General & Others Will Zoro become the WSS i.e The Swordsmsn who can defeat Every single swordsman on the planet in combat?

[Erkan12]

If you can't tell the difference between being the strongest at anything and finding Laugh Tale you shouldn't waste your time with reading this series.

One is changeable and not stable, we've seen Oda clearly doesn't care about the titles or hypes, and anything is possible in a fight. While you find Laugh Tale, no one can take it from you again. Even if another person finds it again. One is a feat, other is a hype.

Feat is beating someone. Zoro wants the title, he wants the hype. He doesn't care who he beats as long as he achieves his goal. Mihawk doesn't need to be that person specifically, another person can have that title/hype and Zoro can beat that person.

 

[nik87]

Which one of the Crying Six didnt vote yet?
Only 5 No so far, one is still missing.

 

[Zenos7]

If you can't tell the difference between being the strongest at anything and finding Laugh Tale you shouldn't waste your time with reading this series.

One is changeable and not stable, we've seen Oda clearly doesn't care about the titles or hypes, and anything is possible in a fight. While you find Laugh Tale, no one can take it from you again. Even if another person finds it again. One is a feat, other is a hype.

Feat is beating someone. Zoro wants the title, he wants the hype. He doesn't care who he beats as long as he achieves his goal. Mihawk doesn't need to be that person specifically, another person can have that title/hype and Zoro can beat that person.

who are you adressing with this? lmao

 

[uyuu]

Why do you keep saying “just like in real life” as if theres anything like WSS in real life

Im talking about what Oda intends. Does Oda intend us to say it matters what extra abilties people have?

for example, If Pica BEAT Zoro. If Pica and Zoro fought without Pica using his ahilities and then Zoro pressed him but then Pica activated his golem and Beat Zoro plain and simple and the arc ended.

Are you saying there is a way for Oda to write it that “Zoro achieved his goal of proving hes a better swordsman so he didnt have to actually beat Pica wholesale as long as he can beat him in a regular sword clash”

Are you saying such a situation is possible? That in Oda’s mind, he gives King Shiryu Law Fujitora Cracker Smoothie Big mom ALL these extra abilties while keeping in mind that for some reason were Zoro to fight any of thse people (and he will fight some) that its actually allowed for Zoro to lose as long as he showed some vague superirority in base swprd clashes?

what im asking is will Zoro ever lose to a swordsman inbthe series and then Oda tells us somehow that it doeent matter as long as Zoro could clash when the swordsman decided not to go all out?

"If" Zoro ever lose to a swordsman in the series? Kizaru has beaten Zoro without using his light sword, meaning Kizaru is a swordsman.

There is a WSS in real-life if you make a competition about them, just like the WSS doesn't mean the strongest fighter.

They are swordsman all the time they dont stop being swordsman

1. Mr.1 uses Devil Fruit instead of Sword & yet Zoro called him Swordsman
2. Hyouzou is Strongest Swordsman in Fishmen Island & yet he uses Poison
3. Ohm had a Dog to help him & his weapon change Form & he used Traps & yet he is a Swordsman

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Zoro's trump card is yet unexplained Demon technique

They don't stop being a swordsman, but if their abilities isnt limited to being a swordsman, then they status as a swordsman still not equal as their status as a fighter. Which is why WSM differs and > WSS even if WB use a long-hitled sword called bisento and he beats anyone swords or not.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

If" Zoro ever lose to a swordsman in the series? Kizaru has beaten Zoro without using his light sword, meaning Kizaru is a swordsman.

There is a WSS in real-life if you make a competition about them, just like the WSS doesn't mean the strongest fighter.

What does Kizaru have to do with this?

i asked Can oda somehow convince the readers that Zoro is a better swordsman than a person he lost to just because that pwrson has extra abilities?

did you get the impression that Zoro is a better swordsman than Kizaru? No. Because Zoro lost.

 

[Luffy bin Dragon]

"If" Zoro ever lose to a swordsman in the series? Kizaru has beaten Zoro without using his light sword, meaning Kizaru is a swordsman.

There is a WSS in real-life if you make a competition about them, just like the WSS doesn't mean the strongest fighter.



They don't stop being a swordsman, but if their abilities isnt limited to being a swordsman, then they status as a swordsman still not equal as their status as a fighter. Which is why WSM differs and > WSS even if WB use a long-hitled sword called bisento and he beats anyone swords or not.

A bisento isn't a sword

 

[thedarkdragon11]

Styles make fights... There will always be someone who can counter Zoro's style, one which Oda won't probably write... Being the WSS is not tantamount to being invincible...

 

[stealthblack]

only the ones that are based on actual swordmanship and not magic like law or fujitora

 

[Orojackson Refugee]

who are you adressing with this? lmao

It's for the people living in erkan12's head

 

[Extravlad]

We just need Oda to confirm Roger as a pure swordsman then EoS Zoro > Roger can become a thing

 

[Finalbeta]

We just need Oda to confirm Roger as a pure swordsman then EoS Zoro > Roger can become a thing

Hopefully

I don't feel like Oda would label Roger as a man who wasn't a swordsman, or even have Zoro simply surpass Mihawk without going deeper than that and aim at Prime Ryuma's level (assuming he stood beyond) or Roger's.

It's speculation but a nicely calculated one.

 

[nik87]

We just need Oda to confirm Roger as a pure swordsman then EoS Zoro > Roger can become a thing

We dont need anything. Roger is a swordsman. That has sealed his fate in comparison to Zoro.

 

[Zenos7]

We dont need anything. Roger is a swordsman. That has sealed his fate in comparison to Zoro.

Nope. old viz had kid zoro say "strongest swordsman ever", but some translators here have confirmed "ever" is not part of the raws and stephen paul also doesnt translate it as such.

its yet to see whether oda wants zoro to become the strongest swordsman of all time or only of his lifetime.

 

[nik87]

Nope. old viz had kid zoro say "strongest swordsman ever", but some translators here have confirmed "ever" is not part of the raws and stephen paul also doesnt translate it as such.

its yet to see whether oda wants zoro to become the strongest swordsman of all time or only of his lifetime.

Which one do you think it is?
Is Oda making Zoro into someone that will be in shadow of another swordsman?

 

[Zenos7]

Which one do you think it is?
Is Oda making Zoro into someone that will be in shadow of another swordsman?

ever since i learned that "ever" wasnt part of kid zoros statement, i think its only about becoming the strongest swordsma currently alive.

not saying the other option is impossible though.

 

[nik87]

ever since i learned that "ever" wasnt part of kid zoros statement, i think its only about becoming the strongest swordsma currently alive.

not saying the other option is impossible though.

If you were the writer, would you make your MC_2 be in the shadow of some side character from the past?

 

[Zenos7]

If you were the writer, would you make your MC_2 be in the shadow of some side character from the past?

roger is not "some side character from the past". sounds extremely ridiculous

 

[nik87]

roger is not "some side character from the past". sounds extremely ridiculous

Same question.

 

[Zenos7]

Same question.

the question is pointless anyway

 

[Rocks D. Xebec]

Zoro will be the WSS, i.e., he will be able to defeat any swordsmen in the world in a 1v1 duel, regardless of any other powers they may have. Whether or not Mihawk is actually stronger than Shanks, Big Mom, Fujitora etc. is irrelevant. Zoro will be stronger than all of them.