Speculations will Garling be no.5 or no.0 Gorosei?

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#26
Since he was always below the Gorosei before one of them committed treason, he would be number 5, pretty obvious.
Saturn didn't commit treason unless you're referring to the Emeth case, it was simply a case of Imu pulling a Vader - "you have failed me for the last time".

Garling on the other hand likely has ambitions that surpass the Gorousei spot, wether that's a new reformed WG with him on the Empty Throne or the old WG with Imu still in charge, him 2nd and the Gorousei next taking over the entire world remains to be seen.
 
#27
Saturn didn't commit treason unless you're referring to the Emeth case, it was simply a case of Imu pulling a Vader - "you have failed me for the last time".
Well the robot thing is treason though. Saturn was told to get rid of it, but kept it around.

Garling on the other hand likely has ambitions that surpass the Gorousei spot, wether that's a new reformed WG with him on the Empty Throne or the old WG with Imu still in charge, him 2nd and the Gorousei next taking over the entire world remains to be seen.
What is this based on? Nothing he´s done in the story indicates he wants some great change in the government structure, let alone Imu´s position. In fact, his job is if anything, crushing celestial dragon rebellion.
 
#28
It's a fucked order then
Warcury is also below Nusjuro in that order
And Nusjuro below Peter
Peter doesn't give the energy of the strongest Gorosei.
That's my point, the numbers aren't mean to be a strength hierarchy
The fact that the Elders summoning circles have numbers but the God's Knights don't, does at least confirm that those numbers do mean something.

The question is, if the number ranking is based on power level or something else.

Those into agendas and power level discussions will say that the ranking is based on power level, and that could still be the case.

But I also do think that the ranking could be more based on the order that they became Elders, and not power ranking like some may believe.

If it is the latter and it's based on who joined first, then the ranking might go from oldest to youngest.

If that's the case, then that would mean that Ju Peter is the oldest member and not the youngest.

Which is something I could maybe see Oda do, the youngest looking Elder is actually the oldest, while Saturn who is the oldest looking member is actually the youngest.
 
#30
The fact that the Elders summoning circles have numbers but the God's Knights don't, does at least confirm that those numbers do mean something.

The question is, if the number ranking is based on power level or something else.

Those into agendas and power level discussions will say that the ranking is based on power level, and that could still be the case.

But I also do think that the ranking could be more based on the order that they became Elders, and not power ranking like some may believe.

If it is the latter and it's based on who joined first, then the ranking might go from oldest to youngest.

If that's the case, then that would mean that Ju Peter is the oldest member and not the youngest.

Which is something I could maybe see Oda do, the youngest looking Elder is actually the oldest, while Saturn who is the oldest looking member is actually the youngest.
I know they mean something, they have to mean something, but it's definitely not a power hierarchy.
Anyway, you're correct, it can only really be about join orders. I personally think Saturn is actually the oldest but I'm not certain about that.
 
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#32
No5 because the numbers don't have anything to do with strength or status. All Gorousei are equal on paper.
I initially thought their numbers were referring to the order of planets in the solar system (since Saturn is 5 and Venus is 2) but that quickly got debunked when the anime revealed Jupiter is 1.

On the other hand, their numbers perfectly correspond to which chair they sit at in Marijoa.

From left to right:
1- Jupiter 2- Venus 3- Topman 4- Mars 5- Saturn



And likewise, when Oda paneled them together, he had the same order of their chair positions too:



So yeah, Garling will be number 5 since he sits at Saturn’s chair now.
 
#34
No5 because the numbers don't have anything to do with strength or status. All Gorousei are equal on paper.
Nope.
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I initially thought their numbers were referring to the order of planets in the solar system (since Saturn is 5 and Venus is 2) but that quickly got debunked when the anime revealed Jupiter is 1.

On the other hand, their numbers perfectly correspond to which chair they sit at in Marijoa.

From left to right:
1- Jupiter 2- Venus 3- Topman 4- Mars 5- Saturn



And likewise, when Oda paneled them together, he had the same order of their chair positions too:



So yeah, Garling will be number 5 since he sits at Saturn’s chair now.
And is the weakest.
 
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