Speculations Xebec and Kaido's Son

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#1
Is it far fetched to imagine there could be a very similar situation between Garp/Roger and Kaido/Xebec ?
Roger trusted Garp with his own son and Garp took care of Roger's Son as his own, is it not possible for the similar situation between Xebec and Kaido, Xebec might've trusted Kaido with his own son and Kaido took care of him as his own.....
Kaido as we've seen seems to have deep connection with Xebec to the point he wants world domination the same dream as Xebec, so maybe thats why Xebec trusted Kaido in return as well
In return it gives us chance for us to see Luffy VS Xebec Son and also Flashbacks of Xebec VS Roger & Garp
 

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#2
Is it far fetched to imagine there could be a very similar situation between Garp/Roger and Kaido/Xebec ?
Roger trusted Garp with his own son and Garp took care of Roger's Son as his own, is it not possible for the similar situation between Xebec and Kaido, Xebec might've trusted Kaido with his own son and Kaido took care of him as his own.....
Kaido as we've seen seems to have deep connection with Xebec to the point he wants world domination the same dream as Xebec, so maybe thats why Xebec trusted Kaido in return as well
In return it gives us chance for us to see Luffy VS Xebec Son and also Flashbacks of Xebec VS Roger & Garp
I mean, ANYTHING is possible...but this seems tremendously conjectural. We don’t know any specifics about the dynamic between Xebec and Kaido, and what little we know about their crew in general, nothing would imply that anyone in Rocks shares the kind of camaraderie we’ve seen in the SHP and other organizations. Garp and Roger developed a mutual respect after years of opposing one another; Xebec and Kaido were on the same side, and it sounds like they all still distrusted one another. I think saying the latter pair shares a “deep” connection is a bold statement considering how little we know; plenty of villains in this story yearn for world domination, does that make them all BFFs?
 

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#3
I don't think that Kaido would be someone that Xebec would entrust his son to. He was only an apprentice on the crew, after all, you'd think if anyone from Rocks was to take a potential heir it would be Whitebeard, who was more powerful, older and wanted a family.

I do, however, think it's relatively likely that Xebec is the father of Shanks, and that Roger and Garp conspired to keep him safe from World Gov reprisal, hence the way they treated Ace years later. Blackbeard would be an outside bet.
 
#4
I mean, ANYTHING is possible...but this seems tremendously conjectural. We don’t know any specifics about the dynamic between Xebec and Kaido, and what little we know about their crew in general, nothing would imply that anyone in Rocks shares the kind of camaraderie we’ve seen in the SHP and other organizations. Garp and Roger developed a mutual respect after years of opposing one another; Xebec and Kaido were on the same side, and it sounds like they all still distrusted one another. I think saying the latter pair shares a “deep” connection is a bold statement considering how little we know; plenty of villains in this story yearn for world domination, does that make them all BFFs?
I don't think that Kaido would be someone that Xebec would entrust his son to. He was only an apprentice on the crew, after all, you'd think if anyone from Rocks was to take a potential heir it would be Whitebeard, who was more powerful, older and wanted a family.

I do, however, think it's relatively likely that Xebec is the father of Shanks, and that Roger and Garp conspired to keep him safe from World Gov reprisal, hence the way they treated Ace years later. Blackbeard would be an outside bet.
yes as mentioned Rocks had internal conflicts and hard to control,
BM desiring a Family of species
WB wanting a crew as family not as conquerors of world
Captain John was likely Nami of the crew the treasure seeker
Shiki...I dont know maybe wasn't trustworthy enough or not with enough potential for Xebec's dream to become reality through his son in Shiki's care
so among the Big names as Sengoku mentioned Kaido was one of them, he was younger than others but as shadow he was shown to be a grown up and strong member....and as I said he shared Xebec's dream of world domination and truly has the potential that's why Xebec could've entrusted him.....
WB and BM were out of question for sure, they were No No, a peace loving guy and a crazy mental woman
....and Yeah Shanks makes good possibility, one of the oldest theories since revelation of Xebec but if he isn't then we speculating other situations as well..... Teach is another Theory
 
#10
Kaido would be the least trustworthy pirate in Rocks. Adult Kaido is drunk and irresponsible all the time, that's how he earned those 7 Ls. What would made Xebec look at him and think "yeah, he'd be a good daddy".

If were Xebec, I would try to pass my child to Whitebeard first. If WB refuses, then Big Mom who already had children by that point is the next strongest candidate. After that, I'd look at Shiki, Bakkin, Silver Axe, etc. Even Roger would be a better candidate, like Roger trusting Garp with Ace. A child bears no sins after all. Your apprentice Kaido is likely the person you would turn to only after every other Rocks pirate refused.
 
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#11
Kaido would be the least trustworthy pirate in Rocks. Adult Kaido is drunk and irresponsible all the time, that's how he earned those 7 Ls. What would made Xebec look at him and think "yeah, he'd be a good daddy".

If were Xebec, I would try to pass my child to Whitebeard first. If WB refuses, then Big Mom who already had children by that point is the next strongest candidate. After that, I'd look at Shiki, Bakkin, Silver Axe, etc. Even Roger would be a better candidate, like Roger trusting Garp with Ace. A child bears no sins after all. Your apprentice Kaido is likely the person you would turn to only after every other Rocks pirate refused.
Kaido isnt just a mindless brute....he can think carefully and make plans as well, the proof is him Making Oden his pawn and played with him
 
#12
Kaido isnt just a mindless brute....he can think carefully and make plans as well, the proof is him Making Oden his pawn and played with him
Certainly, but he had a lot of help from the Korozumi family. Even today Orochi helps Kaido do a lot of his scheming. He's far from a one-man act. Furthermore, this is a more grown up, mature Kaido you're referencing here. Xebec wouldn't be judging Kaido on the quality of his future crew.

Under Rocks he was a pirate apprentice, same title as Shanks and Buggy under Roger. He was there to fight Roger and Garp making him look prominent, but Whitebeard remembers fighting Shanks and Buggy who were kids. How smart was cabin boy Kaido? How reckless was his behavior compared to now? How interested would he be in raising a child being so young himself? If Roger had to pass Ace to one of his crew members, I would assume Shanks and Buggy are the bottom of that list. Regardless of how those two's parenting capabilities turned out decades later.
 
#13
Kaido wasn't an adult back then

even among the crew Shiki , WB and Big mom are better options ...


but I'm more than sure Kaido's kid should have a major plot role in the story
 
#14
Certainly, but he had a lot of help from the Korozumi family. Even today Orochi helps Kaido do a lot of his scheming. He's far from a one-man act. Furthermore, this is a more grown up, mature Kaido you're referencing here. Xebec wouldn't be judging Kaido on the quality of his future crew.

Under Rocks he was a pirate apprentice, same title as Shanks and Buggy under Roger. He was there to fight Roger and Garp making him look prominent, but Whitebeard remembers fighting Shanks and Buggy who were kids. How smart was cabin boy Kaido? How reckless was his behavior compared to now? How interested would he be in raising a child being so young himself? If Roger had to pass Ace to one of his crew members, I would assume Shanks and Buggy are the bottom of that list. Regardless of how those two's parenting capabilities turned out decades later.
Kaido was no Cabin boy, come on !!! where do you guys get that from....if he was then sengoku wouldnt mention him as important figure and Oda wouldnt draw him Adult and infront of people like Shiki....he was full fledged member with clearly lots of potential
Orochi helped him but if he was the mindless guy we thought he was then he would first of all beat Orochi and take Wano by force and he would use force against Oden too... and why should Kaido's crew matter to Xebec ? none of them had crews of their own back then anyways
 
#15
At least that would add some depth to Kaido’s character. There are many hints of Xebec being a psychopath so I could see him entrust his own son to someone like Kaido. It actually makes more sense than entrusting his son to someone like Whitebeard since he was likely too different from Xebec in terms of personality and moral values. A simpler idea would be that Kaido just took him when Xebec died.

But it’s highly unlikely that Kaido’s son isn’t his. It wouldn’t serve any particular purpose story wise.
 
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