclassing Law's speed. Vergo has very good feats all in all so it is a very hard battle for the both of them. Katakuri could've easily smothered Luffy and killed him but he somehow wanted to prlong the fight (10 hours or whatever) but that's jsut PIS. Kata can kill Luffy in an instant with his various tricks and gimmicks. Katakuri is very capable fighter. If Vergo wins it will be quite a hard fight
 
#47
Character wise I guess it's up to people's opinions. Not everybody has to see greatness in a character.
So yeah vergo can be a better character than katakuri.

I will just say 2 things about katakuri.
First, him hiding his face wasn't due to his insecurity, he was fine with the way he looked, he started it after Brulee was attacked and scarred by some people who didn't like him. He felt guilty and for his siblings he started to hide his face. Good or bad, his reason wasn't what the OP pretends it to be.

Secondly, power level wise, Katakuri lol diffs Vergo, he doesn't even need to try.
 
#51
Katakuri has lived an unfulfilled life in a inbred corner of the world while Vergo is travelling the world with free jurisdiction as he is not affiilaited with HQ.

If we compare physical power Vergo has bis blowgun feat which measures his lung capactiy, his abdominal and chest muscles, and he is doing immense feats after taking 5 billion berry attacks from Law.


to Katakuri who is throwing jellybean which by your own admission is only good enough to kill priests and fodders and Sanji dpodges it effortlessly :hihihi:

While he struggles to dodge Vergo who switched legs from right to left and Sanji is not keeping up with Vergo who is toying with him? Correct?

Vergo is the chad that always nerfs himself because he likes to have fun. Nerfed 2.0




Vergo attacks with




Sanji blocks with

"Like I t(r)olled you"


Vergo heavily nerfed while looking at Sanji as if he is a bug he needs to clean away with utter indifference to his fate. Sanji writhes in pain. Sanji who knocks away Wadatsumi and is compared to Jimbei in FI (being compared to a behemoth Jimbei even if he shows weaker feat is extraordinary).

Meanwhile Katakuri mercilessly kills his cooks that do nothing but serve him all his life. Katakuri has no regard for civilain life while Vergo always kept check on the rowdy G-5 unit
What is this post?

This is fiction and not fucking RL.Anatomy has no place here
 
#53
Katakuri has lived an unfulfilled life in a inbred corner of the world while Vergo is travelling the world with free jurisdiction as he is not affiilaited with HQ.
You relativise Vergo's treacherous actions as a filthy traitor who didn't hesistate to slaughter his own men when they heard about his secret and trash Katakuri sacrificing his individual freedom to protect his siblings.
Furthermore, Katakuri shouldn't sacrifice his freedom to protect inbreds? So he's supposed to sacrifice himself if his siblings are morally healthy individuals in this case? I hope you explain yourself.

Katakuri isn't insecure to hide his face. As I said, he did it to protect his siblings from enemies aiming toward Katakuri.
In addition, Katakuri himself was strong but was mostly mocked for his appearance by most fuckers. He didn't care about it, he just beat those bitches into bloody pulps. But this changed when they even aimed toward his siblings and seriously injured those. Due to this traumatic moment, Katakuri decided to not show any weaknesses in order to protect his siblings from all sort of scums.

You're criticizing Katakuri's cruesome acts toward his chefs - when he still wanted to protect his secret which he build for his entire life in order to protect those important to him - whereas you have a blind eye on Vergo mercilessly slaughtering his own freaking trusted man who deceived those poor souls for several years; whom was viewed by Tashigi herself as - and I quote - "pirate scum".

You're chatting shit on most occasions but this is a new low.

If we compare physical power
So we are back to powerlevels? You couldn't find anything else to describe Vergo's characteristics?

Vergo has bis blowgun feat which measures his lung capactiy
Irrelevant.

Wadatsumi inflated air into his body in which he was like an elastic ball. Wadatsumi > Vergo according to your argument.

his abdominal and chest muscles
Wow!

and he is doing immense feats after taking 5 billion berry attacks from Law.
You're measuring Law's attack power (spatial hax excluded) due to his 5 billion berry DF?
I'll be quite blunt: that's false.

to Katakuri who is throwing jellybean which by your own admission is only good enough to kill priests and fodders and Sanji dpodges it effortlessly
His jellybean move is a fodder cleaning attack.
It'd would be embarassing if Sanji wasn't able to dodge this attack.

And no, I'm not hyping fodder moves unlike you who simps an irrelevant character like Vergo.

While he struggles to dodge Vergo who switched legs from right to left and Sanji is not keeping up with Vergo who is toying with him?
Sanji can easily deal with Vergo's combat speed whilst Sanji just dodged a move aimed towards fodders.
That wasn't Katakuri's combat ability, let alone a serious move whereas Vergo actively tried to kick Sanji away.

Vergo is the chad that always nerfs himself because he likes to have fun.
Katakuri nerfed himself and casually destroyed G2/G3 Luffy with troll moves. I guess Katakuri is a better chad after all.

Yo.

Okay?

Lmao, now you're inventing baseless characteristics into Vergo's character because you cannot find anything else.

Vergo heavily nerfed while looking at Sanji as if he is a bug he needs to clean away with utter indifference to his fate.
That bug, Vergo was looking at, sent his ass twice into a steel wall. Next.

Sanji who knocks away Wadatsumi and is compared to Jimbei in FI (being compared to a behemoth Jimbei even if he shows weaker feat is extraordinary).
Sanji wasn't compared to Jinbe; Jinbe took out a more inflated Wadatsumi than Sanji.
Ofc Sanji shared the same panels with Jinbe but according to this logic, Bound Man and X Drake are equals as well. Sanji gets his legs cracked whereas Jinbe sent a Yonko flying and blocked her slash (although he was sent flying injured later anyway).

It is funny that you mention Jinbe here - he takes out Sanji and Vergo at the same time with his internal damage attacks. You're just making it easier for me to believe that Katakuri genuinely neg diffs Vergo.

In conclusion, Vergo has trash feats, was one shot by a former warlord, another former warlord is superior to him as well but was worried when Luffy tried to 1vs1 the strongest Commander Big Mom has to offer. Yet VeRgo > KaTaKuRi!!!

Meanwhile Katakuri mercilessly kills his cooks that do nothing but serve him all his life.
Meanwhile Vergo mercilessly kills his own trusted men because they know about his shady actions as an agent.

Katakuri has no regard for civilain life while Vergo always kept check on the rowdy G-5 unit
Another joke. You gotta stop joking around br0.
 
#56
Katakuri let someone who tried to kill his own mom go, what a bitch.

How can he even look at Cracker and Perospero in the eye after what he did, if I was them I would gang up on this Traitor Bitch
Big Mom herself doesn't care about her children at all. Remember the current chapter in which Big Mom simply left Perospero alone there to deal with Marco and two Sulong Minks? Katakuri wants to toss this person off her throne.

Brulee knew his intentions and fully supported Katakuri. He'll be a better leader than Big Mom.
 
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