Current Events Why was Marco not recognised as Yonko/Candidate?

#45
Because Marco doesn't have a crew and pretty much retired after losing to Teach.

The Whitebeard pirates following Marco's lead to take revenge doesn't mean they'll make him their new Captain. While Marco is strong I doubt he has what it takes to make such a large and powerful group follow him as the Emperors do. Maybe he could build up a group of his own but it'll probably take time.
 
#47
"Of the pirate CANDIDATES for the four emperors...he is the frontrunner."
"Only the remaining four emperors themselves could possibly defeat him...and maybe marco the phoenix with whitebeards crew"


So they are using plural here, candidateS for the four emperors. They are talking about how BB is the frontrunner among the multiple candidateS there are. Then they mention how only the remaining emperors can possibly defeat him, and maybe marco+wb pirates. So there are other pirates that are candidates for the four emperors that the gorosei dont even think could by any chance defeat BB, but they think there is a chance for marco+wb pirates yet he isnt a candidate?

sounds pretty weird.
 
#51
"Of the pirate CANDIDATES for the four emperors...he is the frontrunner."
"Only the remaining four emperors themselves could possibly defeat him...and maybe marco the phoenix with whitebeards crew"


So they are using plural here, candidateS for the four emperors. They are talking about how BB is the frontrunner among the multiple candidateS there are. Then they mention how only the remaining emperors can possibly defeat him, and maybe marco+wb pirates. So there are other pirates that are candidates for the four emperors that the gorosei dont even think could by any chance defeat BB, but they think there is a chance for marco+wb pirates yet he isnt a candidate?

sounds pretty weird.
Pretty much all pirates in the New world were candidates... even if most of them had no chance.
 
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#56
"Of the pirate CANDIDATES for the four emperors...he is the frontrunner."
"Only the remaining four emperors themselves could possibly defeat him...and maybe marco the phoenix with whitebeards crew"


So they are using plural here, candidateS for the four emperors. They are talking about how BB is the frontrunner among the multiple candidateS there are. Then they mention how only the remaining emperors can possibly defeat him, and maybe marco+wb pirates. So there are other pirates that are candidates for the four emperors that the gorosei dont even think could by any chance defeat BB, but they think there is a chance for marco+wb pirates yet he isnt a candidate?

sounds pretty weird.
They didnt think Marco is a candidate
They already had doubts "perhaps " he and WBO could beat Teach

Only Teach was candidate to be Yonko..not Marco!
They were sure Teach is the frontrunner among other pirates to be Yonko
They were sure Yonko can beat Teach

But unsure about Marco and WBP

If Marco was top tier...Gorosei wouldn't be unsure
Marco would he frontrunner for Yonko spot or candidate
 
#57
If Marco was top tier...Gorosei wouldn't be unsure
the gorosei was unsure about the yonkos too
Marco would he frontrunner for Yonko spot or candidate
yonko isnt strength baseed, like they said teach knew all of whitebeard territory
atleast marco was in same breath as the yonkos
unlike LatLuri catching L's from yc2 luffy
 
#58
They didnt think Marco is a candidate
They already had doubts "perhaps " he and WBO could beat Teach

Only Teach was candidate to be Yonko..not Marco!
They were sure Teach is the frontrunner among other pirates to be Yonko
They were sure Yonko can beat Teach

But unsure about Marco and WBP

If Marco was top tier...Gorosei wouldn't be unsure
Marco would he frontrunner for Yonko spot or candidate
@bolded: did you miss the part where they are using plural? CandidateS. BB is just a frontrunner among the candidateS, not just pirates in general. And if there are other candidates to become yonko that are not even worth mentioning in regards to people who might defeat blackbeard but marco is mentioned, how are they not considering him a candidate as well?

like for real, did you spend even 2 seconds to read my post?
 
#59
:choppawhat:

According to you guys:
Marco is low top tier/admiral level with a bounty of 1.5B+
You think he can still stalemate FS/current luffy or even win.
Yet he had WB's crew, allies and territories for a year but nobody ever crowned him as Emperor or even Candidate!

the world doesn't even call him Captain but just ex Commander of WBP!

Excluding beating Commanders :
  • Luffy without Yonko ally, Territories and a small crew = Yonko candidate
  • Teach with his crew being weaker (shiryu didnt have a df...others didn't too except those who had already) and lacking allies/fleets like WB had = becomes Yonko after taking territories

This is the same guy who was rivaled/fought many times with Perospero in the past.

So a dude who is above Katakuri /fs Luffy or equal to them, couldn't even be known as Candidate for a year?
Why would the OP world still count vacant the Yonko spot if Marco was really Great as you guys say?

Even with WSS, you got DR Law and DR Zoro being candidates coz they showed amazing cutting feats.

If you use Gorosei words...it doesn't nowhere state Marco as Candidate or Yonko and we know they said "perhaps Marco & remnants ..." and reality hit them hard as they lost badly.
Morgans/WG didn't deem to hype him as a candidate.

Another proof is Wano :
Oda has him failing to dodge Basic grab while SNs are dodging 2 Emperors at once, hurting them yet Marco can't hurt anyone.
Even Retainers did better vs the WSC than Marco + WBP did vs Akainu.
No top tier will be overshadowed in Wano by mid tiers or be treated as some backup support and idea. (Fuji presenve was felt throughout the arc despite not being on the frontline)

It doesn't make sense for Marco to not be Yonko or candidate especially when you see he had everything WB had under him and is so called "top tier".

Either Marco isn't above Katakuri (which is fact as BMP fought WBP with Pero being the one to have fought Marco a lot.)
Or
Marco is a fraud whom the world of OP knows that he has no amazing record and influence in NW

The fact he wasn't even candidate or Yonko despite having everything that makes a Yonko... tells you that Marco was never top tier or whatever you guys claim. (This applies to Doffy too)

Payback War proved that Marco wasn't even close to beng a candidate as he lost badly to Pre Yonko Teach (current Teach is still the weakest Emperor)

One Piece World :
No VA was Admiral candidate except 2 (Tokitake and Gion) but tAkainu stull chose 2 guys (Fuji and GB) from draft over the VAs.
No pirate in NW was Yonko candidate or Yonko level except Gura Teach (this is why Gorosei and pirates kept talking about how he is rising or will take WB's place shortly after MF war.)
No Worstgen is yonko level (including Luffy)
Currenlty, no one is Yonko candidate among SNs and Warlords except Luffy.

@Sentinel @playa4321 @Hades
Because he doesn't have the same influence,territories and people as Whitebeard or Blackbeard. Being strong 1v1 has very little to do with being an Emperor... like i sad, people should stop call them "YoNKoUUUUOU" and start calling them Emperors... why? Because being an Emperor you need to have certain things.
 
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