Break Week would Zoro have done things Differently than Sanji if he was in WCI?

#41
Regardless of all that copium and excuses you made for Sanji, that doesn't change the fact that Zoro wouldn't feel hopeless and cry outside a 16 year old's window because his shitty plans fell apart. Although I regard Zoro as an irrelevant idiot, the one thing true about him is that he's loyal to Luffy to a fault, and would of never doubted that Luffy would turn the tides around for him, whereas Sanji's belief in Luffy wavered immensely to the point that his delusional ass thought everything rested on his limp ass shoulders, and even when Sanji was back in tip top shape, couldn't come up with a plan to save Luffy once he left the Mirror World, and left his family on WCI, the people that Sanji convinced Luffy to come back for to save.
You're just babbling a lot of nonsense dude, i mean i don't blame Zoro fans at all, you don't need to read to be a Zoro fan these days, you just need to like to watch anime fights and thats it.

First off, you're insisting in "Zoro wouldn't wouldn't cry outside of a 16 yo room", like this was a huge ass problem itself, and not a consequence of Zoro (in this case, Sanji) feeling like there was no way out after he had done so much. Or your sorry ass thinks he would fold Big Mom and everyone, then carry Luffy's ass out of WCI and even replace Nami's role as the navigator if necessary, right? Woro can do anything without help, thats why we had Jimbe carrying him in Egghead and Sanji needing to look down on him for him to do something to Lucci and so on

Come on dude make some effort and be realistic, context matters
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When Luffy proposed to go to the Navy HQ to rescue Vivi, Zoro disagreed with it because he knows the implications it has. It's not mere fear, its not being too inconsequent when things affect more than your own. Which again falls back to Zoro not even having anyone to care about that much like Sanji had in WCI specifically

And Zoro didn't even needed to be put under such heavy pressure like Sanji was in WCI to have Luffy asking if he is a chicken for not wanting the smoke with the Navy HQ lol.

You don't even realize Zoro didn't want Luffy to go rescue Sanji, just like Sanji didn’t want Luffy to go rescue him as well. Zoro and Sanji would literally agree in almost every single decision if they were put under the same circumstances because they value similar standards for the crew's safety

Sanji himself, among other reasons, said he didn’t deserve to go back to the crew after beating Luffy, something him and Zoro agreed about in Water 7, and guess what? Luffy just punched his face, this was Luffy saying "fuck these rules, i need you with me"

In this specific moment can you picture what Zoro would do here? Would you enjoy the outcome or would Zoro end up like a clown speaking alone and getting ignored just like Nami was during "Luffy vs Sanji"? Would him show feelings and cry like Sanji "oUtsiDe oF a 16 yO rOoM?" Would he leave the crew because you think he is so manly and edgy that he would refuse to use his brain more than the usual and let Sanji and Luffy solve their things by their own? Zoro is so manly that he can't cry for legitimate reasons even while nobody is watching? Did you forgot he cried after getting clapped by Mihawk in front of Sanji, Luffy and many other people?
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There are many better questions to be made here but i don't expect u guys to think about it, as i said initially, Zoro is a character than you don't need to think about that much these days, and sometimes you guys definitely act accordingly to it.
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#42
This isn't what he said tho, he said "A member of the future PK's crew can't fear a mere Younko of the Sea", and thats right, when you are in a team who has nothing to lose other than their own lives that they choose to put on the line for the sake of someone's dream (Luffy)

Sanji didn’t fear Big Mom for what she could do to him, he feared how his own self and his own decisions could reflect on the people he cares about (Zeff and Co, and the crew overall). He literally jumped her with Luffy to protect Reiju btw, he asked Zoro to try his best to kill him if he started behaving weird in Onigashima.

So this is mere interpretation of the statements and the moments the characters were set in. At the end of WCI, Jinbe didnt leave with the SHs so he could help the Sun Pirates to endure Big Mom's fleet, so this isn't Jinbe fearing Big Mom, but fearing for his old subbordinates and mates.
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Doesn't undo the portrayal tho.
These might be harsh choice of words, but the fact is Sanji complied to everyone demands like a little girl, while Jinbei stood his ground firmly like a Boss.

Jinbei knew he was putting his fishmen kins life at risk, but he said what needed to be said. Yes, they are both different persons, but portrayal depicts Sanji further in bad light.

My intention ain't here to find faults in Sanji, but i strongly feel
Wings of PK ain't supposed to get a rescue arc supposedly post ts of the story. Whatever may be the reasons, as much as Oda tried to make the reasons justified, it was poor choice to put Sanji through all that, and then not make it rewarding enough after all the lows.​
 
#48
WCI was just poorly handled due to all the PIS and dropped consequences.
BigMom should've sent Zeffs head to the crew.

Once the stakes were immediately dropped by Reiju (Lol bomb cuffs are fake and Zeffs safe), Sanji being there just felt stupid.

Then Oda had to rewrite a reason for Sanji staying, which was to save his family that he gave no shit about for the previous 30 chapters. Even rewrote Zeffs character to try to justify that.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#49
WCI was just poorly handled due to all the PIS and dropped consequences.
BigMom should've sent Zeffs head to the crew.

Once the stakes were immediately dropped by Reiju (Lol bomb cuffs are fake and Zeffs safe), Sanji being there just felt stupid.

Then Oda had to rewrite a reason for Sanji staying, which was to save his family that he gave no shit about for the previous 30 chapters. Even rewrote Zeffs character to try to justify that.
Outside of Katakuri there is a legit case to be made WCI is worse than Wano.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#51
BM would have lost her lowly son and would be begging kaido for king if he ever came across marimo in wci
Even current Zoro would struggle against Katakuri let alone on WCI. The beating Katakuri would have given Zoro would be generational. Zoro would have lost all of his aura, Oda did well making sure those two never interacted. And it's not like Katakuri would have stabbed himself for Zoro, that's reserved for Goofy.
 
#52
Even current Zoro would struggle against Katakuri let alone on WCI. The beating Katakuri would have given Zoro would be generational. Zoro would have lost all of his aura, Oda did well making sure those two never interacted. And it's not like Katakuri would have stabbed himself for Zoro, that's reserved for Goofy.
Zoro doesn't need such a weak fragile mochi merchant to stab himself make this fight even more one sided. Mr 13 hits is a tatsumaki victim oda did well to keep that fragile donut away from zoro blades for sure
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#54
Zoro doesn't need such a weak fragile mochi merchant to stab himself make this fight even more one sided. Mr 13 hits is a tatsumaki victim oda did well to keep that fragile donut away from zoro blades for sure
I really would love to see this, but this is only cool in fanfics. https://x.com/i/status/1876732885077459182

Reality wouldn't be so kind to Zoro. FS + Environmental Control = Zoro gets the asswhooping of a lifetime :sweat:
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#57
He also got an asswhooping from King until he unlocked ACoC
All he'd need to do is randomly unlock FS like Luffy did
The thing is FS alone didn't even lead to Luffy's victory. What led to Luffy's victory was Katakuri becoming a Luffy fan, without that he could still style on FS + Snakeman. Unlike King who got mollywhopped after Zoro's PU, Katakuri still had the edge after Luffy's PU and new mode reveal. We will never see glaze like that again.
 
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