Break Week Will Loki be Luffys strongest enemy so far ?

#23
Absolutely. Loki's hype is off the charts. Regardless of what the fandom may think of individual giants' strength, each and every one of them is far superior to common soldiers from other races. We've seen what Giant warrior pirates did to Kizaru's armada, and there was only a few of them.

Now imagine an entire country of giant warriors, likely hundreds of them being required to restrain Loki, that's extreme hype. Even if the majority of them aren't beyond veteran level, that still makes Elbaf by far the most powerful island/country and Loki by far the most powerful giant.

Add on top of that a devil fruit that was specifically hyped as legendary, likely being mythical zoan of norse origin, and the specific potrayal of Loki as the harbringer of ragnarok, it definitely means that Loki is endgame threat.

Who exactly is supposed to be on Elbaf that is stronger than Loki when entirety of Elbaf's warriors were required to restrain Loki? I'm sure if someone like that existed they would have been mentioned.

So yeah, I'm betting on Loki being on general level of yonkou's and personally hoping that he's stronger than Kaidou.
The giants have been frauds for most part let it be hajrudin or kashi. Only dorry and broggy have been impressive.
 
#24
Absolutely. Loki's hype is off the charts. Regardless of what the fandom may think of individual giants' strength, each and every one of them is far superior to common soldiers from other races. We've seen what Giant warrior pirates did to Kizaru's armada, and there was only a few of them.

Now imagine an entire country of giant warriors, likely hundreds of them being required to restrain Loki, that's extreme hype. Even if the majority of them aren't beyond veteran level, that still makes Elbaf by far the most powerful island/country and Loki by far the most powerful giant.

Add on top of that a devil fruit that was specifically hyped as legendary, likely being mythical zoan of norse origin, and the specific potrayal of Loki as the harbringer of ragnarok, it definitely means that Loki is endgame threat.

Who exactly is supposed to be on Elbaf that is stronger than Loki when entirety of Elbaf's warriors were required to restrain Loki? I'm sure if someone like that existed they would have been mentioned.

So yeah, I'm betting on Loki being on general level of yonkou's and personally hoping that he's stronger than Kaidou.
5-yeard old Linlin was hyped up as a Demon by the country of the strongest army after wiping out a single Elbaf village

Hated so much they refused to utter her name after all was said and done

Oda has a lot to work on to bring back the reputation of the Giants relative to Yonkos cuz right now it’s trash
 

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#26
I'd say in terms overall no, not close, Loki wont even be a true "enemy" like Kaido. In terms overall Loki will be on the lowend totem pole id say theyd just spar at best, no winner. if Shanks hasnt taken out Loki he isnt actually malice or evil and Luffy hasnt sensed that either from him.
  • Kaido
  • Katakuri/Lucci rnd1
  • Joker
  • Croc
  • Lucci Egghead/Cracker
that would be in terms of strength, stakes and adversity luffy had to go through to beat his opponents and just hard fought battles overall.
 
#27
5-yeard old Linlin was hyped up as a Demon by the country of the strongest army after wiping out a single Elbaf village

Hated so much they refused to utter her name after all was said and done

Oda has a lot to work on to bring back the reputation of the Giants relative to Yonkos cuz right now it’s trash
Nothing surprising there, Linlin was always an anomaly and she might even have giants' blood in herself. The destruction of one tiny village can't really compare to the entire kingdom, especially because she herself was keen to ally with the giants to gain yonkou-breaking power. She obviously holds giants in high regard as otherwise why not just conquer them and rule by fear like Kaido did?

Eveything gets retconned as story progresses, including power levels.
 
#28
Nothing surprising there, Linlin was always an anomaly and she might even have giants' blood in herself. The destruction of one tiny village can't really compare to the entire kingdom, especially because she herself was keen to ally with the giants to gain yonkou-breaking power. She obviously holds giants in high regard as otherwise why not just conquer them and rule by fear like Kaido did?
Linlin is considered a natural born monster, narratively she is no Giant but found a place among them cuz of this monster trait. She is 100% human thru and thru

What I am saying is that Giant hype was sacrificed for Linlin hype at the time. Oda didn’t need to do them that dirty but he basically did by making 5-year old Linlin rampage thru a village and implying she would cause far more destruction had they not given her Selma. That’s a bad look for Giants regardless

Oda also kinda shat on Loki by making him a political pawn in BM’s alliance plans. She has met him and all could think of was the army, not Loki himself who is apparently strong enough that needed the entire country to be restrained

Eveything gets retconned as story progresses, including power levels.
Sure. That’s why I specifically said Oda has a LOT of work to do to bring back their reputation
 
#29
Tbh loki does have very good hype. He has legendary DF and his scream alone was shaking elbaph. Then it needed all of ebaph's power to restrain him and he is bound to have adv coc is he is any major villain. We shall see whether he surpasses Kaido or not.
 
#30
Linlin is considered a natural born monster, narratively she is no Giant but found a place among them cuz of this monster trait. She is 100% human thru and thru

What I am saying is that Giant hype was sacrificed for Linlin hype at the time. Oda didn’t need to do them that dirty but he basically did by making 5-year old Linlin rampage thru a village and implying she would cause far more destruction had they not given her Selma. That’s a bad look for Giants regardless

Oda also kinda shat on Loki by making him a political pawn in BM’s alliance plans. She has met him and all could think of was the army, not Loki himself who is apparently strong enough that needed the entire country to be restrained


Sure. That’s why I specifically said Oda has a LOT of work to do to bring back their reputation
We'll agree to disagree. Time will tell.
 
#33
Linlin is considered a natural born monster, narratively she is no Giant but found a place among them cuz of this monster trait. She is 100% human thru and thru

What I am saying is that Giant hype was sacrificed for Linlin hype at the time. Oda didn’t need to do them that dirty but he basically did by making 5-year old Linlin rampage thru a village and implying she would cause far more destruction had they not given her Selma. That’s a bad look for Giants regardless

Oda also kinda shat on Loki by making him a political pawn in BM’s alliance plans. She has met him and all could think of was the army, not Loki himself who is apparently strong enough that needed the entire country to be restrained


Sure. That’s why I specifically said Oda has a LOT of work to do to bring back their reputation
Oda didnt shit on Loki its just your Big Mom wank that is clouding your judgment.

Loki was the one who came first and proposed Lola not other way around.

Lola rejected and Big Mom tried to cheat him with Chiffon instead of Lola which Loki rejected. If anything Loki shit on Big Mom by not being fooled by her attempt at trickery and ruining her plans for Giants army.
 
#34
Oda didnt shit on Loki its just your Big Mom wank that is clouding your judgment.

Loki was the one who came first and proposed Lola not other way around.

Lola rejected and Big Mom tried to cheat him with Chiffon instead of Lola which Loki rejected. If anything Loki shit on Big Mom by not being fooled by her attempt at trickery and ruining her plans for Giants army.
BM didn't once gush over Loki's power and only the strength of the Elbaf army. Same arc where she hyped Kaido as that thing that could never be beaten

Same arc where 5-year old Linlin made an Elbaf village with legendary old warriors her ragdolls. That's the equivalent of trashing the Garps and Sengokus of Elbaf

On top of that Oda shat on Loki's overall portrayal by making him a bitchless reject in a world where women always tend to chase after the powerful men not the other way around. For an uglyass hoe like Lola of all women lmfao

Oda redeemed Loki a bit by upgrading his dweebass silhouette to a giant badass. But he still has long ways to go
 
#35
BM didn't once gush over Loki's power and only the strength of the Elbaf army. Same arc where she hyped Kaido as that thing that could never be beaten

Same arc where 5-year old Linlin made an Elbaf village with legendary old warriors her ragdolls. That's the equivalent of trashing the Garps and Sengokus of Elbaf

On top of that Oda shat on Loki's overall portrayal by making him a bitchless reject in a world where women always tend to chase after the powerful men not the other way around. For an uglyass hoe like Lola of all women lmfao

Oda redeemed Loki a bit by upgrading his dweebass silhouette to a giant badass. But he still has long ways to go
Oda never established Loki power levels in that arc so stop reaching , also all those events killing his father , getting legendary devil fruit being captured by entire giant army did happen after proposal so not even Big Mom had info about Loki power .

Loki not getting bitch he desired has nothing to do with his power levels.

Only one who got shit in power terms was Big Mom, the moment Shanks one shot guy who defeated her with Law lmao.
 
#36
Will he be stronger than Kaido or Big Mom? No
Will he be tricky and pose an obstacle? Maybe

One Piece doesnt always follow power levels arc after arc. Over time, yes, the villains get stronger but often enough there are minor/lesser villains in between. A few examples below

Arlong > Whiskey Peak, Mr 5, Mr 3. Crocodile surpassed him

Crocodile > Bellamy, perhaps even Enel if Croc had haki while Enel didnt and couldnt hurt logia Croc
 
#38
Oda never established Loki power levels in that arc so stop reaching , also all those events killing his father , getting legendary devil fruit being captured by entire giant army did happen after proposal so not even Big Mom had info about Loki power .

Loki not getting bitch he desired has nothing to do with his power levels.

Only one who got shit in power terms was Big Mom, the moment Shanks one shot guy who defeated her with Law lmao.
BM met the chump and concluded the Elbaf army was her prize. Loki was just a pawn in her plans whether you cry about it or not

I said overall portrayal buddy. That means character and appeal which I remind you is one of OP’s biggest strengths. Imagine Whitebeard being rejected by an ugly hag like Buckingham. No reader would increase their respect for his ass

Shanks got his arm bitten off by Lor D. Coast lmfao. Shanks’ AP might be better than BM but his durability is shit. BM was also fighting against plot armor since she literally KOd Law and Kidd first time around and were spared by their crew
 
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