Character Discussion WTF is Oda Doing to Sanji?

#82
Sanji was treated much better pre-timeskip, but I'd say since Wano things have been much better, as far as fights go, for Sanji than most periods post-timeskip. Sanji had the S-Shark clash where he looked good though unfortunately the conclusion or lack of one was off-panel, not to mention he's gotten a few feats against top-tiers before getting overwhelmed. Sanji's not a top-tier yet, it's understandable that he'd struggle.

I think his performances could be better, but he's not exactly flopping this arc. He succeeded in saving Bonney by dispersing that light-beam and kicking V. Nusjuro, he just isn't strong enough to maintain a 1v1 confrontation against either right now, so he got overwhelmed. The only iffy part I feel is Vegapunk dying, but honestly Sanji was also with Luffy, and it didn't help that the guy had been stabbed prior so they had to hesitate considering he himself was telling them not to run with him initially. It's definitely a failure, but it's kinda an L that Luffy and Sanji share.

My only real gripe is that the S-Shark fight was off-panelled, Sanji went from just getting stare-diffed to leaving Kizaru shocked and roasting Nusjuro, losing against top-tiers ain't the biggest disappointment. He'll continue to progress from here, and we'll probably get more on the eyebrow flip and the power of love in future conflicts.
 
#83
Pre ts sanji was a good, interesting chacter, he was never up there with Luffy and Zoro in combat power but he made up for it by being smart, Sanji will never shine as much as he did as mr Prince. Now he is just a hypetoool and a traitor.
:sanmoji:
If One Piece explores tactical actions as much as the old days, the manga would be much varied & interesting indeed.
 
#91
People talking about powerups and I am seriously doubting he will actually get any good action at all..even with Queen everything felt forced plot...and oda exhausted the Exoskeleton there though did not make it permanant.
Sanji will keep fighting the third strongest, Oda will probably just give him unique power ups probably based on some weird power of love thing.
 
#94
Dont know why but Sanji has been chosen to be the "White Male" by Oda.
I mean the bad stuff about White Male that must suffer from what he's doing since year 0000 (racism, feminism, ecologism,...).

Dont be wrong Oda do care about Current Mentality.
Why did he add Yamato?
For Lgbt.

So making Sanji a complete idiot or cuck or dog to a Woman makes a lot of Peeps happy ( zorofans too ).

Zoro does not suffer from that but Oda made him Lonely.

#fuckingbreakpost
 
#95
If One Piece explores tactical actions as much as the old days, the manga would be much varied & interesting indeed.
This big time.

The confrontations and problem solving was way better pre timeskip. Sure, Sanji is reliable as a competent fighter after Luffy and Zoro, but as the third strongest, he’s solidly in between Luffy and Zoro (Luffy has always been the strongest in the crew), and the rest of the crew.

Where the other crew mates would get absolutely wrecked by the opponents he clashes with and becomes hype tool for. Zoro gets special treatment since early on in the story proclaiming a promise not to lose again to Luffy.

To be fair, where Sanji fails in his clashes, Zoro would hardly do much better in those insistences. Would he do better? Of course! Better durability and attack power.

But what Sanji excels at to make for it is wits. Unfortunately Oda like you say hasn’t emphasized that as much.

I also miss a bit more of the surprises of pre timeskip of Sanji. He’s not a muscle head like the other two, but can hold his own.


Actually now that I think about it…it’s highly possible we get a moment of Sanji sabotaging an ancient weapon just like he did with Maxim on Skypiea. At least hope that is the case for Sanji
 
#98
He still should get CoC. Namely the CoO Killing CoC fits him. He doesn’t need CoC coating since he has IJ and exoskeleton
I'm the biggest Sanjibro around, but me personally don't like Sanji having CoC because it means he got favored by the heaven/destiny. Reaching the top without that blessing is more interesting.

But then, if he had to get CoC, it's because of FS. So far all FS users have CoC.
 
I'm the biggest Sanjibro around, but me personally don't like Sanji having CoC because it means he got favored by the heaven/destiny. Reaching the top without that blessing is more interesting.

But then, if he had to get CoC, it's because of FS. So far all FS users have CoC.
CoC to me just means that Judge was wrong and Zeff was right. Judge believed Sanji wasn’t fit to be royalty; however, Zeff believed Sanji had the same resolve as Luffy. As such merely awakening CoC would prove once again which of the two knew Sanji best.
 
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