Chapter Discussion World Government is the real Endgame

[Roo]

Oda: ''Story is based on fighting against Yonko.''

Oda: ''Story will be finished after finding One Piece.''

Oda added Imu cutting BB's poster amongst with Luffy and Ancient Weapon for a reason.

“It was supposed to be”

Vivi was supposed to be some random fodder and she’s now arguably one of the most important characters in the story. Oda is allowed to change his mind

 

[bluefire12]

Nah Buggy and that "guy" is endgame

 

[Monkey D Theories]

still the dude has no blacken blade:

So I cant see him being the true endgame for Zoro which all his postimeskip road is to defeat the only guy that has at current time a blacken blade and is well know to be the strongest swordman in OP

Dressrosa first mini step for Zoro was with coating you should be ashemed if even a scratch is left on the blade
Then Wano further explain that even top tier pirate like Oden coudnt achive the blacken blade even if he had mounstrous haki and coating conqueror (which Zoro got post Wano), yet Oden's dad stated that Zoro will achieve that
I would take the gorosei guy to further expand this road so that when Zoro vs Mihawk finally clash Zoro knows how to get wado ichimonji a blacken blade

The WG is clearly the endgame. Mihawk is a member of Cross Guild. He is in the race for One Piece. He has to fall before the SHs even face Imu or the Gorosei.

Gandhi doesn't need a black blade, he has an awakened god zoan. That alone probably puts him above Kaido by a significant margin.

 

[JayKitetsu]

Of course, the moment Imu was introduced and sat on the throne he was fated to fight Luffy. I’m just not sure how BB fits into this

 

[Erkan12]

“It was supposed to be”

Vivi was supposed to be some random fodder and she’s now arguably one of the most important characters in the story. Oda is allowed to change his mind

He changed his mind by adding Shichibukai before Yonko.

What is the implication Oda changed his mind from Yonko to Imu being FV? He just revealed Imu's secret to Sabo before even Yonko fall, the fight against the government is already started before the fights against Shanks and BB.

Revolutionaries have a job for a reason, people expect Luffy to stop being a pirate and be a revolutionary.

 

[yorosenpai]

The WG is clearly the endgame. Mihawk is a member of Cross Guild. He is in the race for One Piece. He has to fall before the SHs even face Imu or the Gorosei.

Gandhi doesn't need a black blade, he has an awakened god zoan. That alone probably puts him above Kaido by a significant margin.

I stick with what Oda planned for over 20years for Zoro which is to take down the guy with the strongest blade

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

That doesn't mean we don't need to argue about it.

We just no need pretend It wasn't obvious from a long time ago

 

[GoldDiamond]

marines are defintly not coming before bb or shanks

 

[Roo]

What is the implication Oda changed his mind from Yonko to Imu being FV?

The words “it was supposed to be”

 

[GUI VI]

We just no need pretend It wasn't obvious from a long time ago

I know bro, but I didn't just say: WG will be Endgame, I brought several other factors like Gorosei, Holy Knights to the discussion.

 

[Konstantis]

Younko are filler character that was created just to make feeling of challenge in the battle for One Piece.

Before time skip only WG was Luffy's major enemies: Shichibukai who served WG, Lucci CP9 agent of WG, Magelan and admirals serving WG.
WG was always real enemy, not the Younko.

 

[Erkan12]

The words “it was supposed to be”

You just edited the part that destroyed your headcanon and still repeating the same shit

''He changed his mind by adding Shichibukai before Yonko.''

 

[Monkey D Theories]

I stick with what Oda planned for over 20years for Zoro which is to take down the guy with the strongest blade

Oda changes his mind all the time.


If you look at story progression, Mihawk should fall at the same time as Blackbeard. WSSM and PK are portrayed as parallel goals. Both Mihawk and Teach are in the race for One Piece, meaning the SHs need to beat both of them.

Chances are in elbaf, Luffy beats Teach and becomes the next PK(with the 4th poneglyph of course). Zoro beats Mihawk and becomes WSSM.

Then after that they move on to their final goals. Luffy accomplishes his true goal by beating Imu, Zoro becomes Sword Saint/Sword God by beating Gandhi.

 

[Roo]

You just edited the part that destroyed your headcanon and still repeating the same shit

I edited because it’s pointless and I’m repeating it because I’m not going to keep wasting my time with you. It’s simple English

 

[Seth]

Chapter 1085 hyped WG.
And i starting to think that Oda is portraying the World Government as the true Endgame, and i will explain:

- Egghead Arc

I think Oda made this chapter also in order to prepare a hype for Saturn in Egghead.Perhaps that's why Saturn is going to Egghead, Oda is already starting to build up the Gorosei hype. Maybe we really will have Luffy vs Saturn AND ZORO VS KIZARU, BITCH

The Revolutionary Army

- WG being endgame would be a good opportunity for Dragon to finally reveal his powers and motivations. in addition it would also be the opportunity to see the Revolutionaries being explored more and also Sabo surpassing Dragon, maybe beating one of the Goresei or Holy Knights(better than Sabo vs Akainu).

The Holy Knights.

The Holy Knights were introduced recently and they are almost certainly formidable fighters. Some theorize that Shanks is one of the Holy Knights.

Honestly, Shanks (and maybe his entire crew) being one of the Holy Knights would be awesome, as it would be a way to make Luffy vs Shanks and SHs vs RHP happen...... and also because I like the idea of Shanks being much better a villain than just being Luffy's Jiraiya.

But regardless of who they are, for sure the Holy Knights will be strong and could be possible matchups for SHs.
- The Gorosei

They has been confirmed as DF users, they're probably Mythical Zoans. Well, It's okay but i'm surprised that Gandhi Gorosei is also a DF User.

About the Matchups i think it will be:
• Luffy or Dragon vs Imu
• Zoro vs Gandhi Gorosei( It's kinda obviously)
• Sanji vs Blonde Gorosei
(Gandhi and Blonde Gorosei seems to identical to Zoro and Sanji)
•Maybe Sabo joins in the fight.

- IMU-SAMA IS THE FINAL VILLAIN

Imu Sama seems more and more to be the final villain, and I'll explain why: Unlike Akainu and Blackbeard, Imu Sama is portrayed as a maximum authority and always being seen from the bottom up symbolizing him as an omnipotent being.

Not only that, but he/she also seems to be much more narratively relevant than the others, because if Luffy beat Akainu it would be like: "Okay, Luffy defeated Fleet Admiral, he avenged his brother", or if Luffy beat BB it would be like : "Wow, Luffy beat BB, he is now the strongest pirate". In the case of Imu Sama it would be different.

Imu Sama's defeat would be impactful not only for Luffy or Dragon, but it would also be important for the world of One Piece. secrets would be revealed, the WG would fall, the Tenryubitos would fall, Ponneglhyps, The ancient weapons, etc.

I personally think people underestimate Imu Sama's potential.

-But What about Admirals, Blackbeard and Shanks?

(Forget Big Mom in the image)
- Well, as for them, there is still a possibility of them being the final Villains of course, but I believe they will be finalized before WG. Maybe we still have an arc where Navy will be the main villain, then a BBPs vs SHs arc, and then the final arc would be WG, maybe Shanks will fit in that arc.

Well, I believe that WG is being built to be the great final game of One Piece, do you think so too? yes or no and why?

Post your thoughs here!!

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Sanji won't fight someone as strong as Gorosei. Don't disrespect the top tiers.


I think Admiral or Two may deflect and fight against WG too.

 

[Andy]

Great theory :cheers:

 

[GUI VI]

Sanji won't fight someone as strong as Gorosei. Don't disrespect the top tiers.

@Sir Yasheen @Julius

 

[Sir Yasheen]

@Sir Yasheen @Julius

Said the same thing about Sanji fighting calamities or Sanji being Marco level EOS. Always shown wrong

 

[Erkan12]

I edited because it’s pointless and I’m repeating it because I’m not going to keep wasting my time with you.

- Says I am not going to keep wasting time
- He quoted my post first with his dumb shit

. It’s simple English

So you can't understand simple English? Because Oda literally explains how he changed his mind in that quote: ''by adding Shichibukai'', he explained that. He didn't leave it ambiguous by saying ''oh I was thinking Yonko but now I don't know''

 

[GUI VI]

Great theory :cheers:

Theory? lol, some know-it-alls considered it kind of obvious.