General & Others Yeah shakky ruined god valley

#41
Shut up Oden is great


They don't care for her. They just want to rape her.


Is ridiculous how Oda made Garp to be in love with Roger. Like if Garp was hunting every damn pirate. But no he only cares about Roger. He is worse than Gloriosa.


Shakky is the whole reason Roger Pirates and Garp are there. There is no fucking rivalry between Rocks and Roger.


You mean he can do, right?


I don't disagree about that. I just disagree that the most hyped fight is around a woman as a prize and people simping towards her. There isn't even deep connections between her and those people. They just simp. Is not like Shakky and Rayleigh had a prohibitted love and Roger is helping his friends. There is no fucking rivalry between Rocks and Roger. Garp is only there because he is in love with Roger.

It is weird what I will say now but it is like at the same time Shakky is too important and too irrelevant.


I think it is even worse because no one is ever trying to get her love. Roger first interaction we saw with her was to kidnap. This is rape shit.
It's fandom idiocy that takes Roger's first interaction as meant to be literal kidnapping; the interaction doesn't even need be read as that.

They were clearly on good/friendly terms.
 
#48
It's pretty bad because Oda reduced Shakky, a captain of the Kuja pirates, into nothing more than a slab of meat to be preyed upon.

Nowhere did Oda foreshadow Shakky to be this important to the story. It truly felt like such a last-minute decision. In this flashback, Oda basically made Shakky into a plot device character because he was limited as an author and couldn't figure out a better way to gather all these guys into one spot... it also sexism to such a degree, Skakky was treated nothing more than an object for men. Like these goons believe she will fall in love with anyone who will come to save her even though she has her sight on Rayleigh. However they didnt have much of a relationship that we could see because of Oda off panels or lack of telling or showing.

These pirates just lust over her and people need to know lust is different from love.
Its a Helen of troy reference
 
#49
He says with all words that he is going to kidnap her. There is absolutely nothing friendly about it.

If wasn't for Gloriosa love for Roger they'd all be wiped out
"Win her from you" is the translation I recall
In a megaphone and then the crew acts goofy as fuck.
Illiteracy is a serious thing.
 
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