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And whose say good and evil by whose ? you, society, politics, religion ? It is very subjective of saying good and evil by human standards.

Amd you are living in Germany which it is builted in wars.

Beside there are people who think war is good thing since ancient times, ancient tribes do goes war .
Beside history show wars actually created society ironically. French Revolution literally create new nation , new society .

There are people who think Putin is good leader like @Hiragaro , @Zolo . Who determines the actual pure evil ? Subjective by human standards. There are people who think Abraham Lincoln is pure evil . I disagree with them.

Ancient Chinese believe people believe people are born good as baby but it got disproved by actually China history. Chinese wars are deadly as world war .

Of we can go do good as possible. We have go to war if you want to stop enemy . Hitter and we went war to stop him and it is not nautro talk no justice talking point to stop the war.
It is possible for Russia and Ukrainie to fight in war without getting in nations involved. And it don’t result in world war 1,2. African have wars but it don’t result as world war.

I guess we have agree to disagre.
Evil are those who harm innocent civilians.
This is my opinion.
 
They change the tunes because being soilder is harsh reality and be prepared for sneaked attack, traitors, unluckly moment get you killed. Beside we don’t have fighting spirts anymore as we used to have in ww2 era.
Agree with your point.
Most men would rather not be in war because they have no fighting spirt. anymore They went to war for other reasons, benefits. Not because they loved their country.

- They only love the country when there is no war is here.
 
Why is the west so weak? Sanctions? They are threatening Russia with sanctions as they are storming ukraine and killing ukrainians?

They should have just called Putin's stupid WW3 bluff and sent soldiers to the ukrainian border. What do you think Putin would do? Risk MAD for the sake of Ukraine?
 
And whose say good and evil by whose ? you, society, politics, religion ? It is very subjective of saying good and evil by human standards.

Amd you are living in Germany which it is builted in wars.

Beside there are people who think war is good thing since ancient times, ancient tribes do goes war .
Beside history show wars actually created society ironically. French Revolution literally create new nation , new society .

There are people who think Putin is good leader like @Hiragaro , @Zolo . Who determines the actual pure evil ? Subjective by human standards. There are people who think Abraham Lincoln is pure evil . I disagree with them.

Ancient Chinese believe people believe people are born good as baby but it got disproved by actually China history. Chinese wars are deadly as world war .

Of we can go do good as possible. We have go to war if you want to stop enemy . Hitter and we went war to stop him and it is not nautro talk no justice talking point to stop the war.
It is possible for Russia and Ukrainie to fight in war without getting in nations involved. And it don’t result in world war 1,2. African have wars but it don’t result as world war.

I guess we have agree to disagre.
Morals are only relative in the animal Kingdom.Humans killing each other is bad period.We all lose in wars.People literally get mentally sick and might commit suicide if they go to war.Humans killing humans is not how man was intended to live.Ours minds can't accept this.
 
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They change the tunes because being soilder is harsh reality and be prepared for sneaked attack, traitors, unluckly moment get you killed. Beside we don’t have fighting spirts anymore as we used to have in ww2 era.
Agree with your point.
Most men would rather not be in war because they have no fighting spirt. anymore They went to war for other reasons, benefits. Not because they loved their country.

- They only love the country when there is no war is here.
"Loving your country" is propaganda by the leaders because they want you to fight for their interests.
If you truly love your people you can help them within your own country.

Morals are only relative in the animal Kingdom.Humans killing each other is bad period.We all lose in wars.People literally get mentally sick and might commit suicide if they go to war.Humans killing humans is not how man was intended to live.Ours minds can't accept this.
THIS.
It is impossible for humans to fight without numbing themselves emotionally.
You find terms for this mental state in every culture.
 
Morals are only relative in the animal Kingdom.Humans killing each other is bad period.We all lose in wars.People literally get mentally sick and might commit suicide if they go to war.Humans killing humans is not how man was intended to live.Ours minds can't accept this.
of course I agree killing each other is bad. But I disagree we all lose in war.

War have winner and loser. If you beat enemy in war to get resource then you won the war and enemy territory is your as result.


I think you are pretty naive on people and suicide in wars, look at ancient history, mankind have being killing each other since dawn of the time. People don’t get mental sick in war. They just do it.
 
of course I agree killing each other is bad. But I disagree we all lose in war.

War have winner and loser. If you beat enemy in war to get resource then you won the war and enemy territory is your as result.


I think you are pretty naive on people and suicide in wars, look at ancient history, mankind have being killing each other since dawn of the time. People don’t get mental sick in war. They just do it.
Rich psychopaths profit in war.Most of us don't.
 
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I think you are pretty naive on people and suicide in wars, look at ancient history, mankind have being killing each other since dawn of the time. People don’t get mental sick in war. They just do it.
Many soldiers become suicidal. Instead of killing themselves they keep on fighting in order to be killed.
 
of course I agree killing each other is bad. But I disagree we all lose in war.

War have winner and loser. If you beat enemy in war to get resource then you won the war and enemy territory is your as result.


I think you are pretty naive on people and suicide in wars, look at ancient history, mankind have being killing each other since dawn of the time. People don’t get mental sick in war. They just do it.
We didn't have a concept of mental health back then.I'm sure people did get the same physical,mental and spiritual(i believe in this)diseases that we do today.Humans haven't changed much.But of course,defensive wars and self defense in general is another matter altogether.I don't think i would feel bad about killing a criminal that was molesting a kid.
 
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We didn't have a concept of mental health back then.I'm sure people did get the same physical,mental and spiritual(i believe in this) that we do today.Humans haven't changed much.B
They just used different terms for it, more metaphors or spiritually sounding explanations for phenomena such as PTSD.
 
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Yes,of course.You are right.
For example when they would still hear the screams of the dying people in their minds, they would say they are being "haunted by the spirits of the dead" or something like that.

I mean, even animals can experience PTSD.
There is no doubt that humans of the past developed mental issues just like us today.

You are right, humans are not meant to live like this.

People who experienced too much war end up thinking war is normal because they lost their ability to feel. They are emotionally numb. Which makes it easier for them to commit further violent acts.
It's like an endless circle.
 
For example when they would still hear the screams of the dying people in their minds, they would say they are being "haunted by the spirits of the dead" or something like that.

I mean, even animals can experience PTSD.
There is no doubt that humans of the past developed mental issues just like us today.

You are right, humans are not meant to live like this.

People who experienced too much war end up thinking war is normal because they lost their ability to feel. They are emotionally numb. Which makes it easier for them to commit further violent acts.
It's like an endless circle.
I believe if people can de-humanize their enemies they are capable of atrocities,but eventually they will developed some form of mental illness one way or another.Only hardcore psychopaths can get away with murder.
 
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I believe if people can de-humanize their enemies they are capable of atrocities,but eventually they will developed some form of mental illness one way or another.Only hardcore psychopaths can get away with murder.
Psychopaths are no real human beings.
 
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