Character Discussion Zoro should get more panel time.

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Zoro should get more panels?


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#61
I think after Oda saw Amazon arc, Impel Down and especially MF succeed without the SHs, he felt that he can write the manga without SH anymore as much as he wanted.

So he brought that mentality post skip and never looked back.

I can't say how much I detest these random SHs separations. Imagine after waiting years for the SHs to return (Amazon, ID, MF plus flashback arc of Luffy and Ace. All of them w/o SHs), you get into the TS, all SHs finally back together again then after 2 arcs Oda separate them for the next 2 big arc of post skip before Wano(Dressrossa and WCI).

And I'm sure he'll split them again post Wano somehow. As long as he has his darling Luffy nothing matters as much to Oda.
No. The other SHs have less focus because the focus is going to the other side characters, it aint no fault of Luffy's
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Oda could have shown more of his training, that would have proven totally legit from a logical perspective.
There was no reason to when he could reveal the results of Zoro training in the Kaido fight
 
#62
imagine reading the entirety of naruto and then think no character had any development and only look cool.
Tenten did not though
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Zoro doesn't deserve more panel time
He actually had enough and has done nothing much to progress the story or plot
@Jo_Ndule except all the things he did to progress the story and plot
 
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#64
And the tradgey of it is that we still don't care about Scarbbards. Even Oda doesn't and it shows he had Kaido oneshot them just for the purpose that Luffy could save them. Like if Worstgen and Staw Hats were going to be the main focus a the end why not build them up rather than the characters which inevitably won't even matter.
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Its not even about Zoro that much. But do you think Luffy justifies having that much panel time? I think not and as such other characters should be given a chance to increase One Piece Popularity
People should wake up. This show about Luff and his journey. Other characters exist for help to him. İncluding Straw Hats. Thats because Zoro beg to Mihawk and etc, thats bec all straw hats wanted to give their life for Luffy. And day by day Luffy's panel will increase.

For example people think Wano is Zoro's arc but İn wano Zoro has 450(+ -) panels and Luffy is twice. That explain everything.
 
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#67
People should wake up. This show about Luff and his journey. Other characters exist for help to him. İncluding Straw Hats. Thats because Zoro beg to Mihawk and etc, thats bec all straw hats wanted to give their life for Luffy. And day by day Luffy's panel will increase.

For example people think Wano is Zoro's arc but İn wano Zoro has 450(+ -) panels and Luffy is twice. That explain everything.
Dude I'm not denying its Luffy's story. But you can't deny the fact that he is not that popular in eye of general fans despite having so much more panel time. I'm just saying the story would be more popular if the focus was more fairly distributed.
 
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#68
What do you base Zoro being more popular than Luffy on ? At best, it's a close call, may i remind you Law beat Zoro in a popularity poll once in Dressrosa while Luffy's spot remains untouched. Regardless, that doesn't equate to him needing more panel time, Zoro isn't the archetype that needs an abundance of it.
 
#69
Dude I'm not denying its Luffy's story. But you can't deny the fact that he is not that popular in eye of general fans despite having so much more panel time. I'm just saying the story would be more popular if the focus was more fairly distributed.
I understand u.

But ı think it wont happen. İf Zoro finish on Luffy, Oda will think ''I should draw more nice panel for Luffy and make popular again''
 
#71
Zoro is popular because of Oda, not because of anyone else. If Oda decides to use him more and if he decides to use him differently he wouldn’t be this popular, because Zoro is not an effective leader like Luffy nor as powerful as him, he doesn't have strong ideals about the pirate world and life, he doesn't want to change the way of things like Luffy wants, and you can't give him more panel time than he already got.

For example, when Nami leaves, Zoro says forget about her, but Luffy says no so they went after Nami to save her from Arlong. When Sanji had trouble with Vinsmokes, Zoro says forget about it, Luffy says no and goes to fighting with Yonko for Sanji. That's the difference between the two characters. You can't turn Zoro into an effective leader like Luffy. So he will stay as he is, like Sanji.

Oda would never do that, because that means we will see more of Buggy vs Zoro, Arlong vs Zoro, Enel vs Zoro or Lucci vs Zoro, or Oars vs Zoro type of fights, and he will turn into a complete loser who loses to every opponent that Luffy beats, Oda doesn't want to kick Zoro's ass too much in every single arc, that's why he doesn’t get more screen time, because he won't be cool if they kick Zoro's ass in every single arc, I am sure Oda is thinking very hard on what will he do with Zoro without humiliating him against the 2 Yonko right now. He kept Zoro away from Doflamingo, instead he humiliated Law and Sanji, but there is no escape now, Zoro will get his share of beating again.

Turning Zoro to a garbage who gets beat everytime wouldn't do any good, you might be fanboy enough to believe Zoro can do the things that Luffy can do but he can't, so that’s why he doesn't get more screen time, that’s why he doesn't have his own crew like Law and Kidd have, that's why he is Luffy’s underling. He can't be as important as Luffy is. Either separate Zoro from SH crew and turn him into a rival captain to Luffy, or he will stay as sidekick and not humiliate him against stronger opponents that Luffy beats, so it means he can stay cool and popular for some fans. Zoro being popular is directly related to the current screen time and portrayal he got from Oda, Oda is a smart guy and he knows how this things works.
 
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#72
What do you base Zoro being more popular than Luffy on ? At best, it's a close call, may i remind you Law beat Zoro in a popularity poll once in Dressrosa while Luffy's spot remains untouched. Regardless, that doesn't equate to him needing more panel time, Zoro isn't the archetype that needs an abundance of it.
The current popularity poll shows the he is more popular. And even if he is close that is despite Luffy getting so much more attention from Oda. I'm just saying what if that attention was diverted to other characters like zoro. They could do more than what Luffy is doing for sure
 
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#73
The current popularity poll shows the he is more popular
Sanji is leading ahead of both Zoro and Luffy in Japan, dude. At least wait till the end of the votes before using the current poll as a clutch lmfao.

For other characters, i agree. It should be spread out evenly, with Luffy getting more than the rest for logical reasons, but by a smaller margin than right now. It's the non-top 3 Strawhats that suffer the most from this.
 
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#74
Zoro is popular because of Oda, not because of anyone else. If Oda decides to use him more and if he decides to use him differently he wouldn’t be this popular, because Zoro is not an effective leader like Luffy nor as powerful as him, he doesn't have strong ideals about the pirate world and life, he doesn't want to change the way of things like Luffy wants, and you can't give him more panel time than he already got.

For example, when Nami leaves, Zoro says forget about her, but Luffy says no so they went after Nami to save her from Arlong. When Sanji had trouble with Vinsmokes, Zoro says forget about it, Luffy says no and goes to fighting with Yonko for Sanji. That's the difference between the two characters. You can't turn Zoro into an effective leader like Luffy. So he will stay as he is, like Sanji.

Oda would never do that, because that means we will see more of Buggy vs Zoro, Arlong vs Zoro, Enel vs Zoro or Lucci vs Zoro, or Oars vs Zoro type of fights, and he will turn into a complete loser who loses to every opponent that Luffy beats, Oda doesn't want to kick Zoro's ass too much in every single arc, that's why he doesn’t get more screen time, because he won't be cool if they kick Zoro's ass in every single arc, I am sure Oda is thinking very hard on what will he do with Zoro without humiliating him against the 2 Yonko right now. He kept Zoro away from Doflamingo, instead he humiliated Law and Sanji, but there is no escape now, Zoro will get his share of beating again.

Turning Zoro to a garbage who gets beat everytime wouldn't do any good, you might be fanboy enough to believe Zoro can do the things that Luffy can do but he can't, so that’s why he doesn't get more screen time, that’s why he doesn't have his own crew like Law and Kidd have, that's why he is Luffy’s underling. He can't be as important as Luffy is. Either separate Zoro from SH crew and turn him into a rival captain to Luffy, or he will stay as sidekick and not humiliate him against stronger opponents that Luffy beats, so it means he can stay cool and popular for some fans. Zoro being popular is directly related to the current screen time and portrayal he got from Oda, Oda is a smart guy and he knows how this things works.
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I would usually give a response. But I don't think your post deserve it as it just Zoro bashing nothing constructive.
 
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#76
Sanji is leading ahead of both Zoro and Luffy in Japan, dude. At least wait till the end of the votes before using the current poll as a clutch lmfao.

For other characters, i agree. It should be spread out evenly, with Luffy getting more than the rest for logical reasons, but by a smaller margin than right now. It's the non-top 3 Strawhats that suffer the most from this.
Well that doesn't help with the case against Luffy. Any charater who can match with Luffy popularity wise with so little panel time than Luffy should be worry thing for Luffy.
 

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#77
Zoro is popular because of Oda, not because of anyone else. If Oda decides to use him more and if he decides to use him differently he wouldn’t be this popular, because Zoro is not an effective leader like Luffy nor as powerful as him, he doesn't have strong ideals about the pirate world and life, he doesn't want to change the way of things like Luffy wants, and you can't give him more panel time than he already got.

For example, when Nami leaves, Zoro says forget about her, but Luffy says no so they went after Nami to save her from Arlong. When Sanji had trouble with Vinsmokes, Zoro says forget about it, Luffy says no and goes to fighting with Yonko for Sanji. That's the difference between the two characters. You can't turn Zoro into an effective leader like Luffy. So he will stay as he is, like Sanji.

Oda would never do that, because that means we will see more of Buggy vs Zoro, Arlong vs Zoro, Enel vs Zoro or Lucci vs Zoro, or Oars vs Zoro type of fights, and he will turn into a complete loser who loses to every opponent that Luffy beats, Oda doesn't want to kick Zoro's ass too much in every single arc, that's why he doesn’t get more screen time, because he won't be cool if they kick Zoro's ass in every single arc, I am sure Oda is thinking very hard on what will he do with Zoro without humiliating him against the 2 Yonko right now. He kept Zoro away from Doflamingo, instead he humiliated Law and Sanji, but there is no escape now, Zoro will get his share of beating again.

Turning Zoro to a garbage who gets beat everytime wouldn't do any good, you might be fanboy enough to believe Zoro can do the things that Luffy can do but he can't, so that’s why he doesn't get more screen time, that’s why he doesn't have his own crew like Law and Kidd have, that's why he is Luffy’s underling. He can't be as important as Luffy is. Either separate Zoro from SH crew and turn him into a rival captain to Luffy, or he will stay as sidekick and not humiliate him against stronger opponents that Luffy beats, so it means he can stay cool and popular for some fans. Zoro being popular is directly related to the current screen time and portrayal he got from Oda, Oda is a smart guy and he knows how this things works.

As expected from member of the Crying Six. :milaugh:
 
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