Powers & Abilities Zeus carries Nami and its awful

#1
Looking back on it, I really dislike Nami vs Ulti. Because it isn't really Nami vs Ulti, a more proper name for that battle would probably be Big Mom vs Ulti. Because what did Nami really do?

Okay, Ulti is strong, I get it. So Oda needed to nerf her by having her get her insides shredded by big mom. Its kinda shit, but fine. The problem is that even after that, Nami had absolutely nothing to do with Ulti's defeat. She used zeus to enhance her clima-tact and smack an already nerfed Ulti for negligible damage, and that's about it. After that she used a massive attack with zeus, the attack missed, and zeus re-directed it so that it would hit Ulti.
So basically Big Mom took out 90% of Ulti's HP and Zeus, big mom's homie, took out the other 10%.

With Big Mom, Zeus is a legitimate weapon. Like Zoro's sword or Yasopp's gun. Zeus was something big mom created herself, which she uses to increase her speed and mobility, as well as enhance her punches and slashes. When Kid and Law are fighting big mom, its Linlin who is the real threat, not Hera, prometheus, or napoleon. Those are just Big Mom's tools.

But with Nami, Zeus seems like like a tool and more like a pokemon that Nami can just set upon her enemies. It takes literally zero skill from Nami's part. I don't understand why every other SH has their own strength and creates their own power ups, whereas Nami, one of 2 women on the crew, just has it handed to her. Being over 1000+ chapters into the series, Oda could chose to change how Nami is portrayed. Have her create her own power ups and make herself stronger like everyone else. But nope, everything is just handed to her.

Usopp gives her a clima-tact upgrade. She gets to just steal zeus because big mom is retarded in WCI, and now zeus gets embedded into her weapon, making it stronger. I will admit, yeah I guess she did steal a weapon from a yonko, for all that's worth. But it just seems cheap, when every other straw hat gets stronger with their own strength. You can even look at something like Sanji's germa power ups and see the difference. His gene power up was a one time thing and he subsequently used it to create a power up for himself with Ifrit jambe.

It just bothers me because Nami was one of the founding members of the straw hat pirates and Oda likes to make her seem important, but imo Oda's writing of her character has steadily declined as time passes.
 
#5
Nami had no chance against Ulti.
Oda is a hack. He totally wrote it as conveniently for Nami as possible.
He just made Ulti look monstrous in comparison.
Ulti shouldve fought Jinbe
Forcin these women to women fight aint it
The power lvl difference between Ulti and nami is massive
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How would you have powered her in a way that is believable to face new world fighters as straw hats are supposed to become a Pirate King level crew in a few months in story?
Oda doesn't view Nami as proper fighter and gave her Zeus so she's not a total deadweight in battle
Nami vs Black Maria
Robin vs Page1
 

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#8
I think most people forget the fact that Nami is supposed to be a artillery type fighter and not a cqc fighter. Zeus is part of her abilities, don't see anything wrong with it. That's like saying Gomu Gomu carrying Luffy, swords carrying Zoro, RS carrying Sanji, slingshot carrying Usopp, Monster Points carrying Chopper, etc. which is not true. That's why Big Mom nerfed Ulti so the fight would be more fair for Nami.
 
#9
Ulti shouldve fought Jinbe
Forcin these women to women fight aint it
The power lvl difference between Ulti and nami is massive
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Nami vs Black Maria
Robin vs Page1
At least Robin vs Page One wouldn't have ended in a one shot

You could've given Usopp and Nami vs Black Maria which could've been more interesting... expect Nami would be dead weight there because if Black Maria hits her then Nami goes down leaving Usopp by himself.

Then we'd need Tama to save her and Big Mom to defeat Black Maria because Nami is incapable of doing anything of value on her own.

Looking at Nami now, you wouldn't believe she could fight Kalifla and actually win.
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I think most people forget the fact that Nami is supposed to be a artillery type fighter and not a cqc fighter. Zeus is part of her abilities, don't see anything wrong with it. That's like saying Gomu Gomu carrying Luffy, swords carrying Zoro, RS carrying Sanji, slingshot carrying Usopp, Monster Points carrying Chopper, etc. which is not true. That's why Big Mom nerfed Ulti so the fight would be more fair for Nami.
It wasn't fair for Nami because Nami didn't do anything.

Nami had no issue handling herself in Enies Lobby in a close combat fight.
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In all honesty, it's not even the fact that Nami couldn't beat Ulti.

It's the fact Oda set it up and dragged it out with no real pay off. & her only good moment ( I can't even call it that ) came from a fight that was off screened.
 
#11
At least Robin vs Page One wouldn't have ended in a one shot

You could've given Usopp and Nami vs Black Maria which could've been more interesting... expect Nami would be dead weight there because if Black Maria hits her then Nami goes down leaving Usopp by himself.

Then we'd need Tama to save her and Big Mom to defeat Black Maria because Nami is incapable of doing anything of value on her own.

Looking at Nami now, you wouldn't believe she could fight Kalifla and actually win.
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It wasn't fair for Nami because Nami didn't do anything.

Nami had no issue handling herself in Enies Lobby in a close combat fight.
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In all honesty, it's not even the fact that Nami couldn't beat Ulti.

It's the fact Oda set it up and dragged it out with no real pay off. & her only good moment ( I can't even call it that ) came from a fight that was off screened.
Robin took dozen of punches from BM and her physical abilitiers are nothing special (in race she'd be below the two weaklings), I think Nami could have taken some without going down. Pre TS Nami could take some hits.
Anyway I really don't get what is going on in Oda's mind, what's the point of setting up and increasing the antagonism between Nami and her opponent if she's not not actually going do anything?
Oda my man, if you don't want Nami to be a fighter or grow as one, don't involve her in fights. Have her do stealing stuff or dedicate some navigation chapters between islands whatever. But this? Nobody want it
 
#13
Robin took dozen of punches from BM and her physical abilitiers are nothing special (in race she'd be below the two weaklings), I think Nami could have taken some without going down. Pre TS Nami could take some hits.
Anyway I really don't get what is going on in Oda's mind, what's the point of setting up and increasing the antagonism between Nami and her opponent if she's not not actually going do anything?
Oda my man, if you don't want Nami to be a fighter or grow as one, don't involve her in fights. Have her do stealing stuff or dedicate some navigation chapters between islands whatever. But this? Nobody want it
Pre timeskip Nami also got hurt on screen.

Post timeskip Nami is so protected.
 
#15
Looking back on it, I really dislike Nami vs Ulti. Because it isn't really Nami vs Ulti, a more proper name for that battle would probably be Big Mom vs Ulti. Because what did Nami really do?

Okay, Ulti is strong, I get it. So Oda needed to nerf her by having her get her insides shredded by big mom. Its kinda shit, but fine. The problem is that even after that, Nami had absolutely nothing to do with Ulti's defeat. She used zeus to enhance her clima-tact and smack an already nerfed Ulti for negligible damage, and that's about it. After that she used a massive attack with zeus, the attack missed, and zeus re-directed it so that it would hit Ulti.
So basically Big Mom took out 90% of Ulti's HP and Zeus, big mom's homie, took out the other 10%.

With Big Mom, Zeus is a legitimate weapon. Like Zoro's sword or Yasopp's gun. Zeus was something big mom created herself, which she uses to increase her speed and mobility, as well as enhance her punches and slashes. When Kid and Law are fighting big mom, its Linlin who is the real threat, not Hera, prometheus, or napoleon. Those are just Big Mom's tools.

But with Nami, Zeus seems like like a tool and more like a pokemon that Nami can just set upon her enemies. It takes literally zero skill from Nami's part. I don't understand why every other SH has their own strength and creates their own power ups, whereas Nami, one of 2 women on the crew, just has it handed to her. Being over 1000+ chapters into the series, Oda could chose to change how Nami is portrayed. Have her create her own power ups and make herself stronger like everyone else. But nope, everything is just handed to her.

Usopp gives her a clima-tact upgrade. She gets to just steal zeus because big mom is retarded in WCI, and now zeus gets embedded into her weapon, making it stronger. I will admit, yeah I guess she did steal a weapon from a yonko, for all that's worth. But it just seems cheap, when every other straw hat gets stronger with their own strength. You can even look at something like Sanji's germa power ups and see the difference. His gene power up was a one time thing and he subsequently used it to create a power up for himself with Ifrit jambe.

It just bothers me because Nami was one of the founding members of the straw hat pirates and Oda likes to make her seem important, but imo Oda's writing of her character has steadily declined as time passes.
Nami (with Zeus) would have beaten a 100% Ulti
 
#17
Pre timeskip Nami also got hurt on screen.

Post timeskip Nami is so protected.
This is why I say Oda should not involve her in fights if this is going to be a circus like this.
Either he stops treating Nami like a baby doll or her role in battle should stick to fodders cleaning.
I was actually looking forward to Usopp & Nami fight and this is may be my one of my biggest disappointments these last years
 
#19
And they have the same height and build as well lol

Oda forcin a victory for Nami is wack as hell
When earlier Ulti could match Yamato with Kairoseki on CqC

Ulti could low diff both usopp and nami at the same time
Forcin Oda to use deus ex machina via Tama
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Ulti vs Jinbe and Robin vs P1 make no sense thematically though
But arent Jinbe and robin together at the start of raid ?

They could write it thematically but Oda wants his women to women fight even if that doesnt make sense
 
#20
And they have the same height and build as well lol

Oda forcin a victory for Nami is wack as hell
When earlier Ulti could match Yamato with Kairoseki on CqC

Ulti could low diff both usopp and nami at the same time
Forcin Oda to use deus ex machina via Tama
Base Nami actually could do a lot of damage to Ulti. Her Thunderbolt made Ulti drop like a rock and actually kept her down for a bit, which is why P1 by himself when BM showed up. Zeus Nami would always beat Ulti because, with Zeus, her AP is multiple times greater, and Zeus can make sure that the hit lands
 
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