Character Discussion WTF is Oda Doing to Sanji?

#43
Is Egghead arc the worst it has ever been for Sanji? I dont remember Sanji getting hypetooled pre TS. Post TS idk where it started, I think it was against Vergo with the leg cracking shit and then against Doffy. But Egghead has been absolutely shit for Sanji. I know some Sanji fans will try to hype some things (just dont bring the perception blitzing Zoro thing, that is pure retardness) but when you look at it overall it has been very disappointing.

And these are not just gag losses (best one was that Duval shit) or bad for power level, even character wise he has taken a hit. Biggest one being that we get zero, absolutely zero reaction to Lucci injuring Stussy in front of Sanji even when Sanji says that he is her dog and shit. Or wanting to score points in front of Bonney (not even getting into the age debate) and telling Franky to back off only to have Franky be the savior in the end anyway because Sanji failed.

Then we get to his performance against the enemies, the only respectable one is against S-Shark. But against top tiers getting stare diffed by Saturn and being unable to move, to not being able to save VP (Luffy shares the blame), cracking a one liner and then getting kicked in the face and unable to protect VP from Kizaru to now getting bitten and thrown to the ground by Venus.

Idk how the diehard Sanji fans are coping right now, but their wishes of Sanji being Akainu level seems to have taken a hit.

Its fun when Sanji and his fans are trolled (and some do deserve it) but this is getting disappointing. I wish Oda would bring East Blue and Alabasta Sanji back.

Sanji has been like the 3rd/4th most popular character over the series and this recent showing is gonna hit the fanbase.
All starts with His time skip training it sucks he only learn geppo and if oda wouldn't gave him at least basic haki franky and robin would have surprass him loda realized about that and he needed a fight in wano after 15 years that's why the new PU with all that family trauma sure he is one of the fighters of the crew but alongside zoro and Jinbe and currently he is below the second one
Don't get me wrong he got cool moments this arc like that letter sentence to kizaru however he mix it with creepy ones like I want to score points with bonney
His fans just overrated the character too much and exagerate things
 
#46
Explain how this is a bad thing? How exactly is it a bad thing? @Blazing Lion you're a retard just like your little ZKK zealots. You can't read for nothing, what was he supposed to do? Dodge the bite?
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Did you even fucking read my post?
I already said that it seems unlikely that Sanji will beat a Gorosei 1v1 because the Gorosei have ACoC (99% chance) while Sanji does not. 3 ACoC users have been defeated so far on panel, Kaido, BM and Garp. Kaido is the only one who was defeated by another ACoC user. BM lost due to plot and circumstances. Garp lost because he took on a Yonko crew and an Admiral and was dealt the most significant blow because he was protecting someone else.

Getting and thrown to the ground is bad because Sanji tried to come and save like a hero in front of Bonney. When you land an attack (which was hyped a lot by Sanji fans while in the same chapter more damage was dealt by Brook to another Gorosei) and then countered and thrown like this and not shown to get back up then it looks bad.
 
#52
this recent showing is gonna hit the fanbase.


The Sanji fandom has been in shambles for a decade, CL¹⁸oda did manage to get our hopes up in WCI but he failed to deliver even there. The only reason people still like him is that he is (one of) the most interesting characters in One Piece, the underdog of the M3, and his panel time is off the charts. It is also funny to come up with new theories about him, so many aspects to explore

Sanji looks weak and useless and he will look unimpressive as long as CL¹⁸oda keeps treating him like this. He is not even a good hypetool anymore :josad:
 
#53
When Sanji get outshined in every fight (kizaru, saturne, nasjuro) you know shit has become realy bad for the chief. at least before it was just luffy & zoro which make sense since they are way stronger. ever the rest of the crew got better feat vs saturne when they protected robin.
 
#54


The Sanji fandom has been in shambles for a decade, CL¹⁸oda did manage to get our hopes up in WCI but he failed to deliver even there. The only reason people still like him is that he is (one of) the most interesting characters in One Piece, the underdog of the M3, and his panel time is off the charts. It is also funny to come up with new theories about him, so many aspects to explore

Sanji looks weak and useless and he will look unimpressive as long as CL¹⁸oda keeps treating him like this. He is not even a good hypetool anymore :josad:
:josad::josad::josad:
 
#55
Seraphim spurt blood ? Why are you lying
Anyone can make the gorosei spurt blood . Franky blew a hole in one and nami and brook where blasting holes on Saturn and cutting off limbs . They have normal durability so besides you lying nothing he did is impressive
You are blatantly comparing Saturn (who is a paper tank) with Nasjurou who is actually a skilled fighter (and not represented as a tank like Saturn and Jupeter?)

Also, pretend that Sanji didn't damage the seraphin, when he saved Nami, S-Shark was rolling his eyes and spitting blood, are you going to lie that there wasn't that in the manga?

You Zorofanboys will try everything to lie and distort the facts, but people who are really honest will understand the events and the fact that Sanji really had feats in this arc that surpass any YC.
 
#59
You are blatantly comparing Saturn (who is a paper tank) with Nasjurou who is actually a skilled fighter (and not represented as a tank like Saturn and Jupeter?)

Also, pretend that Sanji didn't damage the seraphin, when he saved Nami, S-Shark was rolling his eyes and spitting blood, are you going to lie that there wasn't that in the manga?

You Zorofanboys will try everything to lie and distort the facts, but people who are really honest will understand the events and the fact that Sanji really had feats in this arc that surpass any YC.
You can make a lusmrian roll their eyes and they take no damage did you forget when zoro lion songed king? And he did not spit blood you can’t even post that panel dude stop lying
 
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