General & Others Why Wano worst arc among all ?

[mrtsrdr]

Pre onishgama was waste of time. ( except Odens past)
Biggest war doesn't mean epic arc.
Unnecessary characters and fun service in Wano arc. ( still I don't figure out why BM and Marco is at there. If they did not come to war , nothing changed) ).
No consistency during the onishgama.

There is my list .

Do you think wano is worst arc ?

 

[Monkey D Theories]

I think dressrosa was by far the worst arc. Oda took what should have been a set up arc for kaido and stretched it into an ungodly 100 chapter long monstrosity.

• huge amount of focus to irrelevant side characters
• repetitive, boring, arc structure
• Shitty reveals(ex. making Sabo Ace 2.0)

 

[KageFumi]

There's called wci ya know. The worst arc ever.

 

[Jailer]

I think dressrosa was by far the worst arc. Oda took what should have been a set up arc for kaido and stretched it into an ungodly 100 chapter long monstrosity.

• huge amount of focus to irrelevant side characters
• repetitive, boring, arc structure
• Shitty reveals(ex. making Sabo Ace 2.0)

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[mrtsrdr]

I think dressrosa was by far the worst arc. Oda took what should have been a set up arc for kaido and stretched it into an ungodly 100 chapter long monstrosity.

• huge amount of focus to irrelevant side characters
• repetitive, boring, arc structure
• Shitty reveals(ex. making Sabo Ace 2.0)

Ah you right. I remembered irrevelant story for each member of Doff family. It was about to kill me .d But irrevelant character is much less than Wano.
How many chapter we read Tama . ? that is so boring. Dross Ace 2.0 was made . I said finally we saved from Ace backstory. And Wano again Ace .
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There's called wci ya know. The worst arc ever.

At wci , story was strong . We mostly watched action . Not necessary plotting. After PS . WCI is one of the best arc. maybe best in terms of consistency.
Sanji did not have so much power up.
Luffy faced YC Commanders before Kaido.
It was good.
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Dressrosa WCI and Wano are three of the worst arcs I have ever read in any manga. My god seriously fuck Wano so much. The writing is so bad. Yonkos where hyped to oblivion and yet we have a stupid “a walking plot device wedding cake” character and another meat head with absolutely no personality. Yonkos are shit! The one Piece is going to be shit! The void century is going to be shit! Just look at how Oda handled the Yonkos , do y’all have any confidence that the void century or one piece will be any better?

sorry for cursing but man I fucking hate this arc. Can’t wait to drop this manga once this arc is finished.

we share same feeling for Wano.
Formetly , i impresssed Yonkou level. Even if Kid and Law stands agains BM anymore. .d.d.d Oda break all wall .d

 

[Finalbeta]

Wano makes WCI look like a miserable mess in my opinion.

 

[Herrera95]

I think WCI still beating Wano as worst arc. But Wano still have time to make itself the worst.
If raid succeed I guess Wano will become the worst. If raid fails I think it may become slighty better than what we think now.

 

[vikas]

Wano is already Worst Arc for me. WCI was also shit. But for the most part it was decent. I can't say that to wano. Given its importance in story(hyping for such a long time, having a build up from PH but all we got a pile of shit.)

 

[mrtsrdr]

I think WCI still beating Wano as worst arc. But Wano still have time to make itself the worst.
If raid succeed I guess Wano will become the worst. If raid fails I think it may become slighty better than what we think now.

At least, WCI avoid unnecessary plotting and presented strong backround story. And we didn't see any nonsense AP and miracle thing. Most important thing is we did not come across any unnecessary character.


But Wano arc , we always see miracle things . We have seen some AP that don't have origin. Unnecessary character. ( Why BM , Marco at there ? )

WCI is more consistent than Wano
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Wano is already Worst Arc for me. WCI was also shit. But for the most part it was decent. I can't say that to wano. Given its importance in story(hyping for such a long time, having a build up from PH but all we got a pile of shit.)

That's what I try to say. At least wci is decent . Wano is full of fun service .

 

[Jew D. Boy]

I don’t know, there are probably a few reasons why it seems like this arc blows:

• We’re late in the series, and the audience is as tired of all the teasing with no short-term payoff as the author is tired of pretending that’s not what he’s doing
• In typical Oda fashion, he’s still creating more loose ends than he’s resolving at a time in which he says the story is reaching its climax
• There are too many combatants to know what to do with; half of them are too strong for the others, and we keep switching back and forth so much it’s difficult to even know where everyone IS, let alone what they’re doing
• The whole “Marineford 2.0” thing is still casting its extraordinarily long shadow, which just further highlights the contrast between that arc and this one
• Everybody on this forum is bitter and impatient in general

I get the feeling that Wano will be much more enjoyable when taken as a whole, the pacing problems are harder to notice when you can consume the entire arc at once instead of trying to contend with Oda’s nauseating scene changes on a (sometimes) weekly basis. Also, I have famously spoken out against WCI as the worst arc in the series, and until further notice, that’s still my strongest held opinion.

 

[Zenos7]

The whole “Marineford 2.0” thing is still casting its extraordinarily long shadow, which just further highlights the contrast between that arc and this one

"marineford 2.0" wasnt even about wano iirc.

 

[mrtsrdr]

I don’t know, there are probably a few reasons why it seems like this arc blows:

• We’re late in the series, and the audience is as tired of all the teasing with no short-term payoff as the author is tired of pretending that’s not what he’s doing
• In typical Oda fashion, he’s still creating more loose ends than he’s resolving at a time in which he says the story is reaching its climax
• There are too many combatants to know what to do with; half of them are too strong for the others, and we keep switching back and forth so much it’s difficult to even know where everyone IS, let alone what they’re doing
• The whole “Marineford 2.0” thing is still casting its extraordinarily long shadow, which just further highlights the contrast between that arc and this one
• Everybody on this forum is bitter and impatient in general

I get the feeling that Wano will be much more enjoyable when taken as a whole, the pacing problems are harder to notice when you can consume the entire arc at once instead of trying to contend with Oda’s nauseating scene changes on a (sometimes) weekly basis. Also, I have famously spoken out against WCI as the worst arc in the series, and until further notice, that’s still my strongest held opinion.

For Wano, ı dont agree biter and impatient . Nobody force Oda to include all character into Wano arc. Even though wano arc is about the finish , we have lots of question about tons of topic.

End of the WCI , arc has been finished clear and all stones is put its place. No miracle , no unnecessary plotting , no extreme power for crew .
At wano, chopper medicine , why BM at there ? Let us say okey to become there. Why Oda use mother feelings bullshit ? To match law and kid , BM brought there. worst plus worst writing. If this is new generation fight , why marco come there ? to die ? 25 years righ hand of WB is wasting . These are just small part of bullshit. actually we are so patıent for this bad writing.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

"marineford 2.0" wasnt even about wano iirc.

Fair, I guess that’s a misnomer for what he said about the final arc, some of us misconstrued it as being about this one. Even if he didn’t use that verbiage, though, we’ve been told that Wano would be one of the more consequential and eventful arcs in the series since long before it began, so the comparisons to the other “big war where huge secrets are revealed and some important people possibly die” arc in the story are inevitable; in those terms, they’re similar, but I remember being a lot more enthralled with Marineford week-to-week than I have been at points in this arc.

For Wano, ı dont agree biter and impatient . Nobody force Oda to include all character into Wano arc. Even though wano arc is about the finish , we have lots of question about tons of topic.

End of the WCI , arc has been finished clear and all stones is put its place. No miracle , no unnecessary plotting , no extreme power for crew .
At wano, chopper medicine , why BM at there ? Let us say okey to become there. Why Oda use mother feelings bullshit ? To match law and kid , BM brought there. worst plus worst writing. If this is new generation fight , why marco come there ? to die ? 25 years righ hand of WB is wasting . These are just small part of bullshit. actually we are so patıent for this bad writing.

I agree about the character thing and have said as much elsewhere, as well as the dangling plot threads. As far as the WCI stuff, nothing’s gonna convince me to change my mind, that whole thing could and SHOULD have been done differently.

 

[Formerly Seth]

Pre onishgama was waste of time. ( except Odens past)
Biggest war doesn't mean epic arc.
Unnecessary characters and fun service in Wano arc. ( still I don't figure out why BM and Marco is at there. If they did not come to war , nothing changed) ).
No consistency during the onishgama.

There is my list .

Do you think wano is worst arc ?

Unnecessary characters and wasting so much precious page time on them which no one gives fuck about.

No consistency, terrible pacing, fake hype, making another Yonko crew look like a moving circus.

I can go all day on this.

But people above me mentioned the most important stuff.

Fuck this arc.

WCI was better and WCI wasn't good either.

I don't care.

 

[garciajulieen]

Everybody on this forum is bitter and impatient in general

It is actually understandable for fans to be bitter and impatient. I mean how can we be patient when its super obvious that the arc is intentionally dragged where everybody somehow has insane regeneration even for an enemy such as Kanjurou. The plot could have been completed way earlier. And thats just an example. I somehow feel like i am not respected by Oda as a reader. Even for a shonen manga as standard. And i normally have a lot of patiences. Hopefuly there won't be too much flaws anymore.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

It is actually understandable for fans to be bitter and impatient. I mean how can we be patient when its super obvious that the arc is intentionally dragged where everybody somehow has insane regeneration even for an enemy such as Kanjurou. The plot could have been completed way earlier. And thats just an example. I somehow feel like i am not respected by Oda as a reader. Even for a shonen manga as standard. And i normally have a lot of patiences. Hopefuly there won't be too much flaws anymore.

I was including myself in that bit, to be clear. I’ve also said in multiple other threads that we have good reason to feel that way, for the reasons you said and quite a few others. That disrespect is something I’ve felt often since the timeskip, so I know what you mean

 

[garciajulieen]

I was including myself in that bit, to be clear. I’ve also said in multiple other threads that we have good reason to feel that way, for the reasons you said and quite a few others. That disrespect is something I’ve felt often since the timeskip, so I know what you mean

Yea its even more sad to know that Oda turns blind eye to constructive criticism. I mean i am pretty sure he knows what his fans feel.

 

[matt245]

Also, I have famously spoken out against WCI as the worst arc in the series, and until further notice, that’s still my strongest held opinion.

Why do you think that? What makes you say "it's the worst"?

 

[nik87]

Wano is awesome, will be my favorite for sure.

 

[сука]

Lik