Character Discussion Zoro has four legends/parallel to surpass, when will he surpassed each?

#1
4) Rayleigh
The previous vice captain/first hand mate of PK and in his prime, he was over Yonko level.

Elbaph in his fight vs HK?
Ray/Gaban can't defeat them permanently, can only temporarily mobilized the HK, but Zoro will?
And will get a shot or two against Imu?

3) Shanks
The one who challenged Mihawk is the past, and PK level.
Mihawk is looking for someone to even surpass Shanks' to challenge him

During his fight vs BBP or RHP by beating beckmann

2) Mihawk
The only above PK
During raftel?

1)Ryuma
The one above Joyboy
Will surpass in the final arc?

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#7
Oden is also a soft parallel, and he's just a bit under Prime Rayleigh. Those two will get surpassed together. Shanks doesn't matter because he'll be surpassed when Mihawk, the goal, is. Ryuma depends on how you scale him. He could be even beyond Mihawk.

Old Rayleigh Oden < Prime Rayleigh Ryuma/Mihawk Mihawk/Ryuma

Adult S-Hawk is a wild card. His ceiling could be very, very high.

Regardless, Zoro will become the strongest Hakiman Dai-Kengo to ever exist.
 
#17
Mihawk isn't PK level mate.
Plus saying Shanks was challenging mihawk is disingenuous when in fact the little interaction we have between the too it looks like it was Mihawk seeking Shanks for the fights.

plus Ray/Gaban can defeat the HK even in old age. didn't we just see Gaban Two shot one of them?
 
#18
Mihawk isn't PK level mate.
Plus saying Shanks was challenging mihawk is disingenuous when in fact the little interaction we have between the too it looks like it was Mihawk seeking Shanks for the fights.

plus Ray/Gaban can defeat the HK even in old age. didn't we just see Gaban Two shot one of them?
The problem with that is there's no such thing as PK Level. PK is not a strength based title.
 
#20
No need to count everyone Stronger than Chapter 2 Zoro as his Parallels that He must Surpass,
It's obvious that eventually He needs to Surpass them all,
His True Rivals are based on what He represents,

Chapter 1 started with Luffy declaring that He wants his Crew to Surpass Red-Hair Pirates & become Top 1 Crew (Quality Wise),
That automatically means that as a Captain, Shanks is Luffy's True Rival, while Beckman gonna be Rival of Luffy's Top Subordinate/First Mate,
Secondly, anyone can notice that Oda didn't make Beckman a Swordsman, nor did He make Shanks a Martial Artist,
Which brings us to Luffy & Zoro's Next Rivals, those who are based on their Fighting Styles, a Question that even Luffy & Zoro asked in Whisky Peak, as They wondered which is Superior? Swordsmanship (Armed Combat) or Martial Arts (Non-Armed Combat)?

Thankfully, Oda Introduced who They need to Surpass in East Blue, They are Mihawk & Dragon,
Neither of them are Pirate Captains, nor do They take Orders from a Pirate, meaning They are not included in Shanks & Beckman Supremacy,
Instead, their Purpose is to Rival Luffy/Zoro in Fighting Style, rather than Rank,
Finally, beside their Ranks & Preferred Fighting-Styles, Luffy & Zoro also view "Power" differently,
Luffy hypes his own Attacks by copying Firearms & different other Weapons/Tools,
While Zoro instead copies Beasts & different Animals/Mythical Beings,

It's basically a question of Science vs Nature,
It also relates to previous debate of Martial Artists vs Swordsmanship, as Luffy is like trying to make his Unarmed Fighting Style surpass any Weapon (His EOS Punch should be Superior than any Firearm ever Created), while Zoro is trying to make his Armed Fighting Style surpass any Creature/Natural Power;

So Overall, Luffy is on a Journey to Surpass Every Captain/Leader + Surpass Every Non-Armed Fighter + Surpass Every Weapon/Invention,
While Zoro is on a Journey to Surpass Every Subordinate/Soldier + Surpass Every Armed Fighter + Surpass Every Creature,

Shanks & Beckman are their First Milestone,
Dragon & Mihawk are their Second Milestone,
Two Final Villains are their Third Milestone, (Someone who has Access to All Weapons + Someone who has Access to All Creatures),

The Interesting part is that Beckman having a Rifle automatically makes him Part of Luffy's Journey,
While Shanks being a Swordsman also makes him Part of Zoro's Journey,

Same goes for Dragon & Mihawk, as Whisky Peak demonstrated that for Luffy & Zoro to still argue about which one is Superior between Swordsmanship & Martial Arts, They must be Second to None from Opposite Sides except each other, in other words, Luffy must Surpass Mihawk to continue that Debate with Zoro, while Zoro must Surpass Dragon to continue that Debate,

And finally, it seems that the Guy with Access to All Weapons is OPVerse Devil as indicated by Imu, and that means He is included in Supremacy of Demon King Asura, while Second Guy is probably OPVerse God, which also includes him in Sun God Supremacy, as it doesn't make sense for Story to End without Luffy being above anyone called "God" in OP World, and Zoro above anyone called "Devil/Demon" in OP World,

In Conclusion, the Six that Rival Zoro in becoming Greatest Warrior alongside Luffy are:

1. OPVerse Devil (Ultimate Science) + OPVerse God (Ultimate Creature, similar to Kars from JoJo)
2. Dragon (Best Martial Artist) + Mihawk (Best Swordsman)
3. Shanks (Best Captain) + Beckman (Best Vice Captain)

The Rest are either Old Relics or Silver Medalists.
 
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