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Will Loki be a villain?


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#83
All characters of which we knew almost everything even before their arc started, and still they were villains.
Also Loki has been teased since WCI, it's not like Oda suddenly introduced him out of nowhere at the beginning of Elbaf and dumped his background.

If Loki really was the main villain, we wouldn’t learn so much about him so quickly. Oda wouls normally write it like this:

1. Just reveal that Loki is the “shame of Elbaf” in this chapter, and leave it a mystery as to why.
2. Mention a few chapters later that King Harald was assassinated
3. Reveal a few chapters afterwards that Loki was the one who killed him.

It’s weird that Oda revealed all these things about Loki in the same chapter, and the first proper Elbaf chapter at that, if he’s the main villain
We don't know how any of these things happened though
We knew Oden was defeated by Kaido and that Orochi and him took over Wano before the arc even started but the exact circumstances were only known much later.
 
#86
Why would Luffy ally with a guy who killed his own father?
Unless this is a case of of Kingslayer and Mad King or Loki being framed for it, it wont happen, imo.
Loki was in love with Lola, who also disobeyed her parent

perhaps Harold was not too different from BM

Also Luffy doesn’t care. His idol Shanks, is a murderer.
 
#88
the shackled up Loki reminding me of Oars on thriller barc a little when we saw him frozen up in chains. (Of course, Loki looks way more badass than the lifeless Oars in chains).

This scene is Luffy talking to his evil reflection. The roar sounds bring Luffy into this one to one meeting like it's destined to happen. Both of them are Sun God of Elbaph and have an axe on their back. On their objective, Loki wants to bring an end to world while Luffy wants to free the world from chaos.

Loki sorta parallel of Oars from Thriller Bark because
-They are both chained up in freezing cold temperature.
-Oars have Luffy's shadow in him while Loki portrait himself as the Sun God which belongs to Luffy.
-Both have horns.
-Oars with Luffy's shadow is the strongest enemy in Thriller Bark which can mean the same to Loki in Elbaph.

Oars is just a villain in Thriller Bark, the main villain is Moria and he is weaker than Oars which means the main villain of Elbaph is someone else. There are other characters who were mentioned before entering Elbaph like the guy sitting on the shore and the Elbaf guy mentioned by Broggy, they are likely the candidates of being the main villain.

Therefore Loki is likely a villain, Luffy will defeat him and he will somehow become good.

I believe he will turn into good person because of the broken left horn. Left side wounds are said to be a reference of Amaterasu and all good guys have left sided wounds. Maybe all except Saturn, I don't know why.
 
#89

This scene is Luffy talking to his evil reflection. The roar sounds bring Luffy into this one to one meeting like it's destined to happen. Both of them are Sun God of Elbaph and have an axe on their back. On their objective, Loki wants to bring an end to world while Luffy wants to free the world from chaos.

Loki sorta parallel of Oars from Thriller Bark because
-They are both chained up in freezing cold temperature.
-Oars have Luffy's shadow in him while Loki portrait himself as the Sun God which belongs to Luffy.
-Both have horns.
-Oars with Luffy's shadow is the strongest enemy in Thriller Bark which can mean the same to Loki in Elbaph.

Oars is just a villain in Thriller Bark, the main villain is Moria and he is weaker than Oars which means the main villain of Elbaph is someone else. There are other characters who were mentioned before entering Elbaph like the guy sitting on the shore and the Elbaf guy mentioned by Broggy, they are likely the candidates of being the main villain.

Therefore Loki is likely a villain, Luffy will defeat him and he will somehow become good.

I believe he will turn into good person because of the broken left horn. Left side wounds are said to be a reference of Amaterasu and all good guys have left sided wounds. Maybe all except Saturn, I don't know why.
:crazwhat:
 
#90
Elbaf has serious ties to the void century / ancient kingdom, their long life spans alone means that to them everything happened just a few generations ago. There's no way Elbaf gets a traditional arc villain, the time of self-contained arcs should be over. Elbaf is THE buildup arc for the final war. I expect lore bombs and more information about Joyboy. What also needs to be explored is the somewhat silly obsession Elbaf giants have with calling themselves the sun God because it opens a few important questions: is there currently a real person in Elbaf with the official title of sun God? Or is it just a way to say 'I am badass'? Or does it stem from their desire to see the current world end which necessitates a sungod?
 
#91
If Loki really was the main villain, we wouldn’t learn so much about him so quickly. Oda wouls normally write it like this:

1. Just reveal that Loki is the “shame of Elbaf” in this chapter, and leave it a mystery as to why.
2. Mention a few chapters later that King Harald was assassinated
3. Reveal a few chapters afterwards that Loki was the one who killed him.

It’s weird that Oda revealed all these things about Loki in the same chapter, and the first proper Elbaf chapter at that, if he’s the main villain
It's not weird at all. It's the same as Kaidos introduction, giving some infornation on his background to build hype.
 
#92
Of course. If Loki is anything as he's in norse mythology, then expect a master manipulator and a liar. Part of Loki's masterful disguise is the fact that he thrives on deception. He even appears as a really handsome man and both men and women find him attractive, not to mention that he wasn't always " evil " to begin with.

I fully expect that he'll persuade Luffy to release him and that he'll continue to pose as the misunderstood " good guy " only to show his real face in the end of the arc.
 
#93
I doubt he's evil. Luffy is like the no1 guy in recognizing someone's true nature, their inner voice.
I don't think Oda would make him chat this casually with Loki while smiling and all, if he would be evil.
Afterall Luffy prolly is also gonna be the one, that will free him, which says a lot.

Right now it seems like Loki got played. Thanks to some kind of revenge agenda he could end up as an antagonist for a certain amount of time though.
 
#95
Shanks is here
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Post Loki fight, another prince of Elbaf, the HajrODIN got one shotted by G2.
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Akainu. Blackbeard is EoS villain.
After his lackeys of Fujitora, Greenbull and Kizaru catching Ls and always failed to capture Straw Hats, he will move himself.

Although I'm not sure this can happen though.
He pussied against far-from-their-prime-days Wanokuni, I doubt he is man enough to do anything against Elbaf.
HajrOdin got one shot by a Post Fishman island Gear 2 Luffy
Impressive feat
 
#96
All you point only make sense if we speak about no top tiers in Elbaf aside Loki.
And that seems not the case, Brogy and Dorry already worth 1.8B and are above the normal Standart Yonkou commander, they could even battle of against the five Gorosei.

Now imagine 1-2 people even stronger than Dorry and Brogy, that would mean two top tiers on Elbaf side.

To add lot of YC and Veteran.
Like 1000 Giants++....
Elbaf is different than Dressrosa, Wano and co.

This is the birthplace of War, the giants don't know anything else rather to fight.

Big Mom hyped the shit of Elbaf, the Navy did it.

Elbaf country is in fact confirmed to be above Big Mom Totland and also above Kaido's wano too.

Yes Kaido had a country under him too, the WG know he was the ruler of Wano with Orochi.

And even wano under Kaido rule was called to be weaker than Elbaf.

Wano had only one Top tier. It was Oden.
In total Oden and his Scabbards(bunch of YC and Veteran lvl dudes) and lot of Samurai.
If you take down Oden, wano is lost against any Yonkou.

That is not the case for Elbaf.
They have most likely 1-3 Top tiers alongside Dorry and Brogy.

One is Loki who got massive hype this chapter. Then you have the King is at least low top mid top tier and the strongest commander who is also a low top tier.

What happen if 4 top tiers(around lower to mid) gang on you? Kaido or Big Mom would also get clapped by it. In fact Big Mom lose to high high/low top tiers too, two Supernova if you can call it.

So if Big Mom can lose to two high high tier/low top tier, with a little help of bombs, Loki can't lose to entire Elbaf Nation with bunch of top tiers and high tiers??

Elbaf Nation without Loki>Any Yonkou crew
Elbaf Nation with Loki>>Any Yonkou crew.

Prepare yourself to get a massive L for underestimate Elbaf.

They couldn't fight the Gorosei, they could stall them.

They didnt do major damage. That aint a testament of power. Great defense and thats it? Lol.

Stop hyping your headcanon. It aint no different than Wano or any arc, people always hyped samurais or minks bla bla bla. Told they were Yc3 all of them and bla bla bla.

Giants are just giants, bigger but normal. Kuma destroyed Oars Jr with a single hit, which is like 2 or 5 times bigger than a giant.

Numbers were being crushed by Veterans.

Child Big Mom destroyed a vIllage.

Normal Giants are just gonna be low tier fighters, aca pre time skip fighters like Buggy lol, reason that they evwn had 100 million berries before, a testament of their power from being giants.

And Dorry and the other might have a higher bounty than Yc1, but I doubt they are stronger overall.
 
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