Powers & Abilities Zoro's AdvCOC, Can He Do It Outside KOH Mode?

[CbShadow]

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I really don't get what is so confusing.

My point was from the start that Zoro never left Koh mode and bird dance is part of that.
Is it clear until now?


To increase my point,I said Zoro would have named the one sword style of Bird dance like he always does . Ok now?

And you see how you use the same argument in the end ? "He calls that out" you said.

What I was saying ? That he would call it out.
What is the difference?

@ConquistadoR then simply removed the point of not being named by showing the 360.


Really simple stuff and I totally don't get confusion .

It is to my understanding that Zoro actually never leaves out in KOH mode once he used it against King.

Or what he said about it, that it would kill him if he keeps going all out on his haki would make no sense.

That bird dance didn't have fumes and only one sword has black lightning, I agree.

I'm thinking that was a visual error.

I know manga and anime are different, and this is the first time I'm gonna reference the anime, but take a look at this:

Zoro was still in KOH mode in the animation when he used bird dance.

@CbShadow @nik87 @ConquistadoR @Afroking @Franosuke

The only time we see Zoro use AdvCOC was during that span of time where he first used KOH up until he defeated King.

The point is, after Wano, Zoro hadn't used a casual AdvCoC yet.

Luffy just kicked Kizaru with advCOC, casually.

I am in no way saying Zoro can't do it but I'd like a panel where Zoro would use AdvCOC casually, without activating KOH first or if you may without his bandana on.

There is a misunderstand what KoH is. KoH is not a mode, it's a style. The amount and type of haki Zoro is uses determines whether Zoro is using a KoH technique or not.

I previously explained the difference between a KoH technique and normal ACoC or non-KoH technique. Here we go again.

King of Hell or KoH is a style where Zoro uses overwhelming or maximum amounts of CoA haki combined with ACoC haki. Smoke coming from Zoro's swords it's how the manga visualize Zoro using overwhelming or maximum amounts of CoA haki.

This is Zoro using normal (for him) amounts of blackened CoA haki.

Spoiler

His swords are coated in blackened haki but there is no smoke or lightning coming from his swords.


This is Zoro uses a KoH technique

Spoiler

Notice the smoke and black lightning.

Zoro using a non-KoH ACoC haki attack.

Spoiler

His sword is coated in blackened CoA haki, but there is no smoke, combined with black lightning.

KoH uses a lot of haki because of the amount of CoA haki it requires so Zoro doesn't use it all the time. He only uses it when he wants to perform a powerful offensive attack. Zoro does uses KoH when he's just clashing or blocking attacks with his opponent. That can be seen in chapter 1035

 

[HA001]

@Afroking blud you can clearly see on the zoomed out panel only sandai has haki leaking from it when he uses birds dance on king

 

[Vanlax]

This is Zoro uses a KoH technique

Spoiler

1st Panel (Upper Right): Uses KOH when he literally is just standing and talking.
2nd Panel (Middle): Uses KOH, still standing and talking.

3rd Panel (Lower Right): About to perform an attack.

1. If it is a style and not a mode, why is Zoro using KOH in the first two of his panels of the page where he is literally just standing? Ain't he supposed to just use it when he is about to attack (3rd panel) because that's when he will use the style?

2. Zoro knew King can be damaged when the flames are off. So, knowing this, does it make sense for Zoro to not use KOH on that Bird Dance when he knew King was vulnerable, and on top of that Zoro is running out of time as he said?

Like I said, visually that Bird Dance didn't look like a KOH. No fumes. Only one sword visually has black lightning.

The animation disagreed, and logically it doesn't make any sense too.

King was vulnerable and Zoro attacked using Bird Dance without KOH? Why? Is he stupid?

But this is beyond the point anyways.

What I want is to have a Zoro panel with him using AdvCOC casually. Just like how Luffy kicked Kizaru.

 

[Blazing Lion]

If a retard like Yamato can use ACoC no named attacks then idk why a haki genius like Zoro can't use ACoC out of KOH style/mode.

 

[Vanlax]

If a retard like Yamato can use ACoC no named attacks then idk why a haki genius like Zoro can't use ACoC out of KOH style/mode.

True.

Which is why I'm expecting Zoro to finish Lucci with a COC coated version of the Shishi Sonson. A Lion's Song to end the Leopard.

 

[Agent31]

oden is is much stronger than zoro

 

[Artem]

Find the odd one out

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Perfectly fine english.


One sword style moves are named as such.

Again one thing to hold 3 swords when performing a single sword style move.

Another to not name it single sword style .

I can give you 5-10 examples where Zoro used one sword without saying "one sword style".

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Fact.1 In the manga, only one zoro sword was covered with black lightning (sandai) and no haki smoke. 2 This is the only named attack after the awakening of koh where Zoro did not say "the style of the king of hell". Koh=acoa+acoc. In the bird dance, only coc and verbally Zoro did not say "the mode of the king of hell". Everything is simple.

 

[Herrera95]

Yes he did with Asura on Kaido.