General & Others With last chapter, can we say Blackbeard is final villain ?

#22
How preparations can be done before elbaf?
through off screen or Cover Pages , like how Oda prepared for Teach's commanders to invade WCI ?
How BB can sort shanks plot and Ancient weapons plot in one arc and then fall in the same arc?
The Plot between shanks and Teach , I don't know if they will fight either Also what makes Oda not using the events that's gonna happen in Elbaf and giving statements that Teach beat shanks ( He can jump him if he wants since he's that guy )
Why BB getting Ancient weapon will play role in his fight against Luffy?
Issue is if he would get it or not and above that, can he control it .

And, as I said, his Lineage goes beyond Xebec. He is linked with D and is marked by imu along with 3 others who are Ds and will play role in fall of Imu
we don't know shit about Xebec's lineage bro ?
You jumped into conclusions before we know what's up .
 
#23
Then why BB is the only character who specifically said "the world" and not just one piece?


The world here encompassing not just one piece but the highest authority - the throne
Must all Characters use the Same Words?
One Piece is just Name that People around the World chose for this Treasure
Roger himself didn't call it "One Piece" when He was Executed
He simply said "My Treasure"

As i said, Roger's Treasure is just what Everyone considers to be "Most Valuable Prize"
They don't care what it is, They simply believe They can Buy whatever They want with it

In Last Chapter, Auger said "The World" meaning that BB Pirates Goal is to "Buy The World"
Which is why i mentioned Sandman's Tweet, as it's Confirmed that Oda was gonna make Roger say the Exact same

But what does BB Pirates mean with "The World"? We don't know that
What We know is that owning One Piece makes you Pirate King & allows you to Buy Anything
And what did Narrator say Pirate King has? Wealth, Fame & Power

Meaning "The World" = Peak Fame + Peak Wealth + Peak Power
And Price for Buying this is finding One Piece Treasure

It's a Story about Pirates, & what do Pirates do? They Plunder & Pillage & take Loot & Steal ... etc
So Pirate King Title automatically goes to anyone who Successfully Plunders The World (It's Price is called One Piece by People)

So Highest Authority isn't Superior than One Piece, it's Part of what One Piece can Buy you, it's only Third of what The World has to offer
One Piece = The World = Being Highest Authority + Most Powerful + Wealthiest

Just like Enel, He took Goro Goro No Mi to become Strongest, Invaded Skypiea to Rule All Sky People & took Shandia's Gold to become Richest, when He combined these Three, what did He Build? (Using his DF, Gold & Authority)
He built Maxim which took him to The Moon (His Real Dream)

Blackbeard is just like Enel
Just replace Goro Goro No Mi with Darkness DF
Replace Skypiea with Mary Geoise
Replace Shandia Treasure with Mary Geoise National Treasure
Replace Maxim with One Piece

So when Blackbeard says "The World", it means that his Plan is:

1. Acquire Strongest DFs (Already Did)
2. Invade Mary Geoise (In Progress)
3. Take their National Treasure (Soon)
4. Claim One Piece using Power, Wealth & Authority He just Acquired
5. Use One Piece to reach his True Dream (Which is still Unknown)

I'm not saying Last Chapter doesn't tease BB possibly being Final Villain, but i'm saying that it didn't reveal BB's True Goal, it simply Teased He has One & how He intends to reach it
 
#24
Then why BB is the only character who specifically said "the world" and not just one piece?


The world here encompassing not just one piece but the highest authority - the throne
I remember the cope about Teach after 1060 saying that Luffy's PK dream is secondary and he got another dream beyond that.

Turns out being PK is also a side quest for Teach's planet dominance, as if it's not literally foreshadowed since Xebec's first mention.

Coconut brains lmao.
 
#25
In my opinion it's still one of two scenarios:

1) Blackbeard is part of the final war against Imu and helps bring the latter down (everyone vs Imu basically), then tries to take over as ruler of the world. That's when the final battle between the SHs and BB pirates for the future of this world happens.

2) Blackbeard gains a lot of intel via Caribou/Devon and causes some mayhem by invading both Fishamn Island and Wano for the ancient weapons. He then reaches Laughtale just at the same time as Luffy and the war for the PK title happens there (who is the true chosen one Roger was waiting for?). Afterwards the winner (aka Luffy) goes into the final war against Imu.
 

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#26
through off screen or Cover Pages , like how Oda prepared for Teach's commanders to invade WCI ?

The Plot between shanks and Teach , I don't know if they will fight either Also what makes Oda not using the events that's gonna happen in Elbaf and giving statements that Teach beat shanks ( He can jump him if he wants since he's that guy )

Issue is if he would get it or not and above that, can he control it .


we don't know shit about Xebec's lineage bro ?
You jumped into conclusions before we know what's up .
I am not reaching though.

I just told you that imu marked 4 persons...3 have linked with void century. So BB will have it as well.

On ancient weapon - come on. Why oda will make SHs carry caribou for ages and then link with BB if he doesn't intend to give BB an Ancient weapon?

And, everyone knows shanks has went after BB and this plot will be resolved.


I don't how how you think all these plots can get resolved during Elbaf and then Luffy will also beat BB in elbaf...lol

Must all Characters use the Same Words?
One Piece is just Name that People around the World chose for this Treasure
Roger himself didn't call it "One Piece" when He was Executed
He simply said "My Treasure"

As i said, Roger's Treasure is just what Everyone considers to be "Most Valuable Prize"
They don't care what it is, They simply believe They can Buy whatever They want with it

In Last Chapter, Auger said "The World" meaning that BB Pirates Goal is to "Buy The World"
Which is why i mentioned Sandman's Tweet, as it's Confirmed that Oda was gonna make Roger say the Exact same

But what does BB Pirates mean with "The World"? We don't know that
What We know is that owning One Piece makes you Pirate King & allows you to Buy Anything
And what did Narrator say Pirate King has? Wealth, Fame & Power

Meaning "The World" = Peak Fame + Peak Wealth + Peak Power
And Price for Buying this is finding One Piece Treasure

It's a Story about Pirates, & what do Pirates do? They Plunder & Pillage & take Loot & Steal ... etc
So Pirate King Title automatically goes to anyone who Successfully Plunders The World (It's Price is called One Piece by People)

So Highest Authority isn't Superior than One Piece, it's Part of what One Piece can Buy you, it's only Third of what The World has to offer
One Piece = The World = Being Highest Authority + Most Powerful + Wealthiest

Just like Enel, He took Goro Goro No Mi to become Strongest, Invaded Skypiea to Rule All Sky People & took Shandia's Gold to become Richest, when He combined these Three, what did He Build? (Using his DF, Gold & Authority)
He built Maxim which took him to The Moon (His Real Dream)

Blackbeard is just like Enel
Just replace Goro Goro No Mi with Darkness DF
Replace Skypiea with Mary Geoise
Replace Shandia Treasure with Mary Geoise National Treasure
Replace Maxim with One Piece

So when Blackbeard says "The World", it means that his Plan is:

1. Acquire Strongest DFs (Already Did)
2. Invade Mary Geoise (In Progress)
3. Take their National Treasure (Soon)
4. Claim One Piece using Power, Wealth & Authority He just Acquired
5. Use One Piece to reach his True Dream (Which is still Unknown)

I'm not saying Last Chapter doesn't tease BB possibly being Final Villain, but i'm saying that it didn't reveal BB's True Goal, it simply Teased He has One & how He intends to reach it
Man that's reach and whatever you said is just your own interpretation


Roger even though called it my treasure but he also called it one piece .

Shanks, luffy .. everyone called it one piece.


Only BB said "The world"

You - it's just one piece....🤦


His idea isn't just to be king but to have his own nation.

His dream is to get "The world"... just link the dots and you will realise he is aiming for whole world in literal sense.

 
#27
Janitor holds him back atm. Zoro wont fight this bum after Mihawk so either they fall earlier or they will be indeed the final group to fight and Zoro wont fight this guy but CG will get involved somehow so he can fight against Mihawk.
 
#28
He can't be the next villain atleast. Before Luffy beats him, Teach has to beat Shanks. Even for that he isn't ready yet. He needs a third Devilfruit for that. I think Orochi's will do it. Akainu will occupy Luffy in the meantime. After Shanks is defeated, and Blackbeard puts the Strawhat on his head, Luffy will forget about the World Government for a while and do everything to take Teach out. Then he becomes Pirateking and prepares a raid on Maryjoa.
 
#29
He can't be the next villain atleast. Before Luffy beats him, Teach has to beat Shanks. Even for that he isn't ready yet. He needs a third Devilfruit for that. I think Orochi's will do it. Akainu will occupy Luffy in the meantime. After Shanks is defeated, and Blackbeard puts the Strawhat on his head, Luffy will forget about the World Government for a while and do everything to take Teach out. Then he becomes Pirateking and prepares a raid on Maryjoa.
In that equation , one of five elder looks very fraud. So I lost my faith about Imu super power :)
 
#30
I am not reaching though.

I just told you that imu marked 4 persons...3 have linked with void century. So BB will have it as well.

On ancient weapon - come on. Why oda will make SHs carry caribou for ages and then link with BB if he doesn't intend to give BB an Ancient weapon?

And, everyone knows shanks has went after BB and this plot will be resolved.


I don't how how you think all these plots can get resolved during Elbaf and then Luffy will also beat BB in elbaf...lol


Man that's reach and whatever you said is just your own interpretation


Roger even though called it my treasure but he also called it one piece .

Shanks, luffy .. everyone called it one piece.


Only BB said "The world"

You - it's just one piece....🤦


His idea isn't just to be king but to have his own nation.

His dream is to get "The world"... just link the dots and you will realise he is aiming for whole world in literal sense.

Your problem is saying "Just" One Piece
It's not my Own Interpretation
You're the one who think becoming King of The World is Superior than One Piece Treasure
When it's just Part of One Piece
 

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Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
#31
Your problem is saying "Just" One Piece
It's not my Own Interpretation
You're the one who think becoming King of The World is Superior than One Piece Treasure
When it's just Part of One Piece
No bro


I am saying that he wants his own kingdom - that kingdom he desires is "The world"


Obviously, one piece is connected to it but to say he just wants to become PK is wrong. His dream goes beyond that just like how luffy has now another dream
 
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#33
Luffy wants to be King of the Sea (aka pirates), as in The Freest.
Teach wants to be King of the World (aka replace WG), as in The Supreme Tyrant.
Both need OP to reach either position.
 
#35
No bro


I am saying that he wants his own kingdom - that kingdom he desires is "The world"


Obviously, one piece is connected to it but to say he just wants to become PK is wrong. His dream goes beyond that just like how luffy has now another dream
That's exactly what i was saying the whole time, are you even reading?

I said Blackbeard wanted to become Strongest, Invade Mary Geoise, take their Treasure, Claim One Piece
And Claim "The World", which is his Secret Dream just like Luffy have a Dream beyond becoming Pirate King
 
#37
One of the standout question about God’s Valley is why Garp and Roger, two characters who we are are clearly meant to think of as “good”, fought against Rocks instead of alongside him, when the Celestial Dragons were there.

If it is Blackbeard that Shanks warned the Celestial Dragons about, then that’s another example of a “good” character choosing the Celestial Dragons over someone who has clearly inherited Rocks’s will.

If Garp, Roger and Shanks are all rationalising the Celestial Dragons as being the lesser evil to Rocks/Blackbeard achieving their dream of being King of the World, then that would be what could make Blackbeard be the final villain. The world the two of them would create is even worse than the world that Imu rules over.

Probably because Imu has created a world that, while terrible, allowing a great deal of corruption and misery and the Celestial Dragons freedom to do whatever evils they like, somewhat balances that with the Marines and locking up people like the Level 6 prisoners.

Blackbeard would do away with any protection that ordinary people have and let everyone act like a Celestial Dragon, because he doesn’t believe that justice or evil exist.
 
#39
King Teach is inevitable
No, it's not inevitable, it only sets up Teach as a contender for the One Piece like the story has been telling us for years
Luffy wants to be King of the Sea (aka pirates), as in The Freest.
Teach wants to be King of the World (aka replace WG), as in The Supreme Tyrant.
Both need OP to reach either position.
This. Blackbeard is not end of series villain, he is the last opponent before Luffy gets the One Piece.

Blackbeard and Luffy both need the One Piece to reach their endgoal.
- Blackbeard -> One Piece -> King of the World and Conquer the World
- Luffy -> One Piece -> Freest

Luffy will defeat Blackbeard and then he will destroy the Red Line and defeat Imu who is opposing his freedom dream.

Freedom will prevail, the Dawn of the World is the Dawn of Freedom.
 
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