Speculations Will Blackbeard & Shiryu surpass them

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#4
If Shiryu was going to be anything but a scumbag fighter Oda would have not given him the Invisibility fruit. The only reason he will trouble Zoro at all in their eventual fight is that he will fight dirty. If Oda wanted him to be a straight-up monster he would not have given him his current fruit. Blackbeard might very well surpass Roger by the end of the show but I cant say the same for the Rainman at all.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#8
It's hard to imagine Blackbeard surpassing weapon-focused fighters like Roger and WB but on the other hand, he did say his power absorbs everything, including slashes... We have to see how good it does that but one slash from WB downed him even tho he moved on later without much issue... I think he might receive great power that could make him surpass those two but he would sabotage himself like Moriah did with Shadow Asgard...

Shiryu could be 2nd most dangerous man alive, after Zoro. He was already a monstrous, bloodthirsty swordsman.
And then he became invisible and whatever the Awakening means...
To give you some perspective, imagine if Shanks and Mihawk ate that devil fruit...
 
#9
Shiryu will be high commander lvl dude, but still below an inbetweener like Beckman.

Shiryu and most of the BBPs will thrive on trickery, Oda wouldve given Shiryu a better DF if he were gonna be a serious opponent.
 
#10
ofc
more dangerous than a poison man
got a fruit got stronger during the timeskip
also his sword might eat a df to
he might have acoc to
 
#12
Do you think BB will surpass Whitebeard and Roger? Do you think his #2 Shiryu will surpass their #2 Rayleigh and Oden?
I think they won't, BB is a DF bitch that won't have any decent haki, he might be more powerful but that doesn't mean he wins in a fight and Shiryu won't be as powerful as Ray and Oden, Shiryu is set up to be a fight for Zoro to develop AdCoO and little more.
 
#13
I think they won't, BB is a DF bitch that won't have any decent haki, he might be more powerful but that doesn't mean he wins in a fight and Shiryu won't be as powerful as Ray and Oden, Shiryu is set up to be a fight for Zoro to develop AdCoO and little more.
BB will lose because of his lack of advanced haki.I see future sight saving Luffy from that black hole grab a lot of times.COC+COA=Gura Punch.So i think Luffy has a decent match up vs BB.
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
#14
Do you think BB will surpass Whitebeard and Roger? Do you think his #2 Shiryu will surpass their #2 Rayleigh and Oden?
Feel like even EoS Akainu will probably surpass Prime Garp if he didn't yet so it makes sense for Teach to surpass Roger level also depending on the opponent he faces
 
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