Character Discussion Zoro downplay has reached a new height after chapter 1038
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How dare people not support Zoro, while in his current condition of not even being able to move a muscle, fights and defeats literal Death incarnate. The downplay is sickening.... What's next? He can't beat Kaido, Big Mom, Shanks, Mihawk, Akainu, Aokiji, Kizaru, Fujitora, Garp, Sengoku, Roger and Primebeard at the same time? When will the madness end? 
That's not enough, Luffy needs to die so that Zoro become the main character for them to be satisfied.
I browsed a lot of OP communities every week. This forum, mangahelpers, animesuki, popular youtubers comment section, /r/onepiece, discord servers, /opg/, twitter, and a local forum. From what I read, 1038 brings about powerlevel & kid/law discussion, then about yamato, instead of zoro downplay. Even then, the grim reaper identity and ninja fight is discussed more than people trashing zoro. Just visit those places if you don't believe me. Just because some people utter some BS, doesn't mean it is true. Vocal minority is always happening. Zoro is still great, don't get tilted because of a few fans rambling.
If you don't believe in the extreme cult fanatic theories you're a Zoro hater!
That's not enough, Luffy needs to die so that Zoro become the main character for them to be satisfied.
That's not enough, Luffy needs to die so that Zoro become the main character for them to be satisfied.
Honestly, I expect Zoro to be skipped for a dramatic reveal and a partial backfill of information, but I can also assume Zoro will battle Death when he next appears. Crazy right? There's a grim reaper standing over him but no, that's probably just a dumb fanboy thing.
Zoro puts fear in the hearts of haters every time he gets a plot point just like Zoro did with Monet.
Cause they know oda loves Zoro.
As always all we gotta do is wait anyway. Remember when 997 was a joke that somehow meant zoro would never get coc and definitely not foreshadowing?
Remember how Kaido didnt know what he was talking about in 1010 and Zoro doesnt have coc?
Remember odens haki?
Remember zoro would only get advcoc against mihawk?
Just sit back and wait a bit as always.
Cause they know oda loves Zoro.
As always all we gotta do is wait anyway. Remember when 997 was a joke that somehow meant zoro would never get coc and definitely not foreshadowing?
Remember how Kaido didnt know what he was talking about in 1010 and Zoro doesnt have coc?
Remember odens haki?
Remember zoro would only get advcoc against mihawk?
Just sit back and wait a bit as always.
the OP and whoever liked that his opening post say other wise.. the whole outlook isn't even what the opposition is supporting.. its based on how zoro will look depending on a "weakling" like brook for his survival disregarding any opinions related to it.. and some bigots deeming them "anti-zoro"
this doesn't stem from where the opposition (haters) stand on the matter.. it stems from some serious superiority-complex in support of their bias character.. they'd rather have zoro will his way out of it.. than get supported.
matter the fact there is nothing to gain for haters here this situation neither makes zoro look good or bad its brook that gains the shine... and just coz brook gets the shine doesn't mean that zoro looks bad
so there shouldn't be anything instinctive reactions.. and the whole point of haters supporting is null coz even the Z bois support the theory
its just next level copium from some folks..
this doesn't stem from where the opposition (haters) stand on the matter.. it stems from some serious superiority-complex in support of their bias character.. they'd rather have zoro will his way out of it.. than get supported.
matter the fact there is nothing to gain for haters here this situation neither makes zoro look good or bad its brook that gains the shine... and just coz brook gets the shine doesn't mean that zoro looks bad
so there shouldn't be anything instinctive reactions.. and the whole point of haters supporting is null coz even the Z bois support the theory
its just next level copium from some folks..
There is theories and there is absurd wishful thinking. The Grim Reaper (death itself) is one of the most powerful entities in existence. Something that exist on another plane, in a corporeal form, that one cannot simply just fight against it. But yall are expecting for someone who is basically on deaths door, who can't even lift a finger at the moment, to magically leap up and fight and defeat an omnipotent entity of the Astral realm. 
Lmao, the guy who didnt make it among the Crying Six but definitely deserves a spot is for sure you.
Vet level people dont beat top tiers under 15 minutes, god tier like Zoro does. If you think I am joking, remember that top tier like Kaido failed to beat a high tier like Yamato in twice the time in which Zoro clapped top tier King.
Petty ass bitches... when you're the one going to another thread to complain about them while that one is still active lol.
Brook makes for a dumb theory not because Zoro can't be helped: Oda literally shows us Franky nearby commenting on finding Zoro. Brook makes for a dumb theory because he is the only Straw Hat attending Robin. He can't attend two situations at once, he isn't nearly strong enough to even deal with CP0 if they catch up.
To boot, bringing someone back from death is insane and random. Revive isn't a one shot power, it's just that the individual can only revive once. If he is awakened and can bring anyone back once it upends the whole story. But even if he can only do it once, then of course that power would be reserved for Luffy, as opposed to saving Zoro BEFORE he dies. That's not the ability's description, and it makes zero sense to change the fruit's name to Revive if you want to conceal its potential.
Exactly. The difference is we don't have that need to exaggerate, people say dumb shit to spite Zoro whether they believe it or not. And they think you do the same for Sanji when you point out that he belongs in the kitchen or almost died from a nosebleed.
Brook makes for a dumb theory not because Zoro can't be helped: Oda literally shows us Franky nearby commenting on finding Zoro. Brook makes for a dumb theory because he is the only Straw Hat attending Robin. He can't attend two situations at once, he isn't nearly strong enough to even deal with CP0 if they catch up.
To boot, bringing someone back from death is insane and random. Revive isn't a one shot power, it's just that the individual can only revive once. If he is awakened and can bring anyone back once it upends the whole story. But even if he can only do it once, then of course that power would be reserved for Luffy, as opposed to saving Zoro BEFORE he dies. That's not the ability's description, and it makes zero sense to change the fruit's name to Revive if you want to conceal its potential.
Agree with you here. Enma's Spirit exists and Is the reason of his strength. :cheers:
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God forbid someone points out the obvious. stop whining about how people are ruining this "brilliant" theory. No you actually said that, brilliant. Lol. Meanwhile it won't be Brook.
The problem as it relates to Zoro is that he's clearly on the brink of death and acknowledged his ties to the underworld. That is his bond with Enma and the dead of the Shimotsuki clan. Usopp had much less overall when you think of the bond so strong that he encountered the Klabautermann. So downplay is really just to deny all this. We had Tashigi back in Logue Town say that swords have wills; and carry on for creators and previous owners. And we're in the thick of that lore with Enma, while Shusui was literally tied to the downfall of Wano, but fuck it right.
God forbid someone points out the obvious. stop whining about how people are ruining this "brilliant" theory. No you actually said that, brilliant. Lol. Meanwhile it won't be Brook.
The problem as it relates to Zoro is that he's clearly on the brink of death and acknowledged his ties to the underworld. That is his bond with Enma and the dead of the Shimotsuki clan. Usopp had much less overall when you think of the bond so strong that he encountered the Klabautermann. So downplay is really just to deny all this. We had Tashigi back in Logue Town say that swords have wills; and carry on for creators and previous owners. And we're in the thick of that lore with Enma, while Shusui was literally tied to the downfall of Wano, but fuck it right.
Rather than downplay is the fear of an enigmatic plot point because they don't know where it will end up.
-If it ends up on Black blade that would be catastrophic for Anti-Zoro Pirates because that would mean that Zoro surpassed Oden.
Funnily enough Oden is the only swordsman that Anti-Zoro Pirates never downplayed, they gave him the credit he deserved almost always as if he wasn't related to Zoro at all.
Maybe they underestimated his connections with Zoro or maybe the urge of protecting Yonko agenda was more prominent.
-If it ends up on adding fuel to ZKK it's even worse, no need to add words to explain this point
DISCLAIMER: I'm not saying that this subplot will end up in one of the points I made earlier, but I can sense that the fear is real on the opposite side since that they felt the exigency to make several posts pointing out that it's a Brook related plot more than Zoro.
-If it ends up on Black blade that would be catastrophic for Anti-Zoro Pirates because that would mean that Zoro surpassed Oden.
Funnily enough Oden is the only swordsman that Anti-Zoro Pirates never downplayed, they gave him the credit he deserved almost always as if he wasn't related to Zoro at all.
Maybe they underestimated his connections with Zoro or maybe the urge of protecting Yonko agenda was more prominent.
-If it ends up on adding fuel to ZKK it's even worse, no need to add words to explain this point
DISCLAIMER: I'm not saying that this subplot will end up in one of the points I made earlier, but I can sense that the fear is real on the opposite side since that they felt the exigency to make several posts pointing out that it's a Brook related plot more than Zoro.
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It does stem from opposition lol.
Just like how ZKK is at the very least fairly decent theory with a good bit of build-up, and no one sane can deny that deep down. But people lash out and bitch about any mention of it mostly because of opposition- some innate disdain towards people who support it.
And that's okay.
But no need to pretend that stuff like this doesn't exist all over. And no need to pretend that literally majority of people supporting this "Reaper is not Zoro's plot-line and he's basically a hype tool for Brook" aren't Zoro shittalkers. The people you're defending so desperately are same ones who would legit call you autistic and retarded for saying Zoro will ever fight Kaido (even in team battles). Toxicity goes both ways, and while Z-boys can be just as bad, frankly they have not been wrong about most of stuff they bet on- and got shittalked for.
With that said, obviously Oda is not going to be introducing a plot-line on Zoro only for it to not have him as focus. No offense to Brook, obviously. It's not about strength or weakness, it's about character focus and importance in the arc.
Just like how ZKK is at the very least fairly decent theory with a good bit of build-up, and no one sane can deny that deep down. But people lash out and bitch about any mention of it mostly because of opposition- some innate disdain towards people who support it.
And that's okay.
But no need to pretend that stuff like this doesn't exist all over. And no need to pretend that literally majority of people supporting this "Reaper is not Zoro's plot-line and he's basically a hype tool for Brook" aren't Zoro shittalkers. The people you're defending so desperately are same ones who would legit call you autistic and retarded for saying Zoro will ever fight Kaido (even in team battles). Toxicity goes both ways, and while Z-boys can be just as bad, frankly they have not been wrong about most of stuff they bet on- and got shittalked for.
With that said, obviously Oda is not going to be introducing a plot-line on Zoro only for it to not have him as focus. No offense to Brook, obviously. It's not about strength or weakness, it's about character focus and importance in the arc.
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I'm not Denying that some opposition has a hand but honestly not dominant
I'm not defending anyone I'm just seeing things as they patently stand.. ofc you have the right to your opinion but being dismissive for the reason that its brook given its not even certified that its a zoro centric plot that has begun (it can be for both zoro and brook) is just baloney
I'm telling you the shittalkers have nothing to gain from this zoro isn't gonna look bad if brook helps him out.. so mentioning shittalkers themselves is redundant in of itself..
iits patently obvious.. the fact that some zoro bois themselves support CD's theory and appreciate it if not posit it as a possibility proves that it's a very toxic bias from some in the z bois faction that just don't wanna see zorr getting helped just coz its brook and it'd be too dishonorable..
yyour evidence is the OP's post and this who liked it
note : if shit talkers undermine zoro using brooks help.. then its honestly pretty petty of you to get offended of that and disregard the option completely
I'm not defending anyone I'm just seeing things as they patently stand.. ofc you have the right to your opinion but being dismissive for the reason that its brook given its not even certified that its a zoro centric plot that has begun (it can be for both zoro and brook) is just baloney
I'm telling you the shittalkers have nothing to gain from this zoro isn't gonna look bad if brook helps him out.. so mentioning shittalkers themselves is redundant in of itself..
iits patently obvious.. the fact that some zoro bois themselves support CD's theory and appreciate it if not posit it as a possibility proves that it's a very toxic bias from some in the z bois faction that just don't wanna see zorr getting helped just coz its brook and it'd be too dishonorable..
yyour evidence is the OP's post and this who liked it
note : if shit talkers undermine zoro using brooks help.. then its honestly pretty petty of you to get offended of that and disregard the option completely
I don't actually know which post you mean but I wouldn't really be surprised. That dude does the most and I can't be the only one who disagrees with him on some things
But at least tag him instead of just talking about him
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But at least tag him instead of just talking about him
@ShishioIsBack