Powers & Abilities Zoro doesn’t know he has Ashura

[HerreraIsBack]

That moment is anime only. Never happened in the manga

In that case nevermind. Was so long I read the chapter I even thought it was cannon

 

[L57]

Sanji calls his ability the Flames of the Devil… Are you saying he thinks his flames are from the devil?

Zoro might know what asura is made off but he clearly knows what asura is dumbass

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

How ? It's not because no one told him he has CoC that Zoro doesn't know he has Ashura or that he doesn't use Santoryu.

… I’m saying Oda is introducing the idea that Zoro is incredibly uncurious about the abilities he himself has

So Oda is setting up that the same way Zoro doesn’t care or notice what he’s doing in KoH is CoC… Zoro is also likely unaware of the nature of what Ashura is… Zoro just does a thing and doesn’t think about what exactly he’s doing

Zoro might know what asura is made off but he clearly knows what asura is dumbass

zoro also has a king of hell mode that he knows he’s using without knowing he has CoC… And don’t insult me bitch ass piece of shit

 

[nik87]

He's not willing it into existence tho, he is creating an illusion to make it look like that.
The illusion is not increasing his power.

He is... It is literally confirmed by Vegapunk that >all things are brought into this world by desire(willpower)...
Zoro is not an illusionist, you made that up... It is increasing his power because it isn't an illusion.
In fact, it tripples his power because Asura is a trion demon god. Demon God is as much of an illusion as Sun God is.

 

[HellBlazer04]

Zoro is not an illusionist, you made that up... It is increasing his power because it isn't an illusion.

I didn't make it up. It's what Kaku said and he was to one who was fighting against Zoro. Oda used kaku to explain what that power was. It's as simple as that

 

[nik87]

I didn't make it up. It's what Kaku said and he was to one who was fighting against Zoro. Oda used kaku to explain what that power was. It's as simple as that

Indeed but Kaku is wrong about the illusion part.
We are way past wondering what Asura is after Vegapunk's explanation.
You just need to update the information.

 

[HellBlazer04]

Indeed but Kaku is wrong about the illusion part.
We are way past wondering what Asura is after Vegapunk's explanation.
You just need to update the information.

I don't think vegapunk explanation applies to this but anyways we'll see that in the future if it's true or not

 

[nik87]

I don't think vegapunk explanation applies to this but anyways we'll see that in the future if it's true or not

Why not when he literally said >All things are brought into this world by desire?
Zoro was never a magician capable of illusions, he always desired Strength and Demon God is the ultimate manifestation of Strength.

You should start looking at this from EOS perspective, Zoro needs to beat the strongest character in the show in order to become strongest himself and illusions wouldn't get him anywhere against a Hawkeyed Mihawk who can see through probably anything.

Becoming a demon god is a fitting ability for the strongest character in the show and Imu literally hinted at this by saying demons are the pinnacle. The only thing left is lifting his haki(and blades) to the #1 spot in the world.

 

[HellBlazer04]

Why not when he literally said >All things are brought into this world by desire?
Zoro was never a magician capable of illusions, he always desired Strength and Demon God is the ultimate manifestation of Strength.

You should start looking at this from EOS perspective, Zoro needs to beat the strongest character in the show in order to become strongest himself and illusions wouldn't get him anywhere against a Hawkeyed Mihawk who can see through probably anything.

Becoming a demon god is a fitting ability for the strongest character in the show and Imu literally hinted at this by saying demons are the pinnacle. The only thing left is lifting his haki(and blades) to the #1 spot in the world.

Vegapunk said that in context of devil fruits. Not other powers tho

 

[nik87]

Vegapunk said that in context of devil fruits. Not other powers tho

But that is the whole point of >All things...
Not just Devil Fruits...

 

[Zenos7]

He's not willing it into existence tho, he is creating an illusion to make it look like that.
The illusion is not increasing his power.

how come the illusionary heads can talk then? is zoro faking that the kinemon style, with farts?

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I don't think vegapunk explanation applies to this but anyways we'll see that in the future if it's true or not

maybe in an sbs lmao

 

[HellBlazer04]

how come the illusionary heads can talk then? is zoro faking that the kinemon style, with farts?

Because they're illusions. Since it's an illusion then it will look like the other heads are talking as well because zoro is talking from his main body as well.

maybe in an sbs lmao

Probably, cuz I don't think oda plans to explain more than he already has

 

[Zenos7]

Because they're illusions. Since it's an illusion then it will look like the other heads are talking as well because zoro is talking from his main body as well.

damn so zoro is even a ventriloquist

 

[HellBlazer04]

damn so zoro is even a ventriloquist

Not exactly the same thing but if you want to call it that then fine

 

[smallpecker84]

Zoro doesn't know anything. His retardation is only exceeded by Luffy. He might as well be blind.

 

[Robin swan]

Zoro himself named it asura so he knows he's doing it. If it's tied to some kinda secret power zoro may not know that power but he knows he's using asura.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Zoro himself named it asura so he knows he's doing it. If it's tied to some kinda secret power zoro may not know that power but he knows he's using asura.

Zoro also named King of Hell that… He randomly started calling himself a King when he got king’s haki… yet he didn’t know he had king’s haki

Zoro named some ability he has Ashura but he doesn’t know it is or what he’s doing

 

[nik87]

Zoro also named King of Hell that… He randomly started calling himself a King when he got king’s haki… yet he didn’t know he had king’s haki

Zoro named some ability he has Ashura but he doesn’t know it is or what he’s doing

He at least knows that it is a 9-sword style.
Whether he knows that it is a manifestation of desire for Power in another matter.

 

[Robin swan]

Zoro also named King of Hell that… He randomly started calling himself a King when he got king’s haki… yet he didn’t know he had king’s haki

Zoro named some ability he has Ashura but he doesn’t know it is or what he’s doing

Zoro didn't understand coc apparently to sense it all this time. Zoro understand he's using stronger haki he just didn't know it was coc. He actively knows he's creating extra arms and heads and saying asura everything. Yall are dragging this for no reason. So can I say does zoro even know he's using swords because he didn't know coc? You literally pick in aspect of zoro and ask if zoro knows he's doing it. Him not know he has coc is dumb but you can't now just stretch that to try to question everything. When zoro used asura on kaido he flat out told law that was his best. Thus is showing zoro is acutely aware he's doing asura and has it. He wouldn't know if it was related to bloodline or a special haki or something but he obviously knows he has it if he can say that abilis his best.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

I think he knows he has it, but can only use it under strict conditions. Everytime he uses it, he's heavily injured, and making a desperation attack. There will probably be a way for him to learn to control it, but for now, it's conditional.

He wasn't heavily injured in the Kaku