Future Events Zoro vs Mihawk/Shiryu EoS is still needed?
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Zoro killing a guy who already got captured 18 times and defeated 7 times will not dehype his duel with Mihawk. It's just proofed Zoro's word about so-called strongest which is just rumours
We have two Yonkos Luffy could have biggest role in both their defeats even if Zoro lands the finishing blow on Kaido, so people should relax maybe this is one of the reasons Oda dragged her to Wano
If you are open to the likes of Law Kid landing the finishing why not Zoro he is a far more important character, despite all his connections to Wano the citizens Shimotsiku and Oden. What would justify giving the rights to Kid and Law to have more prominence in this arc
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If you are open to the likes of Law Kid landing the finishing why not Zoro he is a far more important character, despite all his connections to Wano the citizens Shimotsiku and Oden. What would justify giving the rights to Kid and Law to have more prominence in this arc
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Shiryu > Mihawk.
Shiryu was more deadly than even Magellan, who can do this to Crocodile, Jinbe and Luffy.
What the same Crocodile does against Mihawk?
Solos him.
Mihawk wasn't even the most dangerous Shichibukai, it was Doflamingo.
As for the title, titles are all rumors and people can say other people are better swordsman than Mihawk as we've seen in Zoro novel, there was no officially proven titles, they were discussing who is a better swordsman.
Zoro Novel: ''One marine claims that the strongest swordsman in the world is definitely Mihawk, the other marine claims it's Zoro. They witnessed their sword techniques in marineford and dressrosa. Mihawk cut down gigantic ice block. Zoro cut down gigantic Pica. They start talking about other candidates: Vista, Shanks and Ryuuma. A marine says Vista was able to fight Mihawk equally for a short moment. Ryuma is strong, but he is already dead. According to another marine, Shanks is said to be the rival of Mihawk. He faced Akainu without fear. 2 of the marines have heard that Shanks is a very strong swordsman. But another marine says it's not that Shanks showed his great technique with his sword in Marineford.''
--- Translation by Sandman
Vista had a competitive fight with Mihawk, which ended in a draw.
"Vista has the skills to compete with Mihawk, one of the most famous swordsmen in the world. He wasn't afraid to confront him..."
--- Vivre Card - One Piece Visual Dictionary
Now why the skills are very important in swordsmanship? Mihawk himself said it.
Mihawk states that no sword is strong without grace (skill).
Mihawk: ''A sword without grace is no strong sword.''
--- Chapter 0050
Another example is that when Luffy tries to use a sword;
Luffy's performance against Arlong was downgraded, he become even weaker due to lack of sword skills.
And we also know Blackbeard pirates defeated Whitebeard commanders, it's obvious that Blackbeard fought Marco, but we don't know who fought Jozu and Vista. Either way, if Shiryu defeated Jozu or Vista, he would have a better portrayal than Mihawk, who failed against Jozu as well.
Now we know Shiryu is a better challenge than Vista for Mihawk, but then Shiryu even gets an upgrade with the invisibility power? It's possible that Shiryu already surpassed Mihawk.
Shiryu was more deadly than even Magellan, who can do this to Crocodile, Jinbe and Luffy.
What the same Crocodile does against Mihawk?
Solos him.
Mihawk wasn't even the most dangerous Shichibukai, it was Doflamingo.
As for the title, titles are all rumors and people can say other people are better swordsman than Mihawk as we've seen in Zoro novel, there was no officially proven titles, they were discussing who is a better swordsman.
Zoro Novel: ''One marine claims that the strongest swordsman in the world is definitely Mihawk, the other marine claims it's Zoro. They witnessed their sword techniques in marineford and dressrosa. Mihawk cut down gigantic ice block. Zoro cut down gigantic Pica. They start talking about other candidates: Vista, Shanks and Ryuuma. A marine says Vista was able to fight Mihawk equally for a short moment. Ryuma is strong, but he is already dead. According to another marine, Shanks is said to be the rival of Mihawk. He faced Akainu without fear. 2 of the marines have heard that Shanks is a very strong swordsman. But another marine says it's not that Shanks showed his great technique with his sword in Marineford.''
--- Translation by Sandman
Vista had a competitive fight with Mihawk, which ended in a draw.
"Vista has the skills to compete with Mihawk, one of the most famous swordsmen in the world. He wasn't afraid to confront him..."
--- Vivre Card - One Piece Visual Dictionary
Now why the skills are very important in swordsmanship? Mihawk himself said it.
Mihawk states that no sword is strong without grace (skill).
Mihawk: ''A sword without grace is no strong sword.''
--- Chapter 0050
Another example is that when Luffy tries to use a sword;
Luffy's performance against Arlong was downgraded, he become even weaker due to lack of sword skills.
And we also know Blackbeard pirates defeated Whitebeard commanders, it's obvious that Blackbeard fought Marco, but we don't know who fought Jozu and Vista. Either way, if Shiryu defeated Jozu or Vista, he would have a better portrayal than Mihawk, who failed against Jozu as well.
Now we know Shiryu is a better challenge than Vista for Mihawk, but then Shiryu even gets an upgrade with the invisibility power? It's possible that Shiryu already surpassed Mihawk.
Shiryu > Mihawk.
Shiryu was more deadly than even Magellan, who can do this to Crocodile, Jinbe and Luffy.
What the same Crocodile does against Mihawk?
Solos him.
Mihawk wasn't even the most dangerous Shichibukai, it was Doflamingo.
As for the title, titles are all rumors and people can say other people are better swordsman than Mihawk as we've seen in Zoro novel, there was no officially proven titles, they were discussing who is a better swordsman.
Zoro Novel: ''One marine claims that the strongest swordsman in the world is definitely Mihawk, the other marine claims it's Zoro. They witnessed their sword techniques in marineford and dressrosa. Mihawk cut down gigantic ice block. Zoro cut down gigantic Pica. They start talking about other candidates: Vista, Shanks and Ryuuma. A marine says Vista was able to fight Mihawk equally for a short moment. Ryuma is strong, but he is already dead. According to another marine, Shanks is said to be the rival of Mihawk. He faced Akainu without fear. 2 of the marines have heard that Shanks is a very strong swordsman. But another marine says it's not that Shanks showed his great technique with his sword in Marineford.''
--- Translation by Sandman
Vista had a competitive fight with Mihawk, which ended in a draw.
"Vista has the skills to compete with Mihawk, one of the most famous swordsmen in the world. He wasn't afraid to confront him..."
--- Vivre Card - One Piece Visual Dictionary
Now why the skills are very important in swordsmanship? Mihawk himself said it.
Mihawk states that no sword is strong without grace (skill).
Mihawk: ''A sword without grace is no strong sword.''
--- Chapter 0050
Another example is that when Luffy tries to use a sword;
Luffy's performance against Arlong was downgraded, he become even weaker due to lack of sword skills.
And we also know Blackbeard pirates defeated Whitebeard commanders, it's obvious that Blackbeard fought Marco, but we don't know who fought Jozu and Vista. Either way, if Shiryu defeated Jozu or Vista, he would have a better portrayal than Mihawk, who failed against Jozu as well.
Now we know Shiryu is a better challenge than Vista for Mihawk, but then Shiryu even gets an upgrade with the invisibility power? It's possible that Shiryu already surpassed Mihawk.
Shiryu was more deadly than even Magellan, who can do this to Crocodile, Jinbe and Luffy.
What the same Crocodile does against Mihawk?
Solos him.
Mihawk wasn't even the most dangerous Shichibukai, it was Doflamingo.
As for the title, titles are all rumors and people can say other people are better swordsman than Mihawk as we've seen in Zoro novel, there was no officially proven titles, they were discussing who is a better swordsman.
Zoro Novel: ''One marine claims that the strongest swordsman in the world is definitely Mihawk, the other marine claims it's Zoro. They witnessed their sword techniques in marineford and dressrosa. Mihawk cut down gigantic ice block. Zoro cut down gigantic Pica. They start talking about other candidates: Vista, Shanks and Ryuuma. A marine says Vista was able to fight Mihawk equally for a short moment. Ryuma is strong, but he is already dead. According to another marine, Shanks is said to be the rival of Mihawk. He faced Akainu without fear. 2 of the marines have heard that Shanks is a very strong swordsman. But another marine says it's not that Shanks showed his great technique with his sword in Marineford.''
--- Translation by Sandman
Vista had a competitive fight with Mihawk, which ended in a draw.
"Vista has the skills to compete with Mihawk, one of the most famous swordsmen in the world. He wasn't afraid to confront him..."
--- Vivre Card - One Piece Visual Dictionary
Now why the skills are very important in swordsmanship? Mihawk himself said it.
Mihawk states that no sword is strong without grace (skill).
Mihawk: ''A sword without grace is no strong sword.''
--- Chapter 0050
Another example is that when Luffy tries to use a sword;
Luffy's performance against Arlong was downgraded, he become even weaker due to lack of sword skills.
And we also know Blackbeard pirates defeated Whitebeard commanders, it's obvious that Blackbeard fought Marco, but we don't know who fought Jozu and Vista. Either way, if Shiryu defeated Jozu or Vista, he would have a better portrayal than Mihawk, who failed against Jozu as well.
Now we know Shiryu is a better challenge than Vista for Mihawk, but then Shiryu even gets an upgrade with the invisibility power? It's possible that Shiryu already surpassed Mihawk.
Which default copy-paste answer is this? Number 7?
Sanji fans are REALLY going through it lately, huh?? 
You know I love you, Big Bang, but this is not your best take...the quasi-main protagonist is still gonna have his big final match against an opponent who’s been set up for 25 years as his endgame, nothing that happens in this arc will change destiny. Additionally, nothing that happens in this arc should lessen the impact and poignancy of the Zoro-Mihawk (or, hell, even Zoro-Shiryu) battle, because the titles of World’s Strongest Swordsman and World’s Strongest Creature are mutually exclusive. Whoever survives until the end is gonna be involved when the time comes, Oda’s not gonna run the risk of incurring the fandom’s wrath right at the finish line because he knows we’ll have no reason to keep giving him the benefit of the doubt by then and won’t hesitate to kick his ass for a subpar conclusion.
You know I love you, Big Bang, but this is not your best take...the quasi-main protagonist is still gonna have his big final match against an opponent who’s been set up for 25 years as his endgame, nothing that happens in this arc will change destiny. Additionally, nothing that happens in this arc should lessen the impact and poignancy of the Zoro-Mihawk (or, hell, even Zoro-Shiryu) battle, because the titles of World’s Strongest Swordsman and World’s Strongest Creature are mutually exclusive. Whoever survives until the end is gonna be involved when the time comes, Oda’s not gonna run the risk of incurring the fandom’s wrath right at the finish line because he knows we’ll have no reason to keep giving him the benefit of the doubt by then and won’t hesitate to kick his ass for a subpar conclusion.
And even if Zoro did kill Kaido, it wouldn't dehype Mihawk/Shiryu matches since they are gonna happen in EOS
Only dehypes Zoro vs Shiryu, honestly. It's obvious the invisibility fruit will be used as a barrier for Zoro to land an actual hit on Shiryu. Zoro vs Shiryu will probably be similar to Zoro vs Ohm where Ohm dominated the whole fight because of his mastery of arena and dials, before Zoro finds a comfortable space to launch an attack to finish off Ohm.
As for Zoro vs Mihawk (or indeed Zoro vs Fujitora), though? Not a chance of it being dehyped. It's a solo fight against a top tier.
As for Zoro vs Mihawk (or indeed Zoro vs Fujitora), though? Not a chance of it being dehyped. It's a solo fight against a top tier.
Do people really want to see Mihawk getting cut down by Zoro? When the guy was so nice to him by not killing him 2 years ago and then accepting his wishes to get trained for 2 years? He should be thanking the guy, not cutting him.
How does that look for Zoro's character? That ungrateful marimo is going to cut down the guy who helped him so much based on a shitty title that no one cares?
As I said, zoro vs mihawk is history now, it won't happen, it's only zoro fan wishes because they still want to believe mihawk is equal to yonko, and shiryu is a yonko side-kick and he isn't equal to yonko, they just want it for power-level character overrating purposes, not for the story.
Shiryu killing mihawk would be the perfect for the story; hypes Shiryu, hypes Zoro if he defeats him, there won't be any doubt if he surpassed mihawk or not, if he beats a guy who proved to be even stronger than mihawk, and he would avenge mihawk by beating the guy who killed him.
How does that look for Zoro's character? That ungrateful marimo is going to cut down the guy who helped him so much based on a shitty title that no one cares?
As I said, zoro vs mihawk is history now, it won't happen, it's only zoro fan wishes because they still want to believe mihawk is equal to yonko, and shiryu is a yonko side-kick and he isn't equal to yonko, they just want it for power-level character overrating purposes, not for the story.
Shiryu killing mihawk would be the perfect for the story; hypes Shiryu, hypes Zoro if he defeats him, there won't be any doubt if he surpassed mihawk or not, if he beats a guy who proved to be even stronger than mihawk, and he would avenge mihawk by beating the guy who killed him.
