General & Others Zoro fans, based on what we know right now if Sanji beats Aokiji and Zoro beats Shiryu when the SH and BB crews clash how would you rationalize it?

[DonWick]

How would you rationalize this? I’m not saying this will happen, I don’t believe it will. This is a hypothetical.

 

[Bad English]

I don't know, i need to see it.

 

[Julius]

Until that point, Oda would need to boost up Shyriu's perfomance and abilities to make it believable that he is on par with Kuzan.

But honestly, i think Kuzan is supposed to face Koby. Garp's first pupil vs the new pupil seems pretty obvious to me

 

[gz89]

I will admit that the was stronger than the Admirals but

A) Sanji aint fighting Kuzan
B) Janitor aint stronger than the Admirals

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I always believed Shiryu would end up being a high top tier or god tier and thus superior to Kuzan.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Not necessary because Sanji isn’t fighting Kuzan

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Not necessary because Sanji isn’t fighting Kuzan

True, but then who do you think he'll fight?
I believe he'll fight Burgess.

 

[DonWick]

Until that point, Oda would need to boost up Shyriu's perfomance and abilities to make it believable that he is on par with Kuzan.

But honestly, i think Kuzan is supposed to face Koby. Garp's first pupil vs the new pupil seems pretty obvious to me

That would be a sure fire way to propel Koby to Luffys level. It would make BB parallel Xebec even more. It would also deal the Koby/Garp parallels.

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I always believed Shiryu would end up being a high top tier or god tier and thus superior to Kuzan.

God tier is wild. I’m sure Kuxan said all of them were to weak for old Garp.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

True, but then who do you think he'll fight?
I believe he'll fight Burgess.

Lafitte. The one who always gets special treatment among the BBP.
- Unique Introduction
- Only BBP able to avoid aces attacks on banaro
- Was the reason BB was able to enter and leave Marineford at will
- Threatened to kill any insubordinates post Marineford
- Reintroduced alongside Shiryu
- Gave Man marked by flame theory along with Shiryu
- Is most likely the one who’ll be connected to pudding plot since puddings role is to help the BBP create a map from the poneglyphs (Lafittes the cartographer)
- Chief of staff of the BBP according to Vivre Cards

 

[HA001]

Have you not seen the cover page

 

[DonWick]

Not necessary because Sanji isn’t fighting Kuzan

It’s a hypothetical. There really are isn’t a good opponent for Sanji as far as parallels go.

 

[Rukusho]

@DonWick the biggest thing is context and how it happens, is Aokiji wounded ? Is Sanji provided a temp buff ? Is it 2 vs 1 and Sanji gets the last attack ?

Context is the biggest thing in OP and how to come to proper conclusions in power scaling.

 

[zenox]

Doubt it matters to wingsu , the fandom in biggest trouble would be marines

 

[DonWick]

@DonWick the biggest thing is context and how it happens, is Aokiji wounded ? Is Sanji provided a temp buff ? Is it 2 vs 1 and Sanji gets the last attack ?

Context is the biggest thing in OP and how to come to proper conclusions in power scaling.

I agree. Let’s say that Sanjis been getting power ups prior to the arc and has a clean 1v1 and just wins.

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Have you not seen the cover page

Don’t know what you’re referring to.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Lafitte. The one who always gets special treatment among the BBP.
- Unique Introduction
- Only BBP able to avoid aces attacks on banaro
- Was the reason BB was able to enter and leave Marineford at will
- Threatened to kill any insubordinates post Marineford
- Reintroduced alongside Shiryu
- Gave Man marked by flame theory along with Shiryu
- Is most likely the one who’ll be connected to pudding plot since puddings role is to help the BBP create a map from the poneglyphs (Lafittes the cartographer)
- Chief of staff of the BBP according to Vivre Cards

That's Brook's opponent. It's pretty clear.

I agree. Let’s say that Sanjis been getting power ups prior to the arc and has a clean 1v1 and just wins.

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Don’t know what you’re referring to.

 

[DonWick]

That's Brook's opponent. It's pretty clear.

Of course I’ve seen this. This just makes Shiryu a first mate it doesn’t mean Shiryu > Aokiji

 

[Etzel Andergast]

That's Brook's opponent. It's pretty clear.

Navigator vs Navigator

 

[HA001]

Of course I’ve seen this. This just makes Shiryu a first mate it doesn’t mean Shiryu > Aokiji

Oda literally says it's not first mates it's power related

 

[Rukusho]

I agree. Let’s say that Sanjis been getting power ups prior to the arc and has a clean 1v1 and just wins.

I'd just have to accept it, I don't have an issue with Sanji being powerful (except CoC he't not built for it) if Oda can justify the "W" I have no qualms.

The Zoro vs Shiryu also isn't a problem for me unless Shiryu uses the DF the same way Absalom used it, Aokiji's performance against Garp was great, as @HA001 mentioned I'm hoping the cover page holds up and Shiryu can show some dope feats.

 

[JDragon20]

If nothingness is as broken as people think it'll be it doesn't matter cause only Zoro, and BB cause of the Yami, will be able to hit Shiryu at all in the verse.