Character Discussion Why Vergo is better than Katakuri (edited version)
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Based on what?
Flat? I don't think so.
Without motivation? The sole reason for his "invincible" hype was to protect those dearly to him. He has huge motivation, although flaws still existed.
I agree. Katakuri was there for Luffy to learn FS and to gain a future powerful ally.
Katakuri is a character with many flaws but proper character development. Flat is the last thing I'd think about his characteristics.
Flat? I don't think so.
Without motivation? The sole reason for his "invincible" hype was to protect those dearly to him. He has huge motivation, although flaws still existed.
I agree. Katakuri was there for Luffy to learn FS and to gain a future powerful ally.
Katakuri is a character with many flaws but proper character development. Flat is the last thing I'd think about his characteristics.
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Katakuri is overrated. Fun and likable character, but his FS carries him in combat. Otherwise Luffy already had him outmatched in physicals from the outset, especially durability. Doflamingo took a better beating than Kat. There's probably a good reason his bounty is only slightly higher than Jack's and well below Queen's. I don't buy the argument that calamities "cause more of a ruckus, therefore they have higher bounties". One Piece, to make its content digestible for readers of all ages, makes some things very simple. Bounties, for villains, have always reflected relative strength levels. I have a feeling his base physicals are the weakest when comparing the top underlings of all emperors.
There are always idiots trying to mess with them. Did you forget Katakuri's introduction where he immediately killed a mafia boss? If he didn't see into the future, that dude would have killed many underlings there.
Katakuri is extremely cautious and his character is actually a reason why he's that powerful.
He was a bigger threat than Big Mom herself in the Tea Party, guess why?
Katakuri is extremely cautious and his character is actually a reason why he's that powerful.
He was a bigger threat than Big Mom herself in the Tea Party, guess why?
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Bro, Zoro is a real fighter with spirit who deserves CoC, while Katakuri has no passion and was shown that all he wanted was to live a couch-potato life and just be accepted for his appearance and eat donouts, wheras Zoro has trained his entire life to be the best. Zoro with ryou to cut up Pica and master Mihawk’s technique when the latter cut up the iceberg, same thing he did to Pica with ISDS.
If Kata had what he wanted he would’ve he would’ve been a slouch while Vergo and Zoro do hard workouts because they have genuine passion for it.
Katakuri developed great deal of self-consciousness surrounding his looks. People got to him so much he did in fact repress himself. @Sentinel
would like to think it was just all self-sacrifice, when it was shown he didn’t have the balls to exit from that identity he had developed. It is then a form of self-delusion for Kata where he pretends it is all a self-sacrificing act, but deep down he knows that he is lying to himself; in reality it takes balls to change and Kata lacked the balls to exit from his comfort zone.
@BakiDou you are so on the point on these matters with your goat analysis’, is there anything on what I just wrote that you’d like to comment or expand upon?
If Kata had what he wanted he would’ve he would’ve been a slouch while Vergo and Zoro do hard workouts because they have genuine passion for it.
Katakuri developed great deal of self-consciousness surrounding his looks. People got to him so much he did in fact repress himself. @Sentinel
would like to think it was just all self-sacrifice, when it was shown he didn’t have the balls to exit from that identity he had developed. It is then a form of self-delusion for Kata where he pretends it is all a self-sacrificing act, but deep down he knows that he is lying to himself; in reality it takes balls to change and Kata lacked the balls to exit from his comfort zone.
@BakiDou you are so on the point on these matters with your goat analysis’, is there anything on what I just wrote that you’d like to comment or expand upon?
This is because big mom is stupid (nerf), but the main question is what is his dream? Proctecting his family i suppose, so why he never become strong enough to stop his mother, why he never fight with another big pirates like Mihawk or shanks. He never fights against strong rival therefore as he'd become strong.
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Those stats are pretty damning :cheers:
You see what a beast Vergo is when he took 2 DJs (and was smashed into steel from it) yet when he enters the SAD room all the visible damages are gone. Meanwhile Luffy got knocked out (temporarily though) by DJ and got totally murked with a fractured skull, then you see just how much repetitive and excessive damage Kata put Luffy through. Just compare that to the effects of Diable Jambe which is completely brutal by comparison
You see what a beast Vergo is when he took 2 DJs (and was smashed into steel from it) yet when he enters the SAD room all the visible damages are gone. Meanwhile Luffy got knocked out (temporarily though) by DJ and got totally murked with a fractured skull, then you see just how much repetitive and excessive damage Kata put Luffy through. Just compare that to the effects of Diable Jambe which is completely brutal by comparison
