Current Events Zoro doesnt care about Vivi

#1
Nothing else to it. This was a nice moment for Zoro to show that he can be actually smart sometimes and also he finally got crew interactions. But lets get this straight....the dude is not always level headed or logical like people are saying. Hes the only one who is calm in this situation because he cares the least about Vivi out of the Alabasta group. This isnt a crazy idea since he gave zero shits about her when she left either.

When it came to Yasu's death, hes logical reasoning was thrown out the window and he proceeded to try and hurt Orochi. Luckily Denjiro stopped him or the entire raid wouldve been a disaster. He also later on proceeded to not stop Luffy when he wasted stamina on gifters and headliners....and instead helped him. Why ? Because they made fun of Tama. Again a super dumb reason to go on a fighting spree with Luffy when they should be conserving energy for Kaido. And these examples are just from this past arc.

Zoro is less emotional than the SHs.....however when it comes to fighting his logical reasoning goes out the window. And lets be real the only reason he doesnt wanna save Vivi is because it'll just slow down their progress. The only type of people he'd go out his way for for that is SHs.

Before anyone brings up Sanji....Zoro trusted that whatever he did he had reason and that he was always coming back.
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So yh this chap was a good moment for Zoro's analystical side to come out. But dont say that this is how he always is, hes a VC and that he isnt reckless. And also dont say that the other SHs are always irrational and cant be logical....again all of this is due to circumstance of all of them deeply caring about Vivi....and him not caring barely at all.
 
#2
Zoro is unlucky to be in a childish crew full of morons. He and Law creating a new CG would be the best thing in their careers.

On a serious note, if not for Zoro who is absolutely right about rushing to a place without even know if Vivi is there, and even if she indeed was you cannot invade MJ with a total crew of 6 fodders and a completely idiot captain that will break havoc in 2 minutes they would end up dead.

Nitpicking stuff like this is extreme cope.
 
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#3
Zoro is unlucky to be in a childish crew full of morons. He and Law creating a new CG would be the best thing in their careers.

On a serious note, if not for Zoro who is absolutely right about rushing to a place without even know if Vivi is there, and even if she indeed was you cannot invade MJ with a total crew of 6 fodders and a completely idiot captain that will break havoc in 2 minutes.

Nitpicking stuff like these is extreme cope.
Yes in this instance he was right. However the post isnt about this. Its about the fact that he doesnt always operate with logic or reason....and he could only in this instance because he has no attachment to Vivi
 

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#5
Yes in this instance he was right. However the post isnt about this. Its about the fact that he doesnt always operate with logic or reason....and he could only in this instance because he has no attachment to Vivi
What makes you think he has no attachment to Vivi?

Zoro stopped luffy and co from approaching usopp in W7 and said if usopp first few words aren't apologising then it's better to leave him.

So does that make zoro having no attachment to Usopp as well by your logic?


Zoro is just more practical.

Your yasu example is an exception because orochi was right in front of him and it happened at the spur of the moment. Anyone can lose mind in that situation but that isn't comparable to vivi situation at all
 
#6
He doesn't care for Vivi because he doesn't want to march into WG HQ when they have no idea where Vivi is, how Viv is, or if she even needs help or if she's even anywhere near WG HQ?

In a mission that's almost certainly suicidal, too.

Lol, what?

If Vivi was in HQ about to be executed, Zoro would have no issue marching in just like they broke through EL and he stood without wavering as government's flag burned.
 
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#7
Nothing else to it. This was a nice moment for Zoro to show that he can be actually smart sometimes and also he finally got crew interactions. But lets get this straight....the dude is not always level headed or logical like people are saying. Hes the only one who is calm in this situation because he cares the least about Vivi out of the Alabasta group. This isnt a crazy idea since he gave zero shits about her when she left either.

When it came to Yasu's death, hes logical reasoning was thrown out the window and he proceeded to try and hurt Orochi. Luckily Denjiro stopped him or the entire raid wouldve been a disaster. He also later on proceeded to not stop Luffy when he wasted stamina on gifters and headliners....and instead helped him. Why ? Because they made fun of Tama. Again a super dumb reason to go on a fighting spree with Luffy when they should be conserving energy for Kaido. And these examples are just from this past arc.

Zoro is less emotional than the SHs.....however when it comes to fighting his logical reasoning goes out the window. And lets be real the only reason he doesnt wanna save Vivi is because it'll just slow down their progress. The only type of people he'd go out his way for for that is SHs.

Before anyone brings up Sanji....Zoro trusted that whatever he did he had reason and that he was always coming back.
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So yh this chap was a good moment for Zoro's analystical side to come out. But dont say that this is how he always is, hes a VC and that he isnt reckless. And also dont say that the other SHs are always irrational and cant be logical....again all of this is due to circumstance of all of them deeply caring about Vivi....and him not caring barely at all.
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#9
What makes you think he has no attachment to Vivi?

Zoro stopped luffy and co from approaching usopp in W7 and said if usopp first few words aren't apologising then it's better to leave him.

So does that make zoro having no attachment to Usopp as well by your logic?


Zoro is just more practical.

Your yasu example is an exception because orochi was right in front of him and it happened at the spur of the moment. Anyone can lose mind in that situation but that isn't comparable to vivi situation at all
Usopp returning without aplogising wouldve stained Luffy's position and wpuldve been an embrassment to him. It would put his position as Captain in question. As much as Zoro cares about Usopp....he cares about the crew as whole more. And him not apologising would cause damage.

Whilst in Vivi's case he gave zero shits about whether shes alright or not. If they go and try to search for her....it wouldnt even be that much trouble. She wont actually be at Navy HQ anyways. But nah he makes ton of excuses and brings up Luffy's dead brother.

Look at how he reacted for Robin. How he didnt care about all the reckless things the SHs did. How he would go by himself and fight all of CP9 if it meant getting Robin.
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He doesn't care for Vivi because he doesn't want to march into WG HQ when they have no idea where Vivi is, how Viv is, or if she even needs help or if she's even anywhere near WG HQ?

In a mission that's almost certainly suicidal, too.

Lol, what?

If Vivi was in HQ about to be executed, Zoro would have no issue marching in just like they broke through EL and he stood without wavering as government's flag burned.
This iant about Navy HQ. He doesnt care for her because hes telling everyone to not go look for her. The muh..."Shes a strong woman" excuse dont work for a fodder that can get neg diffed by the Low Trio. Zoro just doesnt care enough to halt the journey of the crew.
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So he’s cold-hearted?
He was the most rational in this chapter
People can misinterpret his position but that’s how his character always is
Can yall read. Did I say hes cold hearted or he wasnt rational. He totally was rational however this thread is to bring up the fact he isnt always like this....and it was circumstantial because he doesnt care about Vivi as much as others. If this was Robin or any other weaker SH he'd go anywhere for them.
 
#10
Usopp returning without aplogising wouldve stained Luffy's position and wpuldve been an embrassment to him. It would put his position as Captain in question. As much as Zoro cares about Usopp....he cares about the crew as whole more. And him not apologising would cause damage.

Whilst in Vivi's case he gave zero shits about whether shes alright or not. If they go and try to search for her....it wouldnt even be that much trouble. She wont actually be at Navy HQ anyways. But nah he makes ton of excuses and brings up Luffy's dead brother.

Look at how he reacted for Robin. How he didnt care about all the reckless things the SHs did. How he would go by himself and fight all of CP9 if it meant getting Robin.
They knew what was up with Robin. They knew what was going on, so he barged in to save her.



This was his first reaction.

And once she knew what her circumstances were, he gave no fucks and stood before World Government's burning flag amidst a war's declaration to save her.

With Vivi, what will they accomplish by barging into HQ while having no knowledge?

  • Where is Vivi?
  • Is she even near HQ?
  • Do they even have any path to take to get to her, or they know nothing?
  • Does she even NEED help for sure?
They know fuck all. So he's telling Luffy to trust her and they don't have to go and suicide in a place likely completely irrelevant.

They CAN go and help if it turns out she needs help, as he said in the end. Stepping in when actually needed for sure.

If Vivi was in WG HQ, about to be executed or taken, he'd do it all over again for Vivi as he did for Robin. But that's not the case.
 

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#12
Usopp returning without aplogising wouldve stained Luffy's position and wpuldve been an embrassment to him. It would put his position as Captain in question. As much as Zoro cares about Usopp....he cares about the crew as whole more. And him not apologising would cause damage.

Whilst in Vivi's case he gave zero shits about whether shes alright or not. If they go and try to search for her....it wouldnt even be that much trouble. She wont actually be at Navy HQ anyways. But nah he makes ton of excuses and brings up Luffy's dead brother.

Look at how he reacted for Robin. How he didnt care about all the reckless things the SHs did. How he would go by himself and fight all of CP9 if it meant getting Robin.
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This iant about Navy HQ. He doesnt care for her because hes telling everyone to not go look for her. The muh..."Shes a strong woman" excuse dont work for a fodder that can get neg diffed by the Low Trio. Zoro just doesnt care enough to halt the journey of the crew.
"He cares about whole crew "


Same logic applies here.

Shs have no info on Vivi whereabouts. Luffy proposed two locations

A) Alabasta - beginning of grandline and it doesn't make sense for vivi to be there after she went missing from reverie. Traveling that far would waste resources without amounting anything

B) MJ - the last known location of Vivi and going there is just suicidal for whole crew.


So, being rational doesn't mean he doesn't care


As far as Robin is concerned then they knew where Cp9 taking Robin and they dont have time left as Cp9 was transporting robin from EL soon


So again different scenario
 
#14
They knew what was up with Robin. They knew what was going on, so he barged in to save her.



This was his first reaction.

And once she knew what her circumstances were, he gave no fucks and stood before World Government's burning flag amidst a war's declaration to save her.

With Vivi, what will they accomplish by barging into HQ while having no knowledge?

  • Where is Vivi?
  • Is she even near HQ?
  • Do they even have any path to take to get to her, or they know nothing?
  • Does she even NEED help for sure?
They know fuck all. So he's telling Luffy to trust her and they don't have to go and suicide in a place likely completely irrelevant.

They CAN go and help if it turns out she needs help, as he said in the end. Stepping in when actually needed for sure.

If Vivi was in WG HQ, about to be executed or taken, he'd do it all over again for Vivi as he did for Robin. But that's not the case.
Zoro knows Vivi is much as an ally as Robin. But he would do far more for Robin than Vivi.

Again who said they need to go Navy HQ. Zoro wasnt only against going to Navy HQ. He was against finding her in general. And made up excuses such as Ace or that shes a strong woman.
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"He cares about whole crew "


Same logic applies here.

Shs have no info on Vivi whereabouts. Luffy proposed two locations

A) Alabasta - beginning of grandline and it doesn't make sense for vivi to be there after she went missing from reverie. Traveling that far would waste resources without amounting anything

B) MJ - the last known location of Vivi and going there is just suicidal for whole crew.


So, being rational doesn't mean he doesn't care


As far as Robin is concerned then they knew where Cp9 taking Robin and they dont have time left as Cp9 was transporting robin from EL soon


So again different scenario
No Zoro turned down the entire idea for searching for her. If this was any other weak SH...he wouldnt dare.
 
#15
"Mr. Bushido" and Vivi didnt have a great bond indeed. I rarely remember them talking. By the way Zoro was right in this situation,it was pointless to go to Alabasta or Marejoa,and at the same time its true that he also had moments when he went full rage. I think in this situation,though,he would have said the same things even if he was angry. But at the same time he would have looked angrier while talking to Luffy.
 
#17
Zoro knows Vivi is much as an ally as Robin. But he would do far more for Robin than Vivi.

Again who said they need to go Navy HQ. Zoro wasnt only against going to Navy HQ. He was against finding her in general. And made up excuses such as Ace or that shes a strong woman.
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No Zoro turned down the entire idea for searching for her. If this was any other weak SH...he wouldnt dare.
Yes... again, Robin was in EL, about to be taken away. So they marched in.

Why would Zoro want to suicide in WG HQ for no reason without even knowing what the fuck is happening about Vivi, if she's even there, or if she actually even needs help?

He gave Ace example saying that they should just trust her while they have no information, and step in if she actually needs help and saving. The fuck you want them to do? Just go and die somewhere unrelated because Vivi might be in trouble?
 
#19
Nothing else to it. This was a nice moment for Zoro to show that he can be actually smart sometimes and also he finally got crew interactions. But lets get this straight....the dude is not always level headed or logical like people are saying. Hes the only one who is calm in this situation because he cares the least about Vivi out of the Alabasta group. This isnt a crazy idea since he gave zero shits about her when she left either.

When it came to Yasu's death, hes logical reasoning was thrown out the window and he proceeded to try and hurt Orochi. Luckily Denjiro stopped him or the entire raid wouldve been a disaster. He also later on proceeded to not stop Luffy when he wasted stamina on gifters and headliners....and instead helped him. Why ? Because they made fun of Tama. Again a super dumb reason to go on a fighting spree with Luffy when they should be conserving energy for Kaido. And these examples are just from this past arc.

Zoro is less emotional than the SHs.....however when it comes to fighting his logical reasoning goes out the window. And lets be real the only reason he doesnt wanna save Vivi is because it'll just slow down their progress. The only type of people he'd go out his way for for that is SHs.

Before anyone brings up Sanji....Zoro trusted that whatever he did he had reason and that he was always coming back.
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So yh this chap was a good moment for Zoro's analystical side to come out. But dont say that this is how he always is, hes a VC and that he isnt reckless. And also dont say that the other SHs are always irrational and cant be logical....again all of this is due to circumstance of all of them deeply caring about Vivi....and him not caring barely at all.
You seem to have little to no understanding of Zoro's character. Zoro may be a serious guy and the type that has a hard time expressing his emotions, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have them. In fact, in Wano it has become very clear that if you have emotions empathizing with Tama, Yasuie or Kiku among others. Even in Zou, with the theme of Sanji, although he said to leave him alone, we can see how he is worried and listens to every word, something that Luffy himself indicates. With Robin he is the first to say that it is necessary to find her and clear up the matter. And with Usopp he also wants to settle the issue and that everything is solved but knowing that he can be trusted, since everyone's life depends on it. And in extreme circumstances he also allows himself to be guided by them, as is logical.

It's not that Zoro isn't worried about Vivi, nor is he saying to leave her to her own devices. Zoro is saying that in the current circumstances they can't do anything to help her, but when the time comes, even if they have to fight with the entire Navy, they will go to help her.

One Piece is a very primitive world with certain technological sparks, it is impossible to find a person without a Vivre Card. It only remains to wait for Vivi to decide to get in touch or for the newspapers to give more information.
 
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