Powers & Abilities Zoro and Sanji will not fight calamities

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#1
If they fought YC now , then they must have growth rate higher than Luffy... jumping all these opponents to fight someone like king is awful
Let’s do a quick math;
Luffy with help of law beats Doffy only after gear 4
Also Luffy has to face sweet commander cracker with the help of Nami + new gear form so he will be able to put a fight against someone like Katakuri

Also what about the fateful battle with Blackbeard crew? Fights will be too boring.. no high stakes no tension..


Now there is also tons of characters that should have their time in Wano arc because after that arc the focus will shift to straw hats/Blackbeard/WG...Marco and supernovas and minks etc should be the ones who fight those guys

Here’s the matchups that make sense:

Marco vs king> Flying zoans, same position witch mean toughest opponent Marco could have

Queen vs hawkins/drake/sanji/scabbard as a 2 vs 1 battle

Jack vs dukes
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#4
Marco wont join the fight.
We are in Yonkos war arc, they cant be fighting some irrelevant underlings...
While Doffy is bad match-up for Sanji he isnt an issue for Zoro. While Doofy is an issue for Sanji, Queen seems pretty straight forward which Sanji could take on.
Blackbeard Pirates will be tricky fights for other reasons.
 
#5
You are right, it doesn't make any sense.
Sanji and Zoro should be at best and overall a bit weaker than DR Luffy, the one who needed Law and the gladiators to defeat Doflamingo. And Luffy had a mode to boost all of his stats for a brief amount of time in order to fight monsters such as Cracker or Doflamingo. Even that G4 is clearly stronger than anything they could come up with.

However too many years passed from their last all out 1 vs 1 battle, too many years from their last worth opponent.
They might receive some help but it'd be something like Nami's intervention against Cracker (Chopper and Usopp might be of some help against Queen and King), i can't see Sanji or Zoro fight alongside Drake, a scabbard or Hawkins against a calamity.
 
#6
Marco wont join the fight.
We are in Yonkos war arc, they cant be fighting some irrelevant underlings...
While Doffy is bad match-up for Sanji he isnt an issue for Zoro. While Doofy is an issue for Sanji, Queen seems pretty straight forward which Sanji could take on.
Blackbeard Pirates will be tricky fights for other reasons.
there is no way Zoro escapes from parasite
unless
Zoro's CoO = fuji and post WCI Luffy
he is faster than Doffy
Zoro as strong as G4 Luffy
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#8
there is no way Zoro escapes from parasite
unless
Zoro's CoO = fuji and post WCI Luffy
he is faster than Doffy
Zoro as strong as G4 Luffy
He can escape from Parasite the same way Luffy escaped = he was never under Parasite.
He doesnt need CoO, even if he get's hit by it, which Luffy didnt have to go through, he can still remove it with Asura.
Whether he is faster than Doffy or not is pointless, Zoro isnt a mobile combatant, which doesnt mean that he is slow.
Well, I always claimed that Zoro came back from time skip stronger than Luffy so... :kayneshrug:
 
#10
He can escape from Parasite the same way Luffy escaped = he was never under Parasite.
He doesnt need CoO, even if he get's hit by it, which Luffy didnt have to go through, he can still remove it with Asura.
Whether he is faster than Doffy or not is pointless, Zoro isnt a mobile combatant, which doesnt mean that he is slow.
Well, I always claimed that Zoro came back from time skip stronger than Luffy so... :kayneshrug:
Doffy could parasite the whole city
i don see him having trouble parasite 2 extraheads and 4 extra arms
 
#13
marco won't join the fight that was made pretty clear already with the great number of enemies and super novas and all they will cross paths but I think it would add more sicnificance if they fought along sides the retainers against the top enemies
 
#17
Luffy was pretty much already at least yc3 after the time skip. Doffy was destroyed by G4. Cracker was tough and Luffy had help all the time yet he went g4 just at the start and at the end of the fight.

Zoro until now, or better Killer, was just having a walk in the park. His strongest enemy before Killer was Pica who "was not even in the same league". So there are good chances that Zoro too come out of the time skip already pretty close or more to yc level.

Sanji had a bad portrayal with Vergo then with Doffy yet he dodged Kata's beam which means something and now he get the RS. Maybe Sanji too with a bit of effort from our side could be said to be almost there now, also he will probably get a yc2 (Queen) so he has less road to cover compared to Zoro.
 
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#18
Oda doesn't care much about power level. Luffy is going from getting one shoted by kaido to defeating him in 2 weeks.

Oda gave sanji and zoro power ups before the raid with enma and the rs, and they will grow enough during their fights to extreme diff their reapective opponents.
It actually Luffy, law and kid so 3 vs 1 at very least with Luffy being above the likes ok Katakuri and kid has already clashed with 3 Yonko crews
Marco wont join the fight.
We are in Yonkos war arc, they cant be fighting some irrelevant underlings...
While Doffy is bad match-up for Sanji he isnt an issue for Zoro. While Doofy is an issue for Sanji, Queen seems pretty straight forward which Sanji could take on.
Blackbeard Pirates will be tricky fights for other reasons.
He will join the fight, are you telling me the whole Marco search was for nothing? With weevil chased by marines and rocks rebirth it really becoming more obvious

You are right, it doesn't make any sense.
Sanji and Zoro should be at best and overall a bit weaker than DR Luffy, the one who needed Law and the gladiators to defeat Doflamingo. And Luffy had a mode to boost all of his stats for a brief amount of time in order to fight monsters such as Cracker or Doflamingo. Even that G4 is clearly stronger than anything they could come up with.

However too many years passed from their last all out 1 vs 1 battle, too many years from their last worth opponent.
They might receive some help but it'd be something like Nami's intervention against Cracker (Chopper and Usopp might be of some help against Queen and King), i can't see Sanji or Zoro fight alongside Drake, a scabbard or Hawkins against a calamity.
There is Too many enemies actually for them to fight... also the i can’t see argument is not really good enough.. I mean for example Wano break the rule of one piece arc where we went outside of the arc multiple times
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#19
He will join the fight, are you telling me the whole Marco search was for nothing? With weevil chased by marines and rocks rebirth it really becoming more obvious
There are plenty of people already involved, no need to bring in more side characters when main characters need spotlight...
Besides, Marco already said he wants to protect WB's village and that Nekomamushi should deliver his message to Luffy...
 
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