General & Others Zoro and Sanji aren't ready.

#44
Hed destroy her. Only thing she has on him is durability....and thats due to the fact that hes sick and old. When WB is attack by fodders, he isnt sent flying backwards and treated like trash....he stands his ground, regardless of injuries.
so now you're saying wb is better, make up your mind

meme never got damaged by fodder, oda is very consistent, this is important to power levels

meme having low iq & tripping all the time holds no significance in regards to power levels
 
#47
so now you're saying wb is better, make up your mind

meme never got damaged by fodder, oda is very consistent, this is important to power levels

meme having low iq & tripping all the time holds no significance in regards to power levels
Im saying WB is only worse in durability....and thats cause he aint in his prime

Meme gets constantly embrassed and stopped by fodders. She isnt even a threat to them, and they have no reason to be afraid of her.

Low Iq and tripping ? Tripping ? Stop undermining the SHs.....they are doing that to her. She isnt unconciously tripping....she is getting destroyed.
 

knuckleheadninja

Homeroom Teacher
#48
Finally someone coming up with this.
None of them are ready not even Luffy. I hope this arc will be a eye opener for these kids.
Bunch of supernovas teaming up to take down One Yonko and Zoro and Sanji teaming up with other to take down commanders. Other Straw Hats just keep messing around and I hope they can actually see the difference between a Yonko Crew and theirs.
 
#49
Im saying WB is only worse in durability....and thats cause he aint in his prime

Meme gets constantly embrassed and stopped by fodders. She isnt even a threat to them, and they have no reason to be afraid of her.

Low Iq and tripping ? Tripping ? Stop undermining the SHs.....they are doing that to her. She isnt unconciously tripping....she is getting destroyed.
Despite all those stats you gave WB over meme he got injured by fodder hundreds of times. Did strawhats get injured by 50000 fishmen? Do strawhats have crazy durability?

If she were to trip by herself then that would be embarassing indeed, strawhats teamwork is able to stall her cause she is dumb and goofy, nothing to do with power levels.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#50
Again beating this dead horse but gotta say it again for fans to not get too high hopes unless Oda wants to make One Piece a power scale mess but Zoro and Sanji aren't ready to fight YC and top tiers and nothing prove that they are.


Luffy went through the development and got stronger each arc by getting intense fights while Zoro and Sanji are chilling and for them to jump from nothing to taking on YC ALONE would make absolute no sense in the story.

First we gotta remember who are the quality fighters that we should worry about and it's : Kaido , King , Queen , Jack , Page One , Ulti , Who's Who (?) , Black Maria , Apoo (assuming he ain't gonna snake Kaido and turn against him) , Fukurokuju , Hotei


My Predictions as of right now :

- Zoro goes up with Luffy somehow and fights an injured Jack who just came off beating the Dukes then teams up with the rest of the Supernovas to take down Kaido (and maybe he get the finishing blow idc) , also i would appreciate if Zoro gets to beat Hotei even offscreen as in his request to become the GOAT swordsman he hand't beaten many in his journey

- Sanji would would probably teamup with Jinbei to take on Queen just like he did with Wadatsumi (maybe Who's Who joins them in that fight as there's a storyline there) , and maybe he gets a secondary fight against Fukurokuju

- The rest of the SH i honestly don't know , their lack of Haki obviously means they can't compete with the remaining TobbiRoppo so Black Maria , Who's Who (?) , Page One , Ulti and Sasaki (?) so they will probably match up with fodders most likely

- As for King , I think it's pretty obvious he's fighting the strongest remaining fighter that didn't go up and that's Marco.

- Apoo has to go up and either he snakes Kaido and join the Supernova teamup or he fights Kidd up there
I suggest you to read this.
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/why-zoro-is-a-top-tier-already.6747/
 
#51
him aiming for Kaido doesn't make him stronger than YCs, he's not going solo vs Kaido it's like 6v1 if not more at this point


if you're ready to have the discussion that Luffy Post-Time skip is weaker than Zoro and Sanji then you're welcome to have it cause the mf took into insane battles to improve vs Doffy , Cracker and Kata (got help in all 3) while Zoro and Sanji were chilling (and don't throw at me Emna/Germa Suit these aren't comparable power ups to Luffy)
I get where your coming from honestly, whatever doubts people have about the power levels of zoro and sanji, you need to get all that out of your system. Because were going to know where these characters are next chapter.........King and Queen are here, Numbers are here, Tobi Roppo are coming. We'll have the answers to the questions people been asking for about a decade now, Next Chapter...... a couple days.
 
#52
This is post ts EL, RS and Enma training are means to boost them from Blueno to Kaku/Jabra.

Zoro and Sanji were not top YC level prior to said boosts, got into top YC territory with said boost, and will solidify @ FM level by the end of the arc with the growth they get in combat.

Oda clearly does not intend to give them the Luffy route, thus he is inserting additional tools like Enma forcing Zoro to grow stronger through training to make use of it, and the RS boosting Sanji all around, leaving room for additional growth as he adjust to the possibilities opened by the RS.

Luffy "only" got the combat training to push him to Yonko FM level, they get these additional tools to make up for it, and will grow some in combat this arc.

Oda intends to end the manga in 5 years, and while it might take more, only Luffy get's to have that type of treatment for his strength development, as we're already couple steps away from the end game.
 
#56
I get where your coming from honestly, whatever doubts people have about the power levels of zoro and sanji, you need to get all that out of your system. Because were going to know where these characters are next chapter.........King and Queen are here, Numbers are here, Tobi Roppo are coming. We'll have the answers to the questions people been asking for about a decade now, Next Chapter...... a couple days.


Will see maybe i'm totally wrong and they end up taking 1v1 Ws or maybe we get annihilated as a whole alliance and as many speculated we will suffer a huge lose here but that wouldn't make sense if the series is ending in 5 years.


I hope everything would make sense by the end
 
#58
Again who are zoro and sanji gonna fight then? Imma make the case for both:
Zoro
- since dressrosa proved vet level guys are way under him. Now he's even stronger now.
- hasn't gone all out
- hasn't shown how much stronger he is since enma


Sanji
- was already vet level at least before the rs
- rs without combining dj clearly outclassed someone like P1
- he didn't go all out
- still has mutant gene if oda wants him to awaken it which is another all stats up for sanji

Even without these showing they should be somewhere on the yc tier oda does not care at all about power levels. I mean all the sh's made huge jumps in EL, luffy went from yc3 to yc1 in 1 fight, or brook 1 v 1ing BM etc. Oda makes his character as strong as they need to be and he's never cared if it made sense. Either they fighting top yc or they help with bm and kaido.
 
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