Chapter Discussion Zoros ACoC might be one of the strongest out there

Is Zoro now stronger than luffy?


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#82
Let's be real, Zoro's ACoC is probably the weakest we've seen so far, only Zolotards would say otherwise

Big Mom
Kaido
Luffy
Roger
Whitebeard
Shanks
Yamato

Out of all of these Zoro hasn't ACoC clashed with anybody, 6 of the 7 have split the sky with their ACoC, Zoro hasn't.
 
#83
Base Kaido taking a CoC infused Snakeman attack with internal destruction CoA backed up by Yamato's CoC infused club to the face:



Hybrid Kaido taking Asura from a Zoro with a shattered skeleton and sub-conscious CoC:



When Zoro with mastered CoC infusion has trails of black fluid dragging on for 50 meters, able to one shot King in his most durable form, cutting his sword and wing in the process.



:josad: :queenhear:​
 
#84
Base Kaido taking a CoC infused Snakeman attack with internal destruction CoA backed up by Yamato's CoC infused club to the face:



Hybrid Kaido taking Asura from a Zoro with a shattered skeleton and sub-conscious CoC:



When Zoro with mastered CoC infusion has trails of black fluid dragging on for 50 meters, able to one shot King in his most durable form, cutting his sword and wing in the process.



:josad: :queenhear:​
I don't think anyone is arguing a basic punch in Snakeman is stronger than Zoro's strongest finishers.
 
#85
Well we don't have any established criteria to judge whether one person's CoC coating is stronger than the other as of yet. So the debate of who has stronger CoC isn't really gonna get anywhere. That aside, I don't know if it's already been stated in this thread, but to me at least, it'd pretty obvious that the size of Zoro's CoC lightning is due to Haki overflow from Enma. I mean Zoro right now is not restricting Enma so it is using as much of his CoC as it wants.
You got it backwards. It's not because of enma. It's because if the amount of haki (ACoC) he is releasing from his body and put it into all three swords. He's no longer restricting himself because of enma.

The manga explained in chapter 1033 for enma to not take Zoro's haki then he must release large amounts of haki.
 
#86
Not going to get anywhere? Rayleigh stated CoC strength = your overall strength. It's pretty clear who has strong CoC coating.

Luffy's Haki is overall stronger and it penetrates deeper (internal destruction).
Personally I don't think it is debatable with regards to who is stronger or has better overall Haki. Luffy is clearly above Zoro imo. However as far as CoC coating is concerned, we just don’t have enough information on it yet to able to distinctively say Luffy’s Haki coating is stronger than Zoro’s or vice versa. That said however, Kaido alluded to Luffy’s CoC coating usage being sloppy so chances are in this battle with Kaido, we find out what he lacked & with that info, we’ll prolly be able to tell who’s CoC coating is stronger.

Btw, What I was referring to in my post was CoC coating alone & not CoC coating + Advanced.CoA.

One could make an argument that Luffy’s CoC is stronger coz he’s unlocked it way earlier & has defeated more conquerors thereby growing his ambition but that is still pretty speculative with regards to how strong CoC coating is. Moment Oda gave Zoro the highest level of CoC mastery currently known in the series (I.e. the same as Luffy’s), I feel using this argument to push the notion that Luffy’s CoC is stronger is a bit moot. CoC control wise tho, one could reasonably make a strong argument that Luffy has better control than Zoro.
 
#87
Take a look at the fucking lightning trail he leaves.


These are huge in comparison to even Kaidos and not to forget luffys. I know it is being said that luffy is a specialist at CoC but damn luffys CoC kinda dwarfs out in comparison to zoro.



I am not even sure anymore if luffy is stronger than zoro anymore. The dude just low diffed a YC1+ after receiving ACoC. Just look how much difference ACoC makes before that Zoro was losing and now he just baby shaked that handsome mofo.

Even thouse who still think that zoro is not stronger than luffy right now should at least accept that he minimum is now equal to luffy.

You guys know my opinion zoro outshines luffy in his own best category.


Get the discussion going and don't play too much with the red noses!
Or maybe it is the difference in panel size?

One is zoomed in and the other is zoomed out?

Bigger than Kaido's?

Remember how Roger and Whitebeard's CoC clash was felt all over the island and their ship was also affected? We have not seen a similar effect from Zoro's CoC (yes the fodder fainted, but I am talking about island here).

Stop comparing and enjoy the story.
 
#88
You got it backwards. It's not because of enma. It's because if the amount of haki (ACoC) he is releasing from his body and put it into all three swords. He's no longer restricting himself because of enma.

The manga explained in chapter 1033 for enma to not take Zoro's haki then he must release large amounts of haki.
Nah I don’t think so. Till now Zoro has had a chain on Enma which stopped it from consuming as much Haki as it wants. He’s been restricting it out of fear of being sucked dry & dying from it. All that has happened now is that Zoro has let go of that fear & is allowing Enma to go as wild as it wants. All the whilst bearing the risk of potentially dying from it. Enma is the one releasing Zoro’s CoC coating not Zoro.

You make it seem like Zoro was purposely nerfing himself coz of Enma when in fact the blade is what is forcing out his potential.
 
#89
Take a look at the fucking lightning trail he leaves.


These are huge in comparison to even Kaidos and not to forget luffys. I know it is being said that luffy is a specialist at CoC but damn luffys CoC kinda dwarfs out in comparison to zoro.



I am not even sure anymore if luffy is stronger than zoro anymore. The dude just low diffed a YC1+ after receiving ACoC. Just look how much difference ACoC makes before that Zoro was losing and now he just baby shaked that handsome mofo.

Even thouse who still think that zoro is not stronger than luffy right now should at least accept that he minimum is now equal to luffy.

You guys know my opinion zoro outshines luffy in his own best category.


Get the discussion going and don't play too much with the red noses!
So here's a key thing you are missing. Zoro's attacks are on a continuum. You have zoro's king of hell 3 sword style, which uses considerably smaller CoC streaks(even when compared to Luffy's). And then you have the king of hell 3 dragon style, which uses the giant streaks.

The fact that zoro has 2 styles depending on how much CoC he is outputting leads me to believe that 3 dragons style is a sort of ultimate form for zoro(at least haki-wise). 3 dragons is when he is going all out with his haki without holding anything back. This makes sense as Zoro said he needed to end the fight soon.

In any case, zoro clearly didn't low diff him if he had to use 3 dragon style. And while zoro was using his CoC at full force, we've yet to really see Luffy do this. Luffy's CoC attacks so far were just his casual punches, mostly just no-named attacks.
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I don't think anyone is arguing a basic punch in Snakeman is stronger than Zoro's strongest finishers.
This is something I've noticed ever since 1010. Zoro fans continuously try to downplay Luffy's mastery of CoC by comparing Luffy's weakest attacks with zoro's strongest.

And I'd definitely put jet culverin in the "weakest" category. Its a speed based form.
 
#91
How exactly would enma release haki on other swords, Like done here ?


It doesn't make sense.
I don‘t believe it.. people still coping about Emma being the reason for Zoro having CoC.. that’s just priceless. If that’s the case only Emma would emit black lightning. So many red noses to squeak in this thread. :vistalaugh:
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How do you know i have a red nose? :believe::chopoff:
I have steroid Future sight :kata:
 
#92
Well we don't have any established criteria to judge whether one person's CoC coating is stronger than the other as of yet. So the debate of who has stronger CoC isn't really gonna get anywhere. That aside, I don't know if it's already been stated in this thread, but to me at least, it'd pretty obvious that the size of Zoro's CoC lightning is due to Haki overflow from Enma. I mean Zoro right now is not restricting Enma so it is using as much of his CoC as it wants.
Bruh but Enma isn't coating Zoro's other 2 swords with CoC. It's conscious use for him to be putting equal amounts on all 3. I thought this debate was done after 1033. Enma has never been shown to affect anything other than itself and Zoro's right arm
 
#94
Just because the spirit grows stronger the stronger one is,doesn't mean someone else's spirit is stronger just because he is stronger.



Luffy with his unwavering spirit and will doesn't have a weaker CoC than someone like BM,Oden just because she/he is stronger.
unfortunately it does
thats what the story says lmao
 
#97
Let's be real, Zoro's ACoC is probably the weakest we've seen so far, only Zolotards would say otherwise

Big Mom
Kaido
Luffy
Roger
Whitebeard
Shanks
Yamato

Out of all of these Zoro hasn't ACoC clashed with anybody, 6 of the 7 have split the sky with their ACoC, Zoro hasn't.
You're just salty Sanji doesn't have it. :vistalaugh::willsmith:
 
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