Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

[mckengrie]

Zoro's Haki > Oden's Haki > Luffy's Haki

How?

 

[HA001]

Keep crying. Kaido tried to whack Luffy with his club.

you just got bodied

 

[SLC_Girl]

Dude what are you talking about red rock had adv haki...you can't compare current luffy to dressora luffy. Be real luffy was doing quite good in his base , flying is much better than ko in g4 form...

I'm talking about the Elephant Gun in Kuri, not Red Roc...
Battle Field Removal and KO are the same, the fight ends in both cases.
Kaido got hit for nearly a full chapter, Fujitora finished the fight in a few pages, Kaido couldn't even counter G3 Luffy while Luffy was comboing on him, Fuji did casually, the fight was basically done before Luffy even would even go G4 like he did on Kaido.

Oda draws character growth by adding new element/new naming theme to Luffy's techniques, or giving him new techniques, an Elephant Gun from Fishman Island is not going to change, compare to now.

 

[HA001]

Agreed but kaido and big mom also fight for 3 days plus haki is necessary to bypass logia inta.

big mom and kaido are hardly haki dependent are they

 

[Hades]

He made g4 because g2 is too weak and g3 too slow did you even read dressrosa ?
Even in the kata fight he had to leave the mirror world to survive. Dont forget that. Like i said g3 too slow g2 too weak.

no, no, no...you are not getting my point...why he let g2 or g3 remain weak?....with newly learnt haki, based on theory, it could make g2 and g3 far stronger....why he didn't even think about trying to solve timelimit problem? didn't he know he is consuming too much haki? why he didn't find a way to conserve his haki? at this point, he is not inexperienced rookie, he is someone with fighting experience and that cool down time happened not once but many times...this could have been the perfect time to work on that and yet the same old timelimit and someone has to save his ass again...

and for information, Kaido didn't let him hit, Kaido swung the club, Luffy dodged and hit Kaido in return...and even now Kaido hasn't bothered to defend himself, he is only attacking....

oh, btb I am talking about Luffy fight with Katakuri after merienda...he fought Katakuri for hrs with g2/g3 without losing haki and yet as soon as he goes g4, he loses in haki like after 20 minutes...

 

[Zolo]

Matter of time?
Zoro shits on Luffy and low diffs EoS Sanji.
Get real
EoS Sanji can't even dream of of pulling of current Zoro level of feats even if his power level is increased by 100000
Even in durability, Zoro showed he can tank an attack casually that Sanji's Raid Shit brothers can't tank so Zoro's raw durability >>> Sanji's raid shit durability

You just mad that Oda made Z=S , everyone exept you knows Luffy Law and Kid are way >>>> than S K Z

 

[HA001]

no, no, no...you are not getting my point...why he let g2 or g3 remain weak?....with newly learnt haki, based on theory, it could make g2 and g3 far stronger....why he didn't even think about trying to solve timelimit problem? didn't he know he is consuming too much haki? why he didn't find a way to conserve his haki? at this point, he is not inexperienced rookie, he is someone with fighting experience and that cool down time happened not once but many times...this could have been the perfect time to work on that and yet the same old timelimit and someone has to save his ass again...

and for information, Kaido didn't let him hit, Kaido swung the club, Luffy dodged and hit Kaido in return...and even now Kaido hasn't bothered to defend himself, he is only attacking....

oh, btb I am talking about Luffy fight with Katakuri after merienda...he fought Katakuri for hrs with g2/g3 without losing haki and yet as soon as he goes g4, he loses in haki like after 20 minutes...

see post above
kaido let him hit him

he did improve both forms by combining them to make g4 where he has the speed and power

but then he wasnt spamming haki just using it to block or hit
whereas g4 the haki is everywhere on him and constant

 

[ShishioIsBack]

You just mad that Oda made Z=S , everyone exept you knows Luffy Law and Kid are way >>>> than S K Z

wtf are you talking about?

Oda made? Zoro one shots 1 million Sanji's at this point
Saying Oda made Sanji = Zoro is as dumb (no dumber) than saying Oda made Luffy = Usopp.
If Oda actually thinks Sanji = Zoro then he is mentally retarded.

 

[Guymieux]

You just mad that Oda made Z=S , everyone exept you knows Luffy Law and Kid are way >>>> than S K Z

Stop trying to drag zoro down with Sanji . It’s seriously sad at this point . Why can’t you just be a Sanji fan without mentioning zoro

 

[ShishioIsBack]

How?

A) Zoro's Haki had massive Gol D Roger like Tendrils flames while Oden's Haki didn't have such because his Haki was not nearly as overwhelming
B) Zoro's Mid tier attack had Kaido scared shitless for his life and after effect of that attack had his Haki leaking (Same way as Gol D Roger), producing 5 KM long DC while Oden's Haki leak had no DC
C)Oden was unable to truly make Enma his own, make it black blade, something Zoro would do proving that rightful owner of Enma is Zoro and Oden was just holding on to it like Shanks was holding on to Straw hat

That makes Zoro's Haki > Oden's.

Zoro's Haki >> Luffy's?
Lmao Luffy pulling all the Haki out of his ass, even causing him to pass out for 10 minutes can't even tickle Zoro. Zoro with single flex without even using his signature Santoryu with Ryou had both Big Mom and Kaido scared for their lives.

Zoro's Haki = 100
Oden's Haki = 90
Luffy's Haki = 70

 

[sanjikun]

She shouts at kaido saying “Why are you letting him hit you?” to indicate shes surprised about Luffy? Huh? Explain this logic. Which part of this statement indicates shes addressing Luffy here?

Kaido lets people hit them ALL THE TIME. That's all he does. Why would she ask that question? You're making no fucking sense.

She's not shocked at him "letting him" hit. She's shocked that it rocked him.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Kaido lets people hit them ALL THE TIME. That's all he does. Why would she ask that question? You're making no fucking sense.

That goes to show you how insane Zoro actually is.
Kaido shat straight in his pants and dodged as fast as he could huffing and puffing.

Zoro no diffs Doffy

 

[Cinera]

Punk Gibson is stronger than 923 King Kong Gun or Kong Gatling? Get real.

I know you disagree, but I think Kong Gatling would have been as effective as Kong Organ. I wasn't including Boundman's King attacks.

 

[Gears Kaios]

Lol....................

 

[Fuckthis3]

OHHHHHHHHH

 

[MonsterKaido]

I'm talking about the Elephant Gun in Kuri, not Red Roc...
Battle Field Removal and KO are the same, the fight ends in both cases.
Kaido got hit for nearly a full chapter, Fujitora finished the fight in a few pages, Kaido couldn't even counter G3 Luffy while Luffy was comboing on him, Fuji did casually, the fight was basically done before Luffy even would even go G4 like he did on Kaido.

Oda draws character growth by adding new element/new naming theme to Luffy's techniques, or giving him new techniques, an Elephant Gun from Fishman Island is not going to change, compare to now.

Again you do realise kaido was drunk and in his dragon formG4 attacks didn't do anything to kaido common

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Lol....................

Zoro is bare minimum one trillion times more durable than EoS Sanji with 50 Raid Shits on him.

 

[SLC_Girl]

Again you do realise kaido was drunk and in his dragon formG4 attacks didn't do anything to kaido common

Again, Fujitora has no real intent to put Luffy down, nerfed mindset just like Kaido being drunk.
Kong Organ is like Pseudo G4, weaker than standard G4 attacks, it's like the Dual Python Doflamingo blocked, Kaido had to tank it with a serious face, anything around KG level can hurt Kaido, Big Mom had to block a KG in WCI.
KKG > Kong Gatling >= Leo Bazooka/Kong Rifle > Kong Gun/Rhino Schneider > Kong Organ/Dual Python.
Anything Kong Gun level or higher from Boundman is hurting Kaido.

I'm not saying Fuji is stronger than Kaido, just what Fuji did, was more impressive than what he was given credit for.

 

[Gears Kaios]

Good night and goodbye for a while.......I need this break

Take care all.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Again, Fujitora has no real intent to put Luffy down, nerfed mindset just like Kaido being drunk.
Kong Organ is like Pseudo G4, weaker than standard G4 attacks, it's like the Dual Python Doflamingo blocked, Kaido had to tank it with a serious face, anything around KG level can hurt Kaido, Big Mom had to block a KG in WCI.
KKG > Kong Gatling >= Leo Bazooka/Kong Rifle > Kong Gun/Rhino Schneider > Kong Organ/Dual Python.
Anything Kong Gun level or higher from Boundman is hurting Kaido.

I'm not saying Fuji is stronger than Kaido, just what Fuji did, was more impressive than what he was given credit for.

Ok then but kaido has better feats than fuji as of now:cheers: