Powers & Abilities Would Zoro be able to fight even without his swords?

Can zoro fight past main villains with only his haki fists and kicks?


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Shepherd

Obviously not.

At this point in the story, all the main villains and even smaller side-villains such as King, Queen, Kata, etc. have haki + physical strength, but that only composes one half of their arsenal. The other half is their technique/fighting style/DF ability.

Taking away Zoro's swords is reducing him to just a guy with physical strength + haki since obviously Zoro has no technique without his swords...

Which means that obviously he just gets low-diffed by high-ranking Yonko Commanders since he is unable to fight back...

The fact that an entire 80% voted that he could not only fight past main villains without his swords really demonstrates the retardation of this forum towards Mossfag.
 
Obviously not.

At this point in the story, all the main villains and even smaller side-villains such as King, Queen, Kata, etc. have haki + physical strength, but that only composes one half of their arsenal. The other half is their technique/fighting style/DF ability.

Taking away Zoro's swords is reducing him to just a guy with physical strength + haki since obviously Zoro has no technique without his swords...

Which means that obviously he just gets low-diffed by high-ranking Yonko Commanders since he is unable to fight back...

The fact that an entire 80% voted that he could not only fight past main villains without his swords really demonstrates the retardation of this forum towards Mossfag.
He has no sword style though. And does BM have any technique other than her overwhelming physical strength and her haki? She isn't using any martial arts as far as I know. Why would zoro be useless if his swords would be taken away? It was already foreshadowed by king since he took away 2 of zoros swords for a short period of time that this fight might not only include zoro fighting with his swords only.
 
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Shepherd

He has no sword style though.
That we've seen nothing of.

And does BM have any technique other than her overwhelming physical strength and her haki? She isn't using any martial arts as far as I know.
She doesn't need technique because she is of the Giant race meaning she has innate superhuman strength & durability, and of course an OP devil fruit.

Why would zoro be useless if his swords would be taken away?
Because he relies on his swords to fight and has demonstrated 0 capabilities as a brawler.

It was already foreshadowed by king since he took away 2 of zoros swords for a short period of time that this fight might not only include zoro fighting with his swords only.
That doesn't count because Zoro still had 1 sword to use, which he was able to block a direct attack to the face with. Also, he has demonstrated good technique with just 1 sword so even using just that wouldn't count.


It is possible that Zoro may demonstrate some capability in this fight without his swords, but as of now he has shown 0 technique or viability without them so we can aptly assume without them he is garbage.
 
He can still rely on Mutoryu and perhaps he can get access to Knives if they are allowed.

He doesn't lose anything haki potency wise and his defensive output is still pretty proficient.

Also he should be able to rely on Asura. Why not.
 
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Shepherd

He can still rely on Mutoryu and perhaps he can get access to Knives if they are allowed.
Oh, right, the Mutoryu which was showcased during the Groggy Ring Event and never once again.

He doesn't lose anything haki potency wise and his defensive output is still pretty proficient.
His defensive output is reliant on his swords, without which his defense is hogwash given he got stabbed by a no-named Killer farmtool.

Also he should be able to rely on Asura. Why not.
It is more likely that Zoro would get defeated before he has the chance to even use Asura, not that Asura would help much anyways since Asura is also reliant on his swords.
 
Oh, right, the Mutoryu which was showcased during the Groggy Ring Event and never once again.



His defensive output is reliant on his swords, without which his defense is hogwash given he got stabbed by a no-named Killer farmtool.



It is more likely that Zoro would get defeated before he has the chance to even use Asura, not that Asura would help much anyways since Asura is also reliant on his swords.
Mutoryu is canon. Furthermore, his defensive output fundamentally mostly derived from his haki output, and he probably used barrier haki in order to tackle Hakai since in FI there's a specific mention about Zoro calling a barrier against Hyouzou and that didn't seem to be a simple wave more likely. If anything the position of the swords and Hakai suggests there was some invisible distance, I doubt it's an author mistake.
 
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Shepherd

Yeah, it's also canon that he used it only once during a meme arc and we have no proof of it's viability so far.

Furthermore, his defensive output fundamentally mostly derived from his haki output, and he probably used barrier haki in order to tackle Hakai since in FI there's a specific mention about Zoro calling a barrier against Hyouzou and that didn't seem to be a simple blast wave more likely. If anything the position of the swords and Hakai suggests there was some invisible distance, I doubt it's an author mistake.
No I agree, he definitely used barrier haki, but on his swords. You take away his swords which are what he channels his haki through and his durability suddenly crashes which is why as I said he took significant damage from a simple unnamed swing from Killer who wasn't even using his main weapons.
 
Yeah, it's also canon that he used it only once during a meme arc and we have no proof of it's viability so far.



No I agree, he definitely used barrier haki, but on his swords. You take away his swords which are what he channels his haki through and his durability suddenly crashes which is why as I said he took significant damage from a simple unnamed swing from Killer who wasn't even using his main weapons.
Well there's no susbrantial reason to think he can't rely on barrier haki without utilizing his swords. Barrier haki is nothing but a projection of one's CoA haki outside of the body in the form of a barrier, so he should be able to perform that feat independently and he still retains his strenght too.
 
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Shepherd

Well there's no susbrantial reason to think he can't rely on barrier haki without utilizing his swords.
Yeah, there is substaintial reason.

Without his swords, his body is vulnerable as demonstrated against Killer and now King, who was about to give Zoro a dislocated jaw if Zoro's 3rd sword wasn't there to protect him.
 
Yeah, there is substaintial reason.

Without his swords, his body is vulnerable as demonstrated against Killer and now King, who was about to give Zoro a dislocated jaw if Zoro's 3rd sword wasn't there to protect him.
The barrier he is forming is not part of his own body but simply a costituent of his haki output helped out by his strenght output (actually we don't have much knowledge on this particular aspect of the matter but that sounds logical). So anything the barrier itself tackles doesn't affect his own body per se.
 
Well there's no susbrantial reason to think he can't rely on barrier haki without utilizing his swords. Barrier haki is nothing but a projection of one's CoA haki outside of the body in the form of a barrier, so he should be able to perform that feat independently and he still retains his strenght too.
but as for now he hasnt show any barrier haki, isnt it? since he was mumbling like "so thats a ryuo" to Luffy.
 
Which enemies would he beat and which would give him a hard time so he loses?
Without his swords, if the past enemies are the same level as when they lost to Luffy then in paradise :

Crocodile, Enel, Lucci, Moriah and Pacifista would all be annoying to put down but they are still too weak to trouble Zoro

New World :

Hordy also can’t do much,
CC also can’t do much since Zoro can create tornados that cancel out CC’s air canceling ability,
Doffy is the problem, while he is slower and weaker than Zoro he is a pretty intelligent guy so he would try and keep this distance and win that way, but I don’t think he has enough AP to put down Zoro,
Cracker will actually win this pretty easily, his attack power was fairly decent and Zoro has no way of defending himself from multiple sword attacks,
Katakuri if he uses his brain will also have an easy time but if he stops using his weapon and tries to win with mochi kicks and punches it will take him hours before he can win
 
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