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Well, it depends.
For example, kidd, even though he cannot mortally wound KAIDO, he can unbalance the kaido base and create an opening for others to attack.
LAW in the same way, and can help you with your ROOM.
So all of that is included and it impacts the fight, it's not 1x2 at the end of the day.
But Big Mom is there too and she is actively engaging. She even attacked Killer this chapter
 
Every single time a new chapter comes out you guys try to kill S and Z rivalry. I get it's Zoro fans greatest dream, but since Sanji is just being Sanji offpanel, couldn't you talk about Zoro's awesome feats?
Like cutting fire... again? Or being noticed by Kaido just because he is wielding Enma? Or doing what the scabbards except Kiku already did?

See, a lot to talk about while the emperors are basically standing launching useless elemental attack :kayneshrug:
 
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KAIDO D. STRONGER

Perhaps I am underrating Rayleigh.
He can probably give Kaido a high diff fight who knows.
I don't know, I know that if you do 1x2 between Kizaru and Old Rayleigh with Benn Beckman, Kizaru will lose a low difference.

And kaido well ... Until then, there was no average difference against him, even with someone greater than benn beckman according to you (zoro) and luffy> Rayleigh. And with the help of others (SNS), we can discard the intermediate (average) difference.
 
I don't know, I know that if you do 1x2 between Kizaru and Old Rayleigh with Benn Beckman, Kizaru will lose a low difference.

And kaido well ... Until then, there was no average difference against him, even with someone greater than benn beckman according to you (zoro) and luffy> Rayleigh. And with the help of others (SNS), we can discard the intermediate (average) difference.
As I said Ray > Luffy and Zoro > Beckman
 
They are, but they have different paths from Killer
- Drake has his own mission, that's why I put him on a different 'category' when compared to other SNs. His rank doesn't necessary indicates his strenght and I can see him fighting Commanders (personally), but as of now he has no business with Kaido since he took responsability for the Live Floor (which is still a big deal)
- Apoo and Hawkins, as much as I like them, have not the same guts of the 5 on the roof even if they are strong. Apoo was an informant from the start, he literally snitched Kidd Alliance so he'll not be accepted as an ally. Hawkins on the other hand trusted his cards only and decided to submit.
All of them can still go to the roof for different reasons but they'll still not be like the first 5.

Talking about why Killer is there: he sides with Kidd and, just like him, decided to fight till the end instead of submitting. He only '''''submitted'''' when Kidd life was blackmailed, and this makes him just a more valuable character (is really similar to what Zoro did for Luffy in Thriller Bark). He's also setting a 'parallelism' with Zoro seen their role in the crew (first mate and combatant) and their fight/interactions.
Killer presence fits perfectly and Oda builded it well, he'll surprise all of you even more in the future.
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If Killer haven't faught Zoro ya'll would have been calling him fodder right now
Stop trying to make him sound like this essential character he's not, he's there to only fill numbers, he's nothing more than Kidd's best subordinate
 
It is why I call post time skip rivalry a gag because both their feats have literally 0 parallel to one another
The Pacifista and the Kraken were direct paralels where both destroyed one, and then took out an arm of the Kraken each.

They also fought over who defeats more of the remaining 50k Fishmen after Luffy used CoC to take out the other half.

Then the crew got seaparated and Sanji missed out on most of Dressrosa while Zoro missed out of whole WCI.

In Wano Oda built them up as the two stand out Wanted men in the SH crew as Sangoro the Rebel and Zorojuro and Murderer.

I still think Zoro will defeat King and Sanji will defeat Queen in Wano, so there's also going to be that bit :kayneshrug:
 
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