General & Others Yeah shakky ruined god valley

#21
I know Rocks was there for his family kaido and linlin were there for the devil fruits garp was there to fight roger but it doesn't change the fact that the whole battle on god valley was cause by shakky

god valley more like goon valley or simp valley what happen 38 years ago was battle of mindless lovestruck simps who wants to play hero to get shakky for fall for them like holy crap I don't hate shakky but her being the trigger in this flashback turned god valley into a absolute joke

I wouldn't be surprised if imu simping for Lili cause void century war 800 years ago
It isn’t a joke remember how strawhats went to enies lobby for robin or wb marineford for ace
 
#25
I’m surprised people are that bothered by it

If God Valley was exclusively about Shakky then I’d understand

But with all the things surrounding it (Davy Clan, Rocks’ fall, Shanks and Shamrock’s place of birth, Teach, young Dragon potentially turning against the Navy, the unknown treasures, etc) I really could care less

I’m not going to claim the entire event is ruined because of the trigger while completely ignoring everything that actually takes place during the event

But to each their own
 
#26
I’m surprised people are that bothered by it

If God Valley was exclusively about Shakky then I’d understand

But with all the things surrounding it (Davy Clan, Rocks’ fall, Shanks and Shamrock’s place of birth, Teach, young Dragon potentially turning against the Navy, the unknown treasures, etc) I really could care less

I’m not going to claim the entire event is ruined because of the trigger while completely ignoring everything that actually takes place during the event

But to each their own
Roger Garling WB Ray Gaban Shiki Sommers all fought over Shakky. Garp came to goon over Roger but that's normal for him

Goon valley memes actually came true
 
#27
. it also sexism to such a degree, Skakky was treated nothing more than an object for men. Like these goons believe she will fall in love with anyone who will come to save her even though she has her sight on Rayleigh. However they didnt have much of a relationship that we could see because of Oda off panels or lack of telling or showing.

These pirates just lust over her and people need to know lust is different from love.
Sexism and objectification in a manga about pirates. What a twist.

Shakky is just a plot device for Roger being there and to build potential conflict with Garling and that is totally okay. We don't need complex context here.

Fighting for women and treating them as object or slave is thematically correct for pirates and underutilized in One Piece. Or has this happened before?

This just adds to the major pirate vibes that have been lost recently in the manga.
 
#28
It isn’t a joke remember how strawhats went to enies lobby for robin or wb marineford for ace
They fought for robin because the bond they have with her she's there crewmate and would do anything to protect her

Same for whitebeard who fought for ace because his family to him and the rest of the crew with Newgate it's father laying his life on the line to save his son

And yeah it's a joke
 
#30
Roger Garling WB Ray Gaban Shiki Sommers all fought over Shakky. Garp came to goon over Roger but that's normal for him

Goon valley memes actually came true
But Shakky isn’t the focus of God Valley

God Valley is really about the fall of Rocks

This isn’t like Marineford where Ace is the center of attention and the entire story revolves around his escape

Shakky may be the reason why people gathered but everything that followed has little to do with her

What does Dragon potentially defecting from the Marines have to do with Shakky?

What does Rocks and his eventual downfall likely by the hands of Imu have to do with Shakky?

What does Shanks’ origin and later recruitment by Roger have to do with Shakky?

I could go on but I think you already see my point. Shakky is merely the trigger for the event and she’s irrelevant past that

She’s only truly important narratively for Rayleigh and maybe Garling

That’s why it confuses me when people make a big deal out of it (which is thankfully becoming far less common as we learn more about the event)

Like every chapter comes out with numerous details and the only thing that you can think of is “ahhh but this all started because of Shakky so it’s ruined”

Who cares lol
 
#32
Too many problems to count with this flashback.​
Rocks being portrayed as “sympathetic” instead of the real pos he is is what’s ruining it fer me.
Rocks fighting Kaidou for Harald, that's Luffy's gimmick. T'was bad that moment on.

Garp extreme focus on Roger for no good reason, when there were supposedly more strong pirates like Rocks. Or bigger matters in the world.

Roger n ol supposedly great pirates lustin over Shakky, and all gathering in God Valley for her.
If one character does it, all right gimmick. But if everyone do that, Onepiss it is:Armstrong:
 
#33
Garp extreme focus on Roger for no good reason, when there were supposedly more strong pirates like Rocks
They're Battle Brothers. Just 2 Leeroys lookin for their Jenkins. Even though their positions should dictate that they fight for a deeper purpose (like Davy), they just fight for the sake of it. To me that's fine, heterosexually romantic even. But they gotta be isolated, just the 2 of them

Roger n ol supposedly great pirates lustin over Shakky, and all gathering in God Valley for her.
I think the only part of early Boa Hancock I enjoyed was her having no effect on Luffy. Wish Roger shared that in common :lusalty:
 
#34
But Shakky isn’t the focus of God Valley

God Valley is really about the fall of Rocks

This isn’t like Marineford where Ace is the center of attention and the entire story revolves around his escape

Shakky may be the reason why people gathered but everything that followed has little to do with her

What does Dragon potentially defecting from the Marines have to do with Shakky?

What does Rocks and his eventual downfall likely by the hands of Imu have to do with Shakky?

What does Shanks’ origin and later recruitment by Roger have to do with Shakky?

I could go on but I think you already see my point. Shakky is merely the trigger for the event and she’s irrelevant past that

She’s only truly important narratively for Rayleigh and maybe Garling

That’s why it confuses me when people make a big deal out of it (which is thankfully becoming far less common as we learn more about the event)

Like every chapter comes out with numerous details and the only thing that you can think of is “ahhh but this all started because of Shakky so it’s ruined”

Who cares lol
Never said it was ruined. Obv we gonna get more than that and the focus is always on Xebec who dont give a f about shakky.

All Im saying is shakky and gooner piece memes were true at the very end. Xebec hard carrying tho imo
 
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