Speculations Will Blackbeard & Shiryu surpass them

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#22
What is left for Luffy is to hone his haki.BB still needs to display any form of advanced haki.If he can awaken all his DF he will be a monster.
 
#25
I see BB having quite decent or even very advanced haki to be honest. His downfall will be his ego, overconfidence.

Shiryu will be above all other swordsmen past or present. Shonen Logic.
 
#26
I see BB having quite decent or even very advanced haki to be honest. His downfall will be his ego, overconfidence.

Shiryu will be above all other swordsmen past or present. Shonen Logic.
I can't imagine BB not having insane conq. haki. The man has cooked up his dream for so long, his mentality is unmatched so far in the series. He's also a D. for some reason, with connections to Xebec.
 
#30
Teach > any pirate that ever sailed
Shiryu ~ Admirals =< Akainu =< Oden
Teach should be above Roger and about equal to Rocks by the end, true.

Akainu should be above Oden, Shiryu and the admirals.

Shiryu should be above Oden and the admirals.

Oden should be able to defeat some admirals and lose to some. He is not above all of them but won't lose to all of them either. Perhaps win 2 lose 2.

Teach>Akainu>Shiryu>Oden≈Admirals
 
#31
Teach should be above Roger and about equal to Rocks by the end, true.

Akainu should be above Oden, Shiryu and the admirals.

Shiryu should be above Oden and the admirals.

Oden should be able to defeat some admirals and lose to some. He is not above all of them but won't lose to all of them either. Perhaps win 2 lose 2.

Teach>Akainu>Shiryu>Oden≈Admirals
He knows that, there's no BB the strongest Pirate ever and his Rayleigh is weaker than Oden the 3rd wheel on Roger's crew or weaker than Admirals, he's still angry that his self inserts can't use haki and will never be top tier. :suresure:
BB and Shiryu will either be the strongest Captain and N°2 or they'll both be frauds. :myman:
 
#34
Like Shiryu, right? Just like the other BP have better fruits than King. :saden:
Yup! It doesn't matter if king have inferior DF, he's a Lunarian btw

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Bigmom Pirates
Haki Mastery > BP, BBP
Beasts Pirates
Race > BMP, BBP
Blackbeard Pirates
Devil Fruits > BMP, BP
 
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