We saw GB fodderise Queen and King together 1v2. Simple enough right?
Possible counter arguments: They were imprisoned and couldn't fight / They had seastone cuffs on that weakened them./ They werent fully recovered
I do not see any shackles or chains. The burden of proof would be on you to prove they did have them on. Same goes with seastone cuffs.
You could potentially say there were not at "100%" due to bandages, but the problem here is they displayed their regeneration when Marco hurt them.
They regenned almost instantly from his attacks 5 pages to be exact. just 5. So if they had 7 days I reckon thats enough.
FURTHERMORE, where the fuck is zoros adv coc attacks anywhere to be seen on king?. Wow it's almost as if he's completely healed from those attacks
Anyway moving on from those futile attempts, lets move on to Vista and Jozu:
Vista, The flower swordsman. Held off the Worlds Strongest Swordsmen in name and reality ( a top tier). For a whopping 14 pages, on. his. own. Now 14 pages, how much is that exactly? You have numerous dialogue and moments going on in those 14 pages that show vista was holding off Mihawk for a significant amount of time. enough for anyone with a large disparity of weakness against mihawk to get bodied (like gb vs king and queen). As shown by the Newkama brothers that got insta bodied in 1/3 of a page, 1 panel.
Furthermore, to put icing on the cake as one would say, we have a GENERAL vivre card statement about vista that shows his sword skill is world class, something king and queen do not have. take this for what you will: 剣の実力はミホークと拮抗する程。間違いなく世界でもトップクラスの剣豪である。, which means "his swordsmanship is on par with mihawk's. he is undoubtedly one of the best swordsmen in the world."
Now to move on with Jozu!. Jozu funnily enough displays very similar prowess to what Vista did, only against an Admiral, Aokiji. Yes ladies and gentlemen Jozu held off aokiji for a whopping drum roll 20 PAGES, you cannot make this up. all those moments, dialogue add up to a very very very significant amount of time. (u can technically argue longer because it takes 9 more pages to show jozu is done, but we shall lowball this)
Jozu only fails to hold off Aokiji any longer when he unfortunately gets distracted by Marco getting lasered by Kizaru and then is CHEAP SHOT by Aokiji
Now I'm sure we can all agree that cheapshots and distractions should be an exception, right?. Why is that the case? well let me remind you of Oden VS Kaido. Oden has Kaido down for the count, he was getting absolutely clapped. Before a similar thing happened. Now this was obviously pulled off for narrative reasons, I mean, Oden had to lose somehow right?. So any person with reasonable judgement would say this does not take away from odens strength. So tell me the difference between these two panels:
What this ultimately shows. Is that, Vista and Jozu have performed in actuality infinitely better than top tiers Mihawk and an Admiral in a 1V1 situation than King and Queen have performed in a 1v2 VS and Admiral. The only conclusion you can draw from this is that Vista and Jozu are just stronger. And hey, as expected, of the crew of the man who was closest to the one piece.
So that's all for today folks. Now this was meant for people who have the view that King and Queen are indeed stronger. I understand some people may want to comment things such as "This is obvious" or "I already knew that" But surprisingly a lot of people do not, and people may have even switched up after this chapter, but believe me there are people who still believe this to be the case even after this chapter. So this is meant for THOSE people. I like to lay out a logical argument with evidence so that if someone disagrees I can direct them to this.
![](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/614286635592450058/987376432047095868/unknown.png?width=1008&height=935)
Possible counter arguments: They were imprisoned and couldn't fight / They had seastone cuffs on that weakened them./ They werent fully recovered
I do not see any shackles or chains. The burden of proof would be on you to prove they did have them on. Same goes with seastone cuffs.
You could potentially say there were not at "100%" due to bandages, but the problem here is they displayed their regeneration when Marco hurt them.
![](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/614286635592450058/987376750789009468/unknown.png)
They regenned almost instantly from his attacks 5 pages to be exact. just 5. So if they had 7 days I reckon thats enough.
![](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/614286635592450058/987376830984122469/unknown.png)
FURTHERMORE, where the fuck is zoros adv coc attacks anywhere to be seen on king?. Wow it's almost as if he's completely healed from those attacks
![](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/614286635592450058/987377033376063538/unknown.png)
![](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/614286635592450058/987377033569005639/unknown.png)
Anyway moving on from those futile attempts, lets move on to Vista and Jozu:
Vista, The flower swordsman. Held off the Worlds Strongest Swordsmen in name and reality ( a top tier). For a whopping 14 pages, on. his. own. Now 14 pages, how much is that exactly? You have numerous dialogue and moments going on in those 14 pages that show vista was holding off Mihawk for a significant amount of time. enough for anyone with a large disparity of weakness against mihawk to get bodied (like gb vs king and queen). As shown by the Newkama brothers that got insta bodied in 1/3 of a page, 1 panel.
![](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/614286635592450058/987377241262522388/unknown.png)
![](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/614286635592450058/987377241505824838/unknown.png)
![](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/614286635592450058/987377241744871504/unknown.png)
Furthermore, to put icing on the cake as one would say, we have a GENERAL vivre card statement about vista that shows his sword skill is world class, something king and queen do not have. take this for what you will: 剣の実力はミホークと拮抗する程。間違いなく世界でもトップクラスの剣豪である。, which means "his swordsmanship is on par with mihawk's. he is undoubtedly one of the best swordsmen in the world."
![](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/614286635592450058/987377284061224980/unknown.png)
Now to move on with Jozu!. Jozu funnily enough displays very similar prowess to what Vista did, only against an Admiral, Aokiji. Yes ladies and gentlemen Jozu held off aokiji for a whopping drum roll 20 PAGES, you cannot make this up. all those moments, dialogue add up to a very very very significant amount of time. (u can technically argue longer because it takes 9 more pages to show jozu is done, but we shall lowball this)
![](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/614286635592450058/987377406266470500/unknown.png)
Jozu only fails to hold off Aokiji any longer when he unfortunately gets distracted by Marco getting lasered by Kizaru and then is CHEAP SHOT by Aokiji
![](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/614286635592450058/987377420812316732/unknown.png)
![](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/614286635592450058/987377451078418562/unknown.png)
Now I'm sure we can all agree that cheapshots and distractions should be an exception, right?. Why is that the case? well let me remind you of Oden VS Kaido. Oden has Kaido down for the count, he was getting absolutely clapped. Before a similar thing happened. Now this was obviously pulled off for narrative reasons, I mean, Oden had to lose somehow right?. So any person with reasonable judgement would say this does not take away from odens strength. So tell me the difference between these two panels:
![](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/614286635592450058/987377736442081350/unknown.png)
What this ultimately shows. Is that, Vista and Jozu have performed in actuality infinitely better than top tiers Mihawk and an Admiral in a 1V1 situation than King and Queen have performed in a 1v2 VS and Admiral. The only conclusion you can draw from this is that Vista and Jozu are just stronger. And hey, as expected, of the crew of the man who was closest to the one piece.
So that's all for today folks. Now this was meant for people who have the view that King and Queen are indeed stronger. I understand some people may want to comment things such as "This is obvious" or "I already knew that" But surprisingly a lot of people do not, and people may have even switched up after this chapter, but believe me there are people who still believe this to be the case even after this chapter. So this is meant for THOSE people. I like to lay out a logical argument with evidence so that if someone disagrees I can direct them to this.