Powers & Abilities Zoro's Conqueror's Haki is Different

[CbShadow]

Until proven it's all headcanon.

For all we know Ashura could be an advanced form of CoA since that is what Zoro's specialises in.

What IS fact. Is Zoro has not shown CoC in panel unless specifically having Enma highlighted there is your answer. I don't think Zoro can draw out CoC unless he holds Enma for the time being anyway.

I disagree with the last part.

The latest chapter explained to us that enma has a standard and if Zoro doesn't meet that standard enma will force out more haki than Zoro wishes. Enma only forced out CoA haki.

In the last scene we see Zoro coat all three of his swords with ACoC. If enma what's the reason then only enma would be coated.

 

[GrandmasterChef Zonji]

What IS fact. Is Zoro has not shown CoC in panel unless specifically having Enma highlighted there is your answer. I don't think Zoro can draw out CoC unless he holds Enma for the time being anyway.

So by your fact, Oden can't draw out COC unless he using Enma? Cuz i haven't seen him using it to fodder if i recall (without enma) , except what ashura douji said and toei i guess

 

[Zowo]

Until proven it's all headcanon.

For all we know Ashura could be an advanced form of CoA since that is what Zoro's specialises in.

What IS fact. Is Zoro has not shown CoC in panel unless specifically having Enma highlighted there is your answer. I don't think Zoro can draw out CoC unless he holds Enma for the time being anyway.

dawg he coating all 3 swords with conq

 

[Finalbeta]

Until proven it's all headcanon.

For all we know Ashura could be an advanced form of CoA since that is what Zoro's specialises in.

What IS fact. Is Zoro has not shown CoC in panel unless specifically having Enma highlighted there is your answer. I don't think Zoro can draw out CoC unless he holds Enma for the time being anyway.

Why CoA and not CoC?

Kaido mentioned of Zoro's CoC specifically when he triggered Asura.

It's possible CoC =/= Asura but at this stage the other option sounds the most intuitive and also likely.

 

[Rekien]

For all we know Ashura could be an advanced form of CoA since that is what Zoro's specialises in.

Soo you are just bringing in headcannon as an argument? Go suck a dick mate.

 

[Adamxero]

I disagree with the last part.

The latest chapter explained to us that enma has a standard and if Zoro doesn't meet that standard enma will force out more haki than Zoro wishes. Enma only forced out CoA haki.

In the last scene we see Zoro coat all three of his swords with ACoC. If enma what's the reason then only enma would be coated.

Enma pulls out his AdvCoC it doesn't mean that'd be the only sword coated.

It's hard to argue with the fact that each time Zoro has used AdvCoC it's been when Enma is highlighted. Zoro himself said he'd give Enma all the haki it wanted which was then when he pulled out AdvCoC.

Ask yourself this would Zoro be using AdvCoC now if he didn't have Enma? It's his haki but the manga has shown us that what is drawing the dorman haki within Zoro is Enma.

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So by your fact, Oden can't draw out COC unless he using Enma? Cuz i haven't seen him using it to fodder if i recall (without enma) , except what ashura douji said and toei i guess

Oden was able to control his AdvCoC by the time we seen him have full control of Enma so yeah maybe it did.

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dawg he coating all 3 swords with conq

By having his dorman CoC pulled out by Enma. I don't see how it's a downplay to say Enma is allowing Zoro to pull out his haki more than he ever would without it he's still learning how to use it as he's not as good with Luffy at it

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Why CoA and not CoC?

Kaido mentioned of Zoro's CoC specifically when he triggered Asura.

It's possible CoC =/= Asura but at this stage the other option sounds the most intuitive and also likely.

He mentioned AdvCoC when Zoro wounded him. Ashura was just his all or nothing attack and we know haki blooms in the midst of fighting.

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Soo you are just bringing in headcannon as an argument? Go suck a dick mate.

Ahhh typical Zoro fan.

I'm not the one going I THINK this or I THINK that I'm actually going by facts and unless stated Ashura is not CoC as you've probably imagined in your weird repressed wet dreams.

 

[Rekien]

Enma pulls out his AdvCoC it doesn't mean that'd be the only sword coated.

It's hard to argue with the fact that each time Zoro has used AdvCoC it's been when Enma is highlighted. Zoro himself said he'd give Enma all the haki it wanted which was then when he pulled out AdvCoC.

Ask yourself this would Zoro be using AdvCoC now if he didn't have Enma? It's his haki but the manga has shown us that what is drawing the dorman haki within Zoro is Enma.

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Oden was able to control his AdvCoC by the time we seen him have full control of Enma so yeah maybe it did.

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By having his dorman CoC pulled out by Enma. I don't see how it's a downplay to say Enma is allowing Zoro to pull out his haki more than he ever would without it he's still learning how to use it as he's not as good with Luffy at it

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He mentioned AdvCoC when Zoro wounded him. Ashura was just his all or nothing attack and we know haki blooms in the midst of fighting.

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Ahhh typical Zoro fan.

I'm not the one going I THINK this or I THINK that I'm actually going by facts and unless stated Ashura is not CoC as you've probably imagined in your weird repressed wet dreams.

I see the concept of thought is too much for you, maybe you should try doing some. I even gave you manga pannels as to show you why i think Asura is CoC. Unlike you who didnt bring a shred of evidence of what you are talking about and is claiming it as fact.

Yes its not confirmed that Asura is CoC, but as i said i presented all evidence i could to suport my argument and thats why again, i THINK it is the case, unlike you i have the balls to admit the possibility that im wrong.

Just because your dumbass is claiming something as fact it dosent mean it is, i say again PROVE that what you are saying is truth or what you are saying is not a fact, you just think it is the case, for example right now you say Zoro can only use CoC because we only seen him use it with enma. But you absolutely cannot prove this is the case at all, and you are gonna eat a big fat L again.

I say again because its pretty darn obvious you are a biased sanjistan, and damn you guys can eat those L's.

 

[Adamxero]

I see the concept of thought is too much for you, maybe you should try doing some. I even gave you manga pannels as to show you why i think Asura is CoC. Unlike you who didnt bring a shred of evidence of what you are talking about and is claiming it as fact.

Yes its not confirmed that Asura is CoC, but as i said i presented all evidence i could to suport my argument and thats why again, i THINK it is the case, unlike you i have the balls to admit the possibility that im wrong.

Just because your dumbass is claiming something as fact it dosent mean it is, i say again PROVE that what you are saying is truth or what you are saying is not a fact, you just think it is the case, for example right now you say Zoro can only use CoC because we only seen him use it with enma. But you absolutely cannot prove this is the case at all, and you are gonna eat a big fat L again.

I say again because its pretty darn obvious you are a biased sanjistan, and damn you guys can eat those L's.

I think is not a legitimate argument when there's nothing to prove it so all it is you have is headcanon sorry.

Evidence shows 2 scenes Zoro used AdvCoC Enma was highlighted in both seems a bit selective reading to just ignore that.

I'm not a Sanji fan by the way. Which goes to show you're that insecure about Sanjibros that you assume anyone who says Zoro is not as strong as your headcanon has him as is a Sanji fan.

I clown Sanji look at my previous posts. I'm a Luffy fan but my favourite character is Smoker who takes L's all the time.

 

[Rekien]

I think is not a legitimate argument when there's nothing to prove it so all it is you have is headcanon sorry.

Evidence shows 2 scenes Zoro used AdvCoC Enma was highlighted in both seems a bit selective reading to just ignore that.

I'm not a Sanji fan by the way. Which goes to show you're that insecure about Sanjibros that you assume anyone who says Zoro is not as strong as your headcanon has him as is a Sanji fan.

I clown Sanji look at my previous posts. I'm a Luffy fan but my favourite character is Smoker who takes L's all the time.

Zoro got advCoC coating on all 3 swords, he used Asura with all three swords, Enma was only highlighted now, soo all you got is headcannon too. At least i proved half of my argument was right by showing a pannel of how Zoro make other people see ilusions with his will/spirit. What did you got to prove your "undeniable fact"? Literaly nothing but headcannon.

Yes you are, its pretty easy to go through your history, at least dont be a pussy and own up to your bias.

 

[Adamxero]

Zoro got advCoC coating on all 3 swords, he used Asura with all three swords, Enma was only highlighted now, soo all you got is headcannon too. At least i proved half of my argument was right by showing a pannel of how Zoro make other people see ilusions with his will/spirit. What did you got to prove your "undeniable fact"? Literaly nothing but headcannon.

Yes you are, its pretty easy to go through your history, at least dont be a pussy and own up to your bias.

Literally the panel before he used Ashura Enma is highlighted.

Once again before Zoro used AdvCoC Enma is highlighted.

But don't let that get in the way of you deluding yourself on Zoro's dick.

I clown Sanji fans as well when they say deluded stuff or he looks bad so what bias exactly do I have? I'm biased because i don't agree with you batshit delusions?

 

[Shanal]

Literally the panel before he used Ashura Enma is highlighted.

Once again before Zoro used AdvCoC Enma is highlighted.

But don't let that get in the way of you deluding yourself on Zoro's dick.

I clown Sanji fans as well when they say deluded stuff or he looks bad so what bias exactly do I have? I'm biased because i don't agree with you batshit delusions?

I mean the entire narrative of the chapter was Enma, and obviously Enma helped him channel his haki, and demanded more from him- which evenetually ended in Zoro releasing it all, but...

...he's definitely coating all three of his blades in haki at his will. Enma can't do that for him.

Wait, is your agenda that Enma has CoC and is releasing dead Oden's haki now? Lol

Otherwise, this chapter's entire point was to have Zoro be worthy of being Enma's wielder. Until now, Enma fed on enormous Haki, but Zoro concluded that instead of limiting it, he should feed Enma his haki and own it. Use it as if it's as "light as a feather"

 

[Rekien]

Literally the panel before he used Ashura Enma is highlighted.

Once again before Zoro used AdvCoC Enma is highlighted.

But don't let that get in the way of you deluding yourself on Zoro's dick.

I clown Sanji fans as well when they say deluded stuff or he looks bad so what bias exactly do I have? I'm biased because i don't agree with you batshit delusions?

He still has the two other swords with him, hes not only using enma, again he is coating ALL swords with haki. This chapter is about Zoro proving he is worty of wielding enma of course the sword will be highlighted.

What you saying aint proff of shit.

 

[Adamxero]

I mean the entire narrative of the chapter was Enma, and obviously Enma helped him channel his haki, and demanded more from him- which evenetually ended in Zoro releasing it all, but...

...he's definitely coating all three of his blades in haki at his will. Enma can't do that for him.

Wait, is your agenda that Enma has CoC and is releasing dead Oden's haki now? Lol

Otherwise, this chapter's entire point was to have Zoro be worthy of being Enma's wielder. Until now, Enma fed on enormous Haki, but Zoro concluded that instead of limiting it, he should feed Enma his haki and own it. Use it as if it's as "light as a feather"

Big assumption to think I'm saying Enma has CoC.

I'm saying without Enma Zoro doesn't draw out his latent CoC within him. Therefore destroying the narrative Enma is not a PU and also the original argument which is Ashura itself is AdvCoC when nothing has shown it is.

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He still has the two other swords with him, hes not only using enma, again he is coating ALL swords with haki. This chapter is about Zoro proving he is worty of wielding enma of course the sword will be highlighted.

What you saying aint proff of shit.

Still using 2 other swords but neither of them are highlighted just before he uses CoC like Enma.

He's coating all swords because Enma has forced him to use more haki to the point it could kill him. Zoro is still a novice with CoC once he masters Enma he'll be able to use AdvCoC but to ignore the fact that Enma is the one drawing the large amounts of haki forcing Zoro to bloom in battle is just selective reading.

Therefore... the idea that the technique Ashura itself is a form of AdvCoC has no basis other than headcanon 'at this point'. Chapter 1010 was Enma forcing haki out of Zoro putting him in a do or die situation which was when he coated his blades which ultimately scarred Kaido it had nothing to do with Ashura itself from what we know factually.

 

[Shanal]

Big assumption to think I'm saying Enma has CoC.

I'm saying without Enma Zoro doesn't draw out his latent CoC within him. Therefore destroying the narrative Enma is not a PU and also the original argument which is Ashura itself is AdvCoC when nothing has shown it is.

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Still using 2 other swords but neither of them are highlighted just before he uses CoC like Enma.

He's coating all swords because Enma has forced him to use more haki to the point it could kill him. Zoro is still a novice with CoC once he masters Enma he'll be able to use AdvCoC but to ignore the fact that Enma is the one drawing the large amounts of haki forcing Zoro to bloom in battle is just selective reading.

Therefore... the idea that the technique Ashura itself is a form of AdvCoC has no basis other than headcanon 'at this point'. Chapter 1010 was Enma forcing haki out of Zoro putting him in a do or die situation which was when he coated his blades which ultimately scarred Kaido it had nothing to do with Ashura itself from what we know factually.

Enma is a PU as it acts like a catalyst and helps him channel, that's the gimmick derived from its personality.

Yet manifesting it and coating it is something Zoro can do by himself, as seen by other swords.

 

[Adamxero]

Enma is a PU as it acts like a catalyst and helps him channel, that's the gimmick derived from its personality.

Yet manifesting it and coating it is something Zoro can do by himself, as seen by other swords.

Agree with the top part.

I'd also agree kind of with the bottom part. He can coat all 3 but prior the Enma he couldn't do that. I'd be interested to know if he could consciously use AdvCoC without Enma until using this much haki becomes a normal for him.

My argument has never been Zoro can't use AdvCoC. It's been Enma is the sword that has drawn the latent CoC out of Zoro and that Ashura has nothing to do with AdvCoC.

 

[Shanal]

Agree with the top part.

I'd also agree kind of with the bottom part. He can coat all 3 but prior the Enma he couldn't do that. I'd be interested to know if he could consciously use AdvCoC without Enma until using this much haki becomes a normal for him.

My argument has never been Zoro can't use AdvCoC. It's been Enma is the sword that has drawn the latent CoC out of Zoro and that Ashura has nothing to do with AdvCoC.

I suppose in due time (likely by end of this fight) when he learns to wield Enma as if "it's as light as feather", he'd not need the catalyst specifically anymore (though it would make things easier, no doubt).

But yeah, I don't think Asura was ACoC. Just that Zoro unlocked his regular CoC in that desperate moment.

 

[Brendan Schaub]

What do you guys think? Will Zoro and Mihawk end up having the strongest CoC? I legitimately don't see any way for Luffy's willpower to overcome Zoro's at this point.

Just gonna leave this here

 

[Zowo]

Just gonna leave this here

sword god zoro>pk luffy

 

[Brendan Schaub]

sword god zoro>pk luffy

Pirate King stands atop all CoC users
:cheers:

 

[Zowo]

Pirate King stands atop all CoC users
:cheers:

sword god> :cheers: