General & Others Worlds strongest swordsmen is a nonsense worthless title.

[Blother Fertitta]

1. No Mihawk didn't the whole part of gathering allies was after Marco sent Vista after him
2. Or maybe Zoro middifs Mihawk. You don't know.
3. Does it matter? PrimeBeard is arguably stronger than 100k marines, warlords and admirals combined. Roger was his equal. Mihawk is not a top tier.

1. That's the point. Mihawk understood to get to WB they had to get through his commanders. You seem to focus on just WB, but ignore that his crew was there to stop him. And you say Vista stopped Mihawk. How about Marco stopping Kizaru, Jozu pushing Aokiji. Is Jozu = Aokiji? Is Marco = Kizaru?

2. You don't know either lol. Literature generally suggest the ending fights will be the hardest and toughest for characters due to natural progression. Add the fact that this is Zoro's hardest and main Goal of life to Conquer and voila you get an extreme difficulty fight culminating years of experience, training, and travel in one fight. This is common perception. But they said common sense isn't common, soo, hehe

3. The reason why WB was feared was already stated by Sengoku. He has the power to destroy the world. WB could tilt the tectonic plates and massacre everyone on both sides should he choose to. Whether or not Mihawk is a Top Tier won't matter the moment Oda chooses to Place him there. If you try to think a little bit and try to figure out where he is, that would help you out LOL

Zoro is fighting a YC1 now
By your logic he will be above YC1 after Wano

Shiryu fight, Zoro will be RHM level, according to you

Then Zoro fights an Admiral
Zoro will be above Admiral then

Then Mihawk last fight.....

Logical Progression then dictates Mihawk is a Top Tier. lmao

Also to add on, they sent an Admiral in Fujitora for Doflamingo lmao
You bet your ass they're sending an Admiral after Mihawk (my bet is Kizaru)

 

[Iam25]

bro Whitebeard could have easily destroyed MF from a distance with quake attacks lol

and how is Mihawk not a top tier

He didn't because he had the goal of rescuing Ace. He held back the entire time as noted by Sengoku. Its simple inference.

Mihawk is part of the forces Sengoku views as possibly losing to WB. That means Mihawk is nowhere near as strong as Newgate.

Hell the fact that he is subject to the WGs calls and doesn't want to lose his title should tell you he's not that strong
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1. That's the point. Mihawk understood to get to WB they had to get through his commanders. You seem to focus on just WB, but ignore that his crew was there to stop him. And you say Vista stopped Mihawk. How about Marco stopping Kizaru, Jozu pushing Aokiji. Is Jozu = Aokiji? Is Marco = Kizaru?

2. You don't know either lol. Literature generally suggest the ending fights will be the hardest and toughest for characters due to natural progression. Add the fact that this is Zoro's hardest and main Goal of life to Conquer and voila you get an extreme difficulty fight culminating years of experience, training, and travel in one fight. This is common perception. But they said common sense isn't common, soo, hehe

3. The reason why WB was feared was already stated by Sengoku. He has the power to destroy the world. WB could tilt the tectonic plates and massacre everyone on both sides should he choose to. Whether or not Mihawk is a Top Tier won't matter the moment Oda chooses to Place him there. If you try to think a little bit and try to figure out where he is, that would help you out LOL

Zoro is fighting a YC1 now
By your logic he will be above YC1 after Wano

Shiryu fight, Zoro will be RHM level, according to you

Then Zoro fights an Admiral
Zoro will be above Admiral then

Then Mihawk last fight.....

Logical Progression then dictates Mihawk is a Top Tier. lmao

Also to add on, they sent an Admiral in Fujitora for Doflamingo lmao
You bet your ass they're sending an Admiral after Mihawk (my bet is Kizaru)

1. Vista had a drawn out fight with Mihawk and Mihawk claimed they should settle it later. What's there to settle with someone on the YC tier level? You should be able to ohko if you are yonko tier.

2. Scrap that, what if someone beats mihawk and zoros endgame goal is to beat the guy Mihawk couldn't? You don't know either.

3. Roger could fight equally with Whitebeard. Hence those are the two top tiers. Mihawk cannot fight equally with Roger. Hence he is just another body to add to the pile. Hell potentially Kaido and BM can as well lol.

 

[Blother Fertitta]

@ArdynIzunia You gon love this thread

 

[Just a member]

What the fuck are you talking about
What else does shanks have lmfao
Shanks is a swordsman
That's it
Fujitora is a swordsman
That's it
Meme is a swordsman That's it.

Extra abilities don't stop you being a swordsman if you fight with a sword

But Mihawk can not be by default stronger than anybody who uses a sword regardless of their df, that is the point. He will beat BM, Fuji, Shanks etc. In a sword only fight but if this people start to use their df the story changes and we still don't know how it will end. If WB threw up his bisento at Marineford and pick up a sword then Mihawk by default become stronger than him? Nope.

 

[HA001]

But Mihawk can not be by default stronger than anybody who uses a sword regardless of their df, that is the point. He will beat BM, Fuji, Shanks etc. In a sword only fight but if this people start to use their df the story changes and we still don't know how it will end. If WB threw up his bisento at Marineford and pick up a sword then Mihawk by default become stronger than him? Nope.

Yes he can lmfao
That's his fucking title

Hes the STRONGEST swordsman

 

[Just a member]

Yes he can lmfao
That's his fucking title

Hes the STRONGEST swordsman

Nope. Mihawk clearly stated WB was above him when he throw at him his sword slash. If WB changes his bisento with a sword that doesn't make suddenly Mihawk stronger than him just because he is using a sword now.

 

[HA001]

Nope. Mihawk clearly stated WB was above him when he throw at him his sword slash. If WB changes his bisento with a sword that doesn't make suddenly Mihawk stronger than him just because he is using a sword now.

No he didnt for shit.

He went to fight wb
He saw wb declined
And lost interest

He wants a challenge remember someone stronger than Shanks
If that was oldbeard he'd fight him
Not chase luffy

 

[Just a member]

No he didnt for shit.

He went to fight wb
He saw wb declined
And lost interest

He wants a challenge remember someone stronger than Shanks
If that was oldbeard he'd fight him
Not chase luffy

That is speculation from your side, there is no mention or hint at Mihawk losing interest in WB cause he declined. Then WB declined, sure, but he was still the WSS otherwise he wouldn't have been able to do what he did and finally beat Akainu and BB in succession while knocking on death's door. Also it is true that Mihawk is looking for a worthy rival but a swordsman otherwise he would go fight BM/Kaido/BB whoever can give him a run for his mobey. But he is waiting for Zoro instead.

 

[HA001]

That is speculation from your side, there is no mention or hint at Mihawk losing interest in WB cause he declined. Then WB declined, sure, but he was still the WSS otherwise he wouldn't have been able to do what he did and finally beat Akainu and BB in succession while knocking on death's door. Also it is true that Mihawk is looking for a worthy rival but a swordsman otherwise he would go fight BM/Kaido/BB whoever can give him a run for his mobey. But he is waiting for Zoro instead.

No it's not speculation
He literally said himself he went to fight wb
Then lost interest when he saw he declined
No he's waiting for someone stronger than Shanks to fight

 

[Blackflamesanji]

yeah it's weird how not one even one of the top tier want to fight mihawk, not even battle craze kaido who want to die

 

[mly90]

Mihawk is underrated. Mihawk > Marineford Whitebeard.

The Goat spitting facts

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

literally said himself he went to fight wb
Then lost interest when he saw he declined

Headcannon
Mihawk lost interest with someone Oda calls the WSP.

Wb vivre card says he clashed swords with oden
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The Goat spitting facts

How can you be stronger then someone you admit a distance too?

 

[mly90]

hat would be a really cool plot twist.

Great idea you should make you own series and write that version of Mihawk your readers will absolutely love such a twist, it will also probably make you feel better too so a huge win win

 

[Mackiss]

Great idea you should make you own series and write that version of Mihawk your readers will absolutely love such a twist, it will also probably make you feel better too so a huge win win

Don't be so mad
C'mon man, all evidence points to that.

 

[RiShin]

If only Oda hype the title such as Hawkeye defeated _____ to become wss or Oden showed interest in such a title it could make the title more appealing imo.
Or have notable swordsmen around the world wanting to fight Hawkeye instead of fodder like those okamas. Because Hawkeye never fought Vista before marineford.
Also it brings the issues, why there no other sub categories of WSM such as WSmartialartist, WSgunner, and WSClubber?

 

[notAfanboy]

Never happening. Like other fights never happened.
It is an old formula. Let people anticipate and keep on hyping up the characters.
For example, if some

If someone told us that France is strong and they destroyed Germany. Ultimately, France is strong (i.e., France is the WSS).

The next question leads us to:

How strong was Germany?

Answer: Well, duh, dont you know? Germany low diffed Japan.

Well, ironically, how strong was Japan?
Answer: They were great warriors, no one had defeated them before.

Now, apply this pattern to One Piece.

We have NEVER SEEN someone go all out and fight another person who was at his peak strength.

1) It starts with Shanks, a Yonkou, a strong character. Nerfed at the very beginning (lost 1 arm). How strong he was when he didnt lose an arm? Have we seen that? No!

2) Whitebeard, WSM (nerfed by sickness). Did we see Whitebeard fight at his prime? No! How his fight turned out at God Valley? How he fought Roger, without getting injured. It implied that Roger = WB. But, later he was nerfed to avoid anymore fights because the author needed to hide the powers of other characters. So, all Oda did was talk about how great WB was, not his current strength.

3) BigMom vs. Kaido. Never seen them fight, just useless Haki clashes. Portrayed as equal. But later Kaido had to save BigMom from literally dying by drowning.

4) Garp never fought, Sengoku never fought against WB, Akainu and Kizaru were toying with WBP, no actual 1v1 fight. All talk, no action.

5) Shanks comes in and stops the fight. Well, it showed Shanks > Akainu. All talk, no action.
6) If Mihawk > Shanks, then, why Mihawk dont have same kind of portrayal as Shanks?

Now refer back to my first example. It will all add up.

So, my friends, please wake up, it is a trick that authors use to convince the audience.

There is nothing more to it.

Let it age, come back after 10 years and read OP reviews, they will write the same thing.

Not hating on Oda, it is indeed a great story telling from commercial point of view, because these tricks always work.

 

[Broreo]

So you just gonna say whitebeard prime WITHOUT DF stomps mihawk and base your whole argument around that?

 

[Banchi]

Whitebeard is dead, so I think Mihawk wins this one

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

It's Zoro's ultimate goal and dream that title. Means a hell of alot

 

[Sentry22]

There is no if in this case. WB and Roger were considered the strongest pirates of their generation who had no equal. The only person to have ever been a challenge to Roger other than WB was Garp and Xebec.