Questions & Mysteries Your opinion on Oda's treatment of the WSS title

[MonsterKaido]

kaido is the strongest because of his feat, people still denied kaido wsc status until recently

Haters hate bro

 

[RayanOO]

Bad, Zoro should have fought other guys with that dream / goal

But I like the ambiguity with the different titles.

The WSM had an equal
The WSS has a great rival that quit fighting him years ago
Etc

it think it’s fun and more interesting that the titles are not straight up facts

 

[Tai long]

Haters hate bro

funny thing is that people have mihawk above kaido yet expect people to accept miahwks title

 

[Fn Lucci]

Bad, Zoro should have fought other guys with that dream / goal

But I like the ambiguity with the different titles.

The WSM had an equal
The WSS has a great rival that quit fighting him years ago
Etc

it think it’s fun and more interesting that the titles are not straight up facts

Who had a more recent challenge, Mihawk with Shanks or Newgate with Roger?

 

[Taylor_]

WSS but a mere a warlord below Admirals and replaced by Toys

Nobody sees the title,
Not Vista nor Smoothie or any tip swordsman except Zoro and Kuina

It is a shallow title and dream made just for Zoro to have somewhat a goal to follow

Imagine the land of Samurai doesn't even wank Minawk, he'd not even mentioned that he visited

Need to blame Oda for that.

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

The WSM had an equal
The WSS has a great rival that quit fighting him years ago
Etc

"WSM" was at least true once Roger died. Whitebeard was treated as the strongest character—albeit hindered by his ilness—before his death.

 

[Finalbeta]

One thing I don't like is how not many discuss about it, but on the other hand there are many elements that indicate how Mihawk is arguably more potent than Shanks.

I guess I can't complain about its general treatment. 🧐🧐

 

[RayanOO]

"WSM" was at least true once Roger died. Whitebeard was treated as the strongest character—albeit hindered by his ilness—before his death.

Yeah but only after Roger death.
And he had the title before Roger died.

so for a time he had the title while being Roger equal

Who had a more recent challenge, Mihawk with Shanks or Newgate with Roger?

I don’t really understand your question (sorry lol)

 

[Fn Lucci]

I don’t really understand your question (sorry lol)

Lol no prob, it was rhetorical anyway.

Newgate's rival died twenty years before he did. When Newgate died no one claimed it. Kaido doesn't have a rival, if Luffy beats him the possibility of obtaining the title is coincidental at best. Mihawk had Shanks, and now that he has Zoro (if only because he has Zoro, even) he's content with not having Shanks.

You say WSS is kinda bad but it's the only relevant "strongest" title in the series. The idea that there should be a bunch of people with this goal is a common fan wish but has nothing to do with the story.

 

[RayanOO]

You say WSS is kinda bad but it's the only relevant "strongest" title in the series. The idea that there should be a bunch of people with this goal is a common fan wish but has nothing to do with the story.

Yeah it’s a PK story some it’s normal that we are focusing on that part

But Zoro being the only one in the WSS race is kinda weird

While Everyone is racing for PK

Newgate's rival died twenty years before he did. When Newgate died no one claimed it. Kaido doesn't have a rival, if Luffy beats him the possibility of obtaining the title is coincidental at best. Mihawk had Shanks, and now that he has Zoro (if only because he has Zoro, even) he's content with not having Shanks

Mohawk had someone from his gen to contend with

But I agree that WSM or WSC are not titles that people fight for

 

[Fn Lucci]

Yeah it’s a PK story some it’s normal that we are focusing on that part

But Zoro being the only one in the WSS race is kinda weird

While Everyone is racing for PK



Mohawk had someone from his gen to contend with

But I agree that WSM or WSC are not titles that people fight for

Many are racing for PK because it means a shitload of treasure and the most coveted prize, One Piece. There's nothing you really get for being WSS except for the honor of being strongest with a sword in and of itself.

So one title has a bunch of money and fame where the other one doesn't. Sounds like it makes sense why one is popular and the other isn't?

 

[Peenix]

It's gotten exactly as much focus as I expected from the beginning
It's important as it relates to Zoro's character but it doesn't have much relevance outside of that

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

It’s not negative but it is neglected. So bad but it isn’t downplayed.

 

[HA001]

Yeah it’s a PK story some it’s normal that we are focusing on that part

But Zoro being the only one in the WSS race is kinda weird

While Everyone is racing for PK



Mohawk had someone from his gen to contend with

But I agree that WSM or WSC are not titles that people fight for

Why would they be after zoro and not mihawk

 

[CbShadow]

Mihawk is the WSS and nothing can change that. He is stronger than people like Shanks and Fujitora. He's the only one currently alive with an official world strongest title. The fact we don't have a new WSM title makes him a contender for that title.

Some don't understand that if Kaido was the WSM Oda would have made it official but he can't since we have characters growing stronger. Even Mihawk said he would stay at the top until Zoro is ready to face him.

Alot shit on the WSS title because it's connected to Zoro. The haters can't stand for Zoro to be strong and impressive. That has been true for anything connected to Zoro.

ACoC was one of the greatest and strongest power in the manga until Zoro obtained. Now, somehow isn't impressive nor a strong feat.

When Zoro cut Pica's mountain size golem in to pieces it wasn't impressive because it was just stone. When Law techniques failed to beat Big Mom but destroyed stone/rock now destroying rock/stone is one of the greatest and strongest feats in the manga.

 

[pg13]

Only time the Title had weight in the story

 

[Finalbeta]

Only time the Title had weight in the story

And he built one of the neatest portrayals in history

The Grandmaster is probably still catching up to Mihawk's greatness :cheers:

 

[MonsterKaido]

I hope we see more powerful characters competing on becoming WSS

 

[Finalbeta]

I hope we see more powerful characters competing on becoming WSS

Maybe Shanks wanted to but he realized he could not compete with Mihawk anymore :cheers:

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

My theory is Yonkou Shanks and Mihawk dueled, Mihawk won and got "World's Strongest Swordsman" title by default,aw it as a shallow victory because Shanks had one arm, and ceased any further duels.